Philips Launches Trio of Momentum 3000 Gaming Monitors

[TheLostSwede]

Philips is continuing its expansion into the gaming monitor market with no less than three new 27-inch, 1080p displays in the Momentum 3000 family. Common to all three models is adaptive sync, a 165 Hz refresh rate, a 4 ms response time and a 1 ms input lag. All three displays also feature two HDMI 2.0 ports, a DP 1.2 port, a 3.5 mm audio jack and a pair of integrated 5 W speakers.

The 27M1N3200VS and 27M1N3200VA sport a VA panel with a 250 cd/m² typical brightness and a 3000:1 contrast ratio. The 27M1N3200ZA on the other hand, gets an IPS panel with the same brightness, but a lower contrast ratio of 1100:1. The 27M1N3200VS has a fixed stand and is as such the cheapest model out of the three with an MSRP of €269, with the 27M1N3200VA coming in at a mere €10 more, at €279, with the added benefit of a height, pivot and swivel capable stand. Finally the 27M1N3200ZA will cost €309, also with the adjustable stand.



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[Dammeron]

310€ for 27" 165Hz IPS at 1080p resolution and no VESA mount (at least in the pics there's none)? For 40€ more I just got Gigabyte M32Q, which is better in every single way.

 

[TheLostSwede]

310€ for 27" 165Hz IPS at 1080p resolution and no VESA mount (at least in the pics there's none)? For 40€ more I just got Gigabyte M32Q, which is better in every single way.

The VESA mount is behind where the stand is connected. Remove the stand and they can be mounted.
Seems like the stand has an unusually large "cover" at the rear though.

 

[bug]

Any hint of VRR?

 

[TheLostSwede]

Any hint of VRR?

My bad, updated with adaptive sync.

 

[bug]

My bad, updated with adaptive sync.

It usually goes hand in hand with 165Hz, but at these prices, one has to wonder.

 

[TheLostSwede]

It usually goes hand in hand with 165Hz, but at these prices, one has to wonder.

It was not listed as a prominent feature, so I missed and didn't even think about it.

 

[mechtech]

Ahhh the stagnated monitor market.

DP 1.2, 1080p, etc. etc.

2009 called, said they had 120Hz 13 years ago. This should be default refresh rate now, not 60Hz, I guess the can use the 'gaming' moniker for anything above 60Hz since it's still around. Reminds me of the vga port, maybe they should add a vga port to the 1080p screen. Oh can I get a carb on my next vehicle please?

*disappointed monitor enthusiast*

 

[Prince Valiant]

Ahhh the stagnated monitor market.

DP 1.2, 1080p, etc. etc.

2009 called, said they had 120Hz 13 years ago. This should be default refresh rate now, not 60Hz, I guess the can use the 'gaming' moniker for anything above 60Hz since it's still around. Reminds me of the vga port, maybe they should add a vga port to the 1080p screen. Oh can I get a carb on my next vehicle please?

*disappointed monitor enthusiast*

Don't forget the same panel contrast for going on however many years we're up to now. Stop pinching pennies and deal with the glow? Nah, keep on skimping and charge more instead .

 

[kiriakost]

Philips this is 20 years dead, as brand name within EU.
Chinese using now the Logo, I have news for them, they should rebuild trust from ground zero.
My level of trust at anything branded as Philips today, this is also a big zero.

 

[Bomby569]

Philips this is 20 years dead, as brand name within EU.
Chinese using now the Logo, I have news for them, they should rebuild trust from ground zero.
My level of trust at anything branded as Philips today, this is also a big zero.

they will still fool a lot of people

 

[Chrispy_]

This isn't really a criticism of Philips, but citing a VA panel as having a 4ms response time is utterly useless.

Everyone wants to know ONE thing and one thing only; Can it do dark transitions without smearing? Realistically if it can get 90% of the way through a 0-20% transition in under two of it's 165Hz frames, then it's good enough and better than a majority of VA monitors on the market.

That is, of course, nowhere near 4ms, and closer to three times slower than that.

2009 called, said they had 120Hz 13 years ago. This should be default refresh rate noe

This. I'm not even sure why LCD panels settled on 75Hz as the default, either. It's such a random number that matches almost no common content without pulldown or judder.

120Hz works so well.

1. It's fast enough to be considered 'very smooth' for just about anyone.
2. It allows for flawless, judder-free frame-sync of 24fps, 30fps, 60fps - the three most common video framerates
3. At the budget end of the spectrum, even ancient HDMI 1.4 and displayport 1.2 controllers can handle 1080p120 without problems.
4. Most >60Hz devices like Games Consoles/HDMI receivers/Cameras will support 120Hz but not 90Hz, 100Hz, 144Hz or 165Hz.

 

[bug]

Ahhh the stagnated monitor market.

DP 1.2, 1080p, etc. etc.

2009 called, said they had 120Hz 13 years ago. This should be default refresh rate now, not 60Hz, I guess the can use the 'gaming' moniker for anything above 60Hz since it's still around. Reminds me of the vga port, maybe they should add a vga port to the 1080p screen. Oh can I get a carb on my next vehicle please?

*disappointed monitor enthusiast*

These are budget models. Not that it makes sense to put HDMI 2.1 or DP 1.4 on any monitor that doesn't need the bandwidth.

Philips this is 20 years dead, as brand name within EU.
Chinese using now the Logo, I have news for them, they should rebuild trust from ground zero.
My level of trust at anything branded as Philips today, this is also a big zero.

If you're referring to TP Vision, that only happened in 2011. So not 20 years dead. 20 years ago Philips Brilliance were all the rage, actually.
And it's not dead in the EU, you see their healthcare stuff everywhere.

 

[noel_fs]

you meant 1 ms response time and a 4 ms input lag

there is no monitor with 1 ms input lag

 

[kiriakost]

there is no monitor with 1 ms input lag

There is no Internet provider him also offering 1 ms ping lag from the Game servers.

Let's not forget whom leading the dance:
Samsung and LG = both from Korea.
EIZO = Japan

 

[chrcoluk]

For me 60hz or 120hz, should be standard, im not part of those silly every hz can get craze which lets face it has compromised image quality and damaged pc monitor industry, likewise the obsession with latency.

As has been said the importance here, is has black smear been fixed, are viewing angles better, contrast ratio, and important features like kvm, pip, detailed osd showing color compression, input ports etc.

Industry needs to stop focusing on fps. Every monitor review now focuses on it.

 

[bug]

For me 60hz or 120hz, should be standard, im not part of those silly every hz can get craze which lets face it has compromised image quality and damaged pc monitor industry, likewise the obsession with latency.

As has been said the importance here, is has black smear been fixed, are viewing angles better, contrast ratio, and important features like kvm, pip, detailed osd showing color compression, input ports etc.

Industry needs to stop focusing on fps. Every monitor review now focuses on it.

Well, these are gaming monitors, so they're about fps first and foremost. The other things you mention probably do not fit within the price tag.

 

[chrcoluk]

Well, these are gaming monitors, so they're about fps first and foremost. The other things you mention probably do not fit within the price tag.

Ad I said people seem to think gaming means FPS is all that matters, your post kind of confirmed that.

 

[bug]

Ad I said people seem to think gaming means FPS is all that matters, your post kind of confirmed that.

You may have said that sometime, somewhere, but in you previous post you said "Industry needs to stop focusing on fps. Every monitor review now focuses on it."

I agree that only some games are about high FPS, but even so, a gaming monitor that doesn't do 120Hz+ in 2022 doesn't make much sense.
Also, yes, high-refresh is a gimmick outside the minority of games that benefit from that, there are other more important things when it comes to image quality (like those that you posted).

 

[Fourstaff]

I have a Philips Momentum monitor. Extremely basic, but functional. People shopping for high performing screens should look elsewhere.