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Crucial to End Ballistix RAM Production and Sales

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The original BIOS the board came with was better, yes. But I updated it just because of SAM feature. I can see now it was a mistake, as i didn't saw any noticeable improvement with it (might be some games in the future though).
The problem is I don't have a power backup of any kind, and every BIOS flash is a huge risk (i think my mobo is already out of the warranty, and it was already replaced once due to the magnetic interference with onboard audio). I do need to buy a cheap UPS just for BIOS flashing purpose, and I will soon enough. I will post the results.
For now, I'll just drink that latency with a few ice cubes and a slice of a lemon.
Thanks for the help provided. It's highly appreciated.
I didn't mean to roll back that far, just to the one prior to what you're currently using.
BIOS updates are not really a risk these days, not had one gone wrong since pre Y2K.
Besides, you have an MCU on your board so even if the flash went wrong you could still reflash the BIOS as many times as it would take, from a USB drive.
 
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But they're killing the Ballistix brand, it doesn't make sense, as they still sell DDR4 branded Ballistix RAM.
They also have a ton of "regular" Crucial branded DDR5 memory for sale.
I also hate it. I have used Ballistix in tons of builds and it's was always extremely solid.
 
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I didn't mean to roll back that far, just to the one prior to what you're currently using.
BIOS updates are not really a risk these days, not had one gone wrong since pre Y2K.
Besides, you have an MCU on your board so even if the flash went wrong you could still reflash the BIOS as many times as it would take, from a USB drive.
I know, just wanted to share my thoughts. It just scares the hell out of me anyway. I'd still prefer Gigabyte's dual BIOS over any other safe method.
 

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I know, just wanted to share my thoughts. It just scares the hell out of me anyway. I'd still prefer Gigabyte's dual BIOS over any other safe method.
Well, even Gigabyte is phasing out dual BIOS. But now you can flash BIOS straight from a USB stick, most of the times without a CPU installed. So, if it goes south, you just put the original BIOS back onto the stick and flash that.

But I'm with you, I prefer proper dual-BIOS. And I'm about to give that up, I need a mobo for my AL and dual-BIOS is not an option anymore :(
 
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Hi,
If the bios chip was easy to replace it wouldn't be so bad evga does it this way.
But yes I do prefer dual bios on mother boards and gpu's :cool:
 
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guess they finally realised their shitty ics arent up to speed for this kind of market
b-die fan here? :D

32GB (2x16GB) 3200/3600Mhz.

These kits are on the QVL list:
3200Mhz 16-18-18-36

3600Mhz 16-18-18-36

G.Skill is too expensive here and the Kingston ram is not worth their price and I am done arguing with Gigabyte about RAM support to JEDEC specifications because they only support ram on their QVL list everything else doesn't matter that's what their support told me.
maybe it's time to get an MSI mobo which has EXCELLENT feature called "memory try it!" which will nearly 99% run any ram ez. SH*TABYTE is only for cheapo systems, their ram compatibility is worse than no-name china mobos.
 
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Managed to get better latency with the newest BIOS:
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Does anyone know how this affects the "lifetime warranty" of these RAM sticks? I have a bunch of them, and was asssuming if any of them went bad, I could send them back and get free replacements. I was assured via their customer service that this would be the case. Now.. if they are end of life.. how does that work? Is the warranty non existent, or would they be able to take other measures, for example store credit, or sending alternative RAM? Or maybe they have a bunch of older RAM stockpiled, refurbished etc?
 
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Does anyone know how this affects the "lifetime warranty" of these RAM sticks? I have a bunch of them, and was asssuming if any of them went bad, I could send them back and get free replacements. I was assured via their customer service that this would be the case. Now.. if they are end of life.. how does that work? Is the warranty non existent, or would they be able to take other measures, for example store credit, or sending alternative RAM? Or maybe they have a bunch of older RAM stockpiled, refurbished etc?
Honestly, 'lifetime warranty' is the best con ever devised.
 
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Does anyone know how this affects the "lifetime warranty" of these RAM sticks? I have a bunch of them, and was asssuming if any of them went bad, I could send them back and get free replacements. I was assured via their customer service that this would be the case. Now.. if they are end of life.. how does that work? Is the warranty non existent, or would they be able to take other measures, for example store credit, or sending alternative RAM? Or maybe they have a bunch of older RAM stockpiled, refurbished etc?

Should a replacement be offered (As zlobby alluded to, "lifetime" is a slippery term as relates to warranty), it'll be either refurb or as close a product as they have available.
 

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Does anyone know how this affects the "lifetime warranty" of these RAM sticks? I have a bunch of them, and was asssuming if any of them went bad, I could send them back and get free replacements. I was assured via their customer service that this would be the case. Now.. if they are end of life.. how does that work? Is the warranty non existent, or would they be able to take other measures, for example store credit, or sending alternative RAM? Or maybe they have a bunch of older RAM stockpiled, refurbished etc?
They simply point out why your lifetime is over. Problem solved.
 
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