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AMD Said to be Releasing no Less Than Four New Ryzen 5000-Series Chips in March

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According to yet another leak, it would appear that AMD is planning to release no less than four new CPUs in its Ryzen 5000-series this month, with the obvious headline product being the already announced Ryzen 7 5800X3D. However, details of a further three CPUs have turned up on Twitter and it looks like AMD is planning to go head to head with Intel, if the rumoured price brackets are indeed correct. The expected three new CPUs are the Ryzen 7 5700X, Ryzen 5 5600 and Ryzen 5 5500.

The Ryzen 7 5700X is as expected an eight core, 16 thread CPU that is said to be cheaper than an Intel Core i5-12600KF, which means an MSRP around the US$250-270 mark. The six core, twelve thread Ryzen 5 5600 on the other hand, is said to be cheaper than the Core i5-12400, so it should get a sub US$200 MSRP. Finally the six core, six thread Ryzen 5 5500, is said to land at the same price point as the Core i3-12100, pointing at a US$130 MSRP. Unfortunately, no indication of pricing for the Ryzen 7 5800X3D was given, but based on the fact that AMD seems to be dropping the pricing of its current Ryzen 5000-series of processors in the US market, it'll hopefully get a competitive price point.





Update Mar 8th: According to a post on Facebook by a computer shop called TechMovers in the Phillipines, we can except an additional two SKUs to what leaked this weekend. No actual specs were provided, but in addition to the Ryzen 5000-series chips mentioned originally, it looks like AMD is planning on adding a pair of 4000-series models as well. The two chips will be the Ryzen 5 4500 and the Ryzen 3 4100. These new chips might not even be based on the Zen 3 architecture, considering AMD put them in a series of their own, but as these new chips are expected to arrive later this month, the wait won't be too long until we find out what AMD has in store.

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I wondered where that 5700x was... there it is.

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Being cheaper than a 12400 isn't an easy task at all.
Being so much cheaper that the intimidating P core performance advantage will look pricey in comparison?

Well, godspeed, AMD
 
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Being cheaper than a 12400 isn't an easy task at all.
Being so much cheaper that the intimidating P core performance advantage will look pricey in comparison?

Well, godspeed, AMD

Woot, time to retire my 4790K...again!
 
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It's good to see AMD competing on the mid-low range again, even though their very low end part, at 6 cores/6 threads, makes me skeptical as to how well it will perform compared to the 12100. I'd rather have a 4C/8T CPU than a 6C/6T one.
 
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Well a 5950xt would have been more interesting
 
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Instead of lowering prices in every model, they create new models at lower prices, while keeping the prices of the original models higher than where the competition is forcing them.
 
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The strategy AMD is using, is that instead of immediately dropping the price to what they evaluate would be a competitive price point for their products based on the latest competition, they really milk it, using 1-2 big e/retailers (relevant for the market, trustworthy and capable of giving detailed sales statistics) per region, (in central Europe for example is Mindfactory) and they gradually lowering the price per week or so for the products that they are interested to move (have enough stock and the sales are not meeting the forecast/production they have) until they reach a satisfactory weekly sale target, so essentially they are doing whatever they can to sell their products at the highest possible price as long they can meet their sales forecast (and in the process they don't support their other partners with the same prices at the same time but with a delay) With the same attitude Intel for example could have easily priced (+$50) the 12400F at $217 and the 11600KF at $309 and the 12700KF at $434 and be perfectly competitive with AMD $299 5600X , $449 5800X and $549 5900X. Now (after a long gradual drop) they are selling in Mindfactory at 229€ the 5600X and at 329€ the 5800X, the 5900X didn't see anywhere near the same reduction (%) at 449€ since it already had much more competitive pricing and they also dropped at 599€ the 5950X. But it seems isn't enough to generate the volume they want, so in order to save face they don't lower even more the current products (maintaining a 50€ difference with the Intel competitive products, which is more or less the m/b difference btw) and they introducing new products to compete with Intel. if the prices are below or around 129/199/279 for 5500/5600/5700X then sure they will be competitive with Intel in a satisfactory way since taking account the motherboard cost they would have better performance/$ but make no mistake AMD done anything they could to prevent it!
 

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I am just wondering why still no real benchmarks have leaked. Allmost fishy.
 
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Kind of late at this point.
 
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Instead of lowering prices in every model, they create new models at lower prices, while keeping the prices of the original models higher than where the competition is forcing them.
How is that a problem though? We get cheaper and better product in the end anyways, right?
 
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A little too late, if you ask me.
 
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It's going to be aggressive price/performance competition for a few months. In addition to new releases, a new fresh new discounts on Zen 3 CPUs is taking hold in the US and Europe. It may take a day or two for all retailers to adjust their pricing. There has probably never been a better time to make last upgrades on Zen 3 for those who need one. Mindfactory and Overclockers lead the charge, not Amazon. Local retailers might have even better prices, such as Microcenter in-store $50 discount. And ebay often has even better deals.

5950X - $549 / €599 / £540
5900X - $399 / €449 / £399
5800X - $299 / €329 / £285
5600X - $210 / €229 / £199

5700G - $317 / €298 / £250
5600G - $238 / €209 / £195
This is currently the top 10 on pricespy and similar situation is elsewhere. There are no bad products, just bad pricing. Zen 3 pricing has got much, much better for those who need it.
 

