Intel Plans May-June 2022 Launches of Arc "Alchemist" Desktop Graphics Cards

[btarunr]

Intel is reportedly targeting early-Summer (May-June) for the launch of its ambitious attempt at AAA gaming graphics cards for desktops, the Arc "Alchemist" series, based on the Xe-HPG graphics architecture, according to a report by Igor's Lab. Product launches are expected anywhere between May 2 and June 1, so one could expect some market availability within Summer. The Arc "Alchemist" series is designed to be sold through a handful board partners Intel already has strong industry relations with. The Arc "Alchemist" lineup will initially target four market segments, including the performance segment, meant for maxed out AAA gaming, with XeSS possibly even enabling 4K Ultra HD gameplay. Intel's entry to the gaming graphics space is expected to introduce an element of competitive pressure against both NVIDIA and AMD, as the company has the financial muscle to keep investing in this market if it tastes success with "Alchemist."



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[qwerty_lesh]

So by 'board partners' does this mean AIBs like Asus, Gigabyte, EVGA etc? I hope so, otherwise if its through obscure OEI bundles and other channels, Im doubtful think they will break out in the market like they hope to

 

[Chaitanya]

So by 'board partners' does this mean AIBs like Asus, Gigabyte, EVGA etc? I hope so, otherwise if its through obscure OEI bundles and other channels, Im doubtful think they will break out in the market like they hope to

Dont expect EVGA and equivalent from XFX/Sapphire/Powercolour as they are exclusive AIB makers for nvidia and AMD respectively.

 

[watzupken]

At the rate that the release keeps delaying by a month or 2 each time, their GPU may end up releasing alongside the next gen GPUs from AMD and Nvidia. If the GPU supply continues to improve along with pricing, chances is that the release will be a failure, especially if the driver is not stable.

 

[chstamos]

At the rate that the release keeps delaying by a month or 2 each time, their GPU may end up releasing alongside the next gen GPUs from AMD and Nvidia. If the GPU supply continues to improve along with pricing, chances is that the release will be a failure, especially if the driver is not stable.

Indeed. They've royally screwed up a one-in-a-lifetime opportunity, with failing to release anything at all during the GPU draught. They may be successful yet, but it won't be nearly as easy as it would have been if they released anytime during the multiple deadlines they have missed... and missed.

Even now, they're seeming to slip past the latest Q2 deadline, yet again.

It's not all bad, though. Maybe they'll come so late to the party that they will have no other option but to price quite competitively.

Let's just hope Arc 1 is intel's Xbox 1, let's say, rather than their Apple Pippin.

 

[thelawnet]

At the rate that the release keeps delaying by a month or 2 each time, their GPU may end up releasing alongside the next gen GPUs from AMD and Nvidia. If the GPU supply continues to improve along with pricing, chances is that the release will be a failure, especially if the driver is not stable.

The 6500 xt is a $100 card at $260, and the 3050 a $180 card at $390.


Even if next gen doubles the current terrible price/performance ratios, there is still plenty of room for Intel to sell gpus, especially with the crypto mafia hacking Nvidia to show that criminals are so desperate for cards to feed their mining activities that literally even if these cards are terrible for gaming, then if Intel turns off the crypto limiter, or doesn't have one, they can sell 100% of the cards to miners without even needing to care about gamers.

 

[Bwaze]

At the rate that the release keeps delaying by a month or 2 each time, their GPU may end up releasing alongside the next gen GPUs from AMD and Nvidia. If the GPU supply continues to improve along with pricing, chances is that the release will be a failure, especially if the driver is not stable.

I fully ecpect that the first generation of Intel discrete cards won't even see a wide release. They will use it as a testbed for drivers, sort of beta testing for the next generation. But they will name some ultra-low end discrete card which has more in common with iGPU an "Arc" product, sell it in pre-assembled OEM systems and then state they have achieved their target and reached high market share.

 

[Cutechri]

Indeed. They've royally screwed up a one-in-a-lifetime opportunity, with failing to release anything at all during the GPU draught.

Mhm. If AMD can sell out the garbage that is the 6500 XT, so can Intel sell out pretty much all of the GPUs they release.

 

[P4-630]

Intel is reportedly targeting early-Summer (May-June) for the launch

I thought they said April 2022....

Oh Intel...

 

[Luminescent]

Excited for this but for the wrong reasons
With 3 players on the market and after many people got conned by youtube influencers and hype to "invest" in mining, the market will be flooded with cheap and unwanted graphics card.
The bug is over, energy prices are increasing every month in some parts of the world ( war/russia ) , GPU interest will be equivalent to soundcards or network cards interest.
DO NOT BUY ANY GPU! they will be dirt cheap in a year.

 

[ShurikN]

I thought they said April 2022....

Well yeah, April 1st.

 

[Bomby569]

i bet the delays are cause by drivers, not harware

 

[watzupken]

The 6500 xt is a $100 card at $260, and the 3050 a $180 card at $390.


Even if next gen doubles the current terrible price/performance ratios, there is still plenty of room for Intel to sell gpus, especially with the crypto mafia hacking Nvidia to show that criminals are so desperate for cards to feed their mining activities that literally even if these cards are terrible for gaming, then if Intel turns off the crypto limiter, or doesn't have one, they can sell 100% of the cards to miners without even needing to care about gamers.

I feel you are too optimistic about pricing from Intel. While I acknowledge that it is not impossible that they may try and undercut competition by offering the GPUs are a lower price, since they are trying to break into the market, however this is likely at the mercy of their AIB partners, which are essentially the same ones that produces Nvidia and AMD cards. So personally, I don’t feel that the outcome is going to be any different.

i bet the delays are cause by drivers, not harware

This is highly possible, but will not be something Intel can resolve in the next 2 months. It took Nvidia and AMD a very long time to get the drivers to the current state. Not that they are perfect, but it does show that software is a not a trivial hurdle/ obstacle.

 

[trsttte]

Snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory

 

[HwGeek]

At this rate IDK what will come first: Intel GPU or WW3? ;-)

 

[docnorth]

Let's hope it will be worth the delay++++.

 

[Hyderz]

i bet the delays are cause by drivers, not harware

yeah the truck drivers

 

[TechLurker]

The 6500 xt is a $100 card at $260, and the 3050 a $180 card at $390.


Even if next gen doubles the current terrible price/performance ratios, there is still plenty of room for Intel to sell gpus, especially with the crypto mafia hacking Nvidia to show that criminals are so desperate for cards to feed their mining activities that literally even if these cards are terrible for gaming, then if Intel turns off the crypto limiter, or doesn't have one, they can sell 100% of the cards to miners without even needing to care about gamers.

Intel is unlikely to sell at old, pre-pandemic pricing equivalents. A bit cheaper than the competition? Sure. But they sure as hell won't sell so low considering their GPUs are also tied up in TSMC's manufacturing, competing with AMD and NVIDIA.

We'll be lucky if at least AMD responds and tweaks pricing, since NVIDIA commands high brand loyalty and much of the GPU space despite Radeon 6000 series being extremely competitive this time around, and very rarely does NVIDIA ever cut their prices on models outside of global shifts in demand. If anything, NVIDIA is just more likely to flood the market with new sub-models that match price but has slightly better performance, like they've done the last few years with Ti/SUPER in-between models rather than lowering pricing.

 

[HisDivineOrder]

At first, the problem was the shortages. Then the pricing went out of whack. Now that the shortages are mostly dealt with, the pricing remains out of whack. Why? AIB's mostly. They've never earned as much money per GPU as they are today and they are NOT going to want to give that up.

Going to those same AIB's and expecting better pricing? Nah. Asus gonna Asus. If you complain, they'll laugh and say, "Haha, tariffs, haha."

 

[P4-630]

At first, the problem was the shortages. Then the pricing went out of whack. Now that the shortages are mostly dealt with, the pricing remains out of whack. Why? AIB's mostly. They've never earned as much money per GPU as they are today and they are NOT going to want to give that up.

Going to those same AIB's and expecting better pricing? Nah. Asus gonna Asus. If you complain, they'll laugh and say, "Haha, tariffs, haha."

The most stupid is people just buy these overpriced GPU's......

 

[wheresmycar]

Looking at the specs in the table above, are these ARCs expected to compete with the likes of 3060TI / 6700 XT? I haven't really followed the news on intel GPUs hence just want to know how these cards will measure up against Nvidias and AMDs mid-tier range or their best.

Hope it's healthy competition without software/driver hiccups.

 

[P4-630]

Looking at the specs in the table above, are these ARCs expected to compete with the likes of 3060TI / 6700 XT? I haven't really followed the news on intel GPUs hence just want to know how these cards will measure up against Nvidias and AMDs mid-tier range or their best.

Hope it's healthy competition without software/driver hiccups.

A while ago I was reading somewhere that at least one should compete with a 3070(ti)

 

[Testsubject01]

At the rate that the release keeps delaying by a month or 2 each time, their GPU may end up releasing alongside the next gen GPUs from AMD and Nvidia. If the GPU supply continues to improve along with pricing, chances is that the release will be a failure, especially if the driver is not stable.

Nah! Seems very likely, that NVIDIA / AMD will charge premium this time around again or not release an MSRP at all.
Unfortunately, the past 4 years showed them that they just “left tons of money on the table with being in line of pre-2018 pricing”.
Production issues, supply issues, transport issues, Corona pandemic, Crypto mining, scalping, “Inflation”, War in Ukraine, Entry level cards (100-150$) starting at 250-350$ respectively.

If the ARC-Alchimