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Price Drop of NAND Flash Products for 1Q22 Expected to Taper to 8-13% QoQ Decline, Says TrendForce

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NAND Flash prices for 1Q22 are expected to decline by 8-13% QoQ, compared to TrendForce's previous forecast of 10-15% QoQ, primarily due to PC OEMs' increased orders for PCIe 3.0 products and the impact of the lockdown in Xi'an on PC OEMs' price negotiation approaches. To mitigate potential risks in logistics, NAND Flash buyers are now more willing to accept a narrower decline in contract prices in order to obtain their products sooner. However, as the Xi'an lockdown has not noticeably affected the local fabs' manufacturing operations, the movement of NAND Flash contract prices going forward will likely remain relatively unaffected by the lockdown.

In addition, TrendForce finds that the daily number of new COVID-19 cases in Xi'an has recently undergone a noticeable drop, and the local government has also announced that that the emergency level has been downgraded. As such, Samsung's and Micron's local production facilities are returning to normal with respect to workforce and operational capacity. Samsung's local production base manufactures NAND Flash products, whereas Micron's local production base is responsible for the testing and packaging of DRAM chips as well as the assembly of DRAM modules. The impacts of the lockdown mainly relate to delays in the deliveries of memory products to customers. On the other hand, the event has not caused a tangible loss in memory production.





Lockdown in Xi'an has not caused a notable rise in NAND Flash spot prices because most spot buyers already carry a high level of inventory
Regarding NAND Flash spot prices, suppliers temporarily suspended quote offering immediately after the event due to concerns about the fallout. As a result, the general decline in NAND Flash spot prices has more or less come to a halt. However, there has been no accompanying signs of spot buyers rushing to procure more products, and the overall transaction volume remains fairly low. TrendForce's latest survey of the spot market finds that buyers still have plenty of stock on hand and are not in a hurry to procure NAND Flash products at the prices that are currently being offered.

Decline in client SSD and UFS prices for 1Q22 is expected to narrow
Regarding the contract prices of major NAND Flash products, their overall decline has been narrower than previously expected. For instance, despite the weakening demand for Chromebooks, notebook production on the whole has been improving as component gaps become gradually resolved, while demand for commercial notebooks also provides some upward momentum for the overall shipment of notebook computers. As a result, the QoQ decline in notebook shipment for 1Q22 has been narrower compared to prior first quarters. Furthermore, lower-than-expected shipment of Intel's latest Alder Lake CPUs, which support PCIe 4.0 interface, has led certain PC OEMs to ramp up their orders for PCIe 3.0 SSDs in order to meet their PC shipment targets for 1Q22. However, SSD suppliers have already begun gradually transitioning their material preparation to PCIe 4.0 SSD instead, thereby creating a gap between the supply and demand of PCIe 3.0 SSDs. As well, the Xi'an lockdown has prompted client SSD buyers to scramble to lock in their required delivery volumes. Taken together, these factors have lessened the decline in client SSD prices for 1Q22 from the previous 5-10% QoQ to 3-8% QoQ.

Regarding smartphones, not only has demand remained relatively sluggish, but smartphone brands are also still holding a relatively high level of eMMC/UFS inventory, meaning these brands are not particularly willing to negotiate prices for high volumes of mobile NAND Flash storage at the moment. On the other hand, thanks to increased orders from PC OEMs since November 2021, NAND Flash suppliers' inventory levels have fallen somewhat. Hence, the decline in mobile NAND Flash storage quotes has in turn narrowed slightly. Contract prices of UFS products are now expected to decrease by 5-10% QoQ in 1Q22 instead of 8-13% QoQ as previously expected. Finally, contract prices of server SSD and NAND Flash wafers are expected to decline by 3-8% QoQ and 10-15% QoQ, respectively, in 1Q22, in line with prior expectations.

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Well if were finally going to see cheap 8TB nvme with TLC Im happy :)
 

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I expect more like 20-30% drops on everything, hyperinflation is making majority poor as ****, and the markets will soon show this in lack of sales I bet over next 8 months or so.
 
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All the manufacturers need to do is to say that there is a shortage of so and so component, and the prices will be back up. Prices are certainly down, but they are still on the high side in my opinion. Any time you look for a SSD that is greater than 1TB, the price shoots up exponentially.
 

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All the manufacturers need to do is to say that there is a shortage of so and so component, and the prices will be back up. Prices are certainly down, but they are still on the high side in my opinion. Any time you look for a SSD that is greater than 1TB, the price shoots up exponentially.
I can pick up a PNY XLR8 CS3040 2TB PCIe 4.0 drive for ~US$216 locally. A WD Blue 2TB SATA drive would set me back ~US$252. A cheap brand 2TB SATA drive is ~US$108.
Maybe you need to find a better store to buy your kit at?
 
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I really wish there is 4TB ssd at lower price.Price have creep up on that segment. My 2TB ssd is pretty full now.
 

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wasnt there another article saying prices would be rising, not by trendforce, form some other company.
 
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I can pick up a PNY XLR8 CS3040 2TB PCIe 4.0 drive for ~US$216 locally. A WD Blue 2TB SATA drive would set me back ~US$252. A cheap brand 2TB SATA drive is ~US$108.
Maybe you need to find a better store to buy your kit at?
I got a WD blue sata 2TB before black friday cause I needed one, it cost me $230 CAD, during black friday it dropped to $200 CAD. Now it's about $290CAD on newegg.ca!!! Ya no thanks, keep your ssd.
 

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Sure I thought of that just that splitting programmed across 2 ssd is a hassle for backups images.
That's your biggest concern? Maybe try using something like Duplicati, it's free.

I got a WD blue sata 2TB before black friday cause I needed one, it cost me $230 CAD, during black friday it dropped to $200 CAD. Now it's about $290CAD on newegg.ca!!! Ya no thanks, keep your ssd.
The WD Blue is expensive here compared to other SATA drives and as I said, I can get a 2TB PCIe 4.0 drive for less.
 
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