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How is that a problem though? We get cheaper and better product in the end anyways, right?
I described a business decision, not a problem.
But, from a consumer perspective we could have these options much much earlier. Or if AMD wasn't coming out with these options, we could have the original models at the prices of the new lower models. From a consumer perspective we don't get the best option, we just have a few more options at lower prices.
 

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It's going to be aggressive price/performance competition for a few months. In addition to new releases, a new fresh new discounts on Zen 3 CPUs is taking hold in the US and Europe. It may take a day or two for all retailers to adjust their pricing. There has probably never been a better time to make last upgrades on Zen 3 for those who need one. Mindfactory and Overclockers lead the charge, not Amazon. Local retailers might have even better prices. And ebay often has even better deals.
5950X - $664 / €599 / £540
5900X - $449 / €449 / £399
5800X - $368 / €329 / £289
5600X - $227 / €229 / £199

5700G - $317 / €298 / £271
5600G - $238 / €209 / £199
This is currently the top 10 on pricespy and similar situation is elsewhere. There are no bad products, just bad pricing. Zen 3 pricing has got much, much better for those who need it.
I guess you didn't see the tweet above where Microcenter in the US has the 5600X for $189 and the 5800X for $249?
 
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I guess they really are milking the 5000 series for all it's worth. I like it. :D
 
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It's good to see AMD competing on the mid-low range again, even though their very low end part, at 6 cores/6 threads, makes me skeptical as to how well it will perform compared to the 12100. I'd rather have a 4C/8T CPU than a 6C/6T one.
Price and usage will make people go one way or the other. Do not forget that CPU-to-CPU comparison only is not appropriate because with Alder Lake, people need to buy entirely new platform and spend more, whereas with AMD, those who are on AM4 already simply need to buy one single componet - CPU.

Instead of lowering prices in every model, they create new models at lower prices, while keeping the prices of the original models higher than where the competition is forcing them.
Prices on all SKUs have been reduced. Good competition is always needed for price reduction. No company is a charity.
 
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I described a business decision, not a problem.
But, from a consumer perspective we could have these options much much earlier. Or if AMD wasn't coming out with these options, we could have the original models at the prices of the new lower models. From a consumer perspective we don't get the best option, we just have a few more options at lower prices.
It doesn't matter what we could have had. It matters what we actually have and are going to have.
 
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Well a 5950xt would have been more interesting
I don't think they want to release anything now that might overshadow the release of Zen 4 later this year.
 
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The strategy AMD is using, is that instead of immediately dropping the price to what they evaluate would be a competitive price point for their products based on the latest competition, they really milk it, using 1-2 big e/retailers (relevant for the market, trustworthy and capable of giving detailed sales statistics) per region, (in central Europe for example is Mindfactory) and they gradually lowering the price per week or so for the products that they are interested to move (have enough stock and the sales are not meeting the forecast/production they have) until they reach a satisfactory weekly sale target, so essentially they are doing whatever they can to sell their products at the highest possible price as long they can meet their sales forecast (and in the process they don't support their other partners with the same prices at the same time but with a delay) With the same attitude Intel for example could have easily priced (+$50) the 12400F at $217 and the 11600KF at $309 and the 12700KF at $434 and be perfectly competitive with AMD $299 5600X , $449 5800X and $549 5900X. Now (after a long gradual drop) they are selling in Mindfactory at 229€ the 5600X and at 329€ the 5800X, the 5900X didn't see anywhere near the same reduction (%) at 449€ since it already had much more competitive pricing and they also dropped at 599€ the 5950X. But it seems isn't enough to generate the volume they want, so in order to save face they don't lower even more the current products (maintaining a 50€ difference with the Intel competitive products, which is more or less the m/b difference btw) and they introducing new products to compete with Intel. if the prices are below or around 129/199/279 for 5500/5600/5700X then sure they will be competitive with Intel in a satisfactory way since taking account the motherboard cost they would have better performance/$ but make no mistake AMD done anything they could to prevent it!
Capitalism is based on milking premise, no? As companies are not charities, they would try to maximize profits.
 
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It doesn't matter what we could have had. It matters what we actually have and are going to have.
As a consumer I don't agree with that perspective. For me it does matter what I could have 6-12 months ago. An excuse to upgrade my 2700X.
 
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So 5700X is actually going to happen and I won't have to overpay for 8 cores? Yessssssss

Woot, time to retire my 4790K...again!
Heh ^^
 
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A little too late, if you ask me.
It's never too late on current gen of products. And, mind you, there are developed markets and developing markets on the planet. A small business in Brasil will see this price reduction as a wonderful opportunity to upgrade their PCs. Think widely, beyond your local market and conditions.

From a consumer perspective we don't get the best option, we just have a few more options at lower prices.
I am confused? If someone get a few more options, this could be the best option for them, no?

As a consumer I don't agree with that perspective. For me it does matter what I could have 6-12 months ago. An excuse to upgrade my 2700X.
If you do not like current discounted offers or past prices on Zen 3 CPUs, that's fine. We are here to hear your pain.
You can also save some money, wait a few months and buy AM5 platform. Simple.
 
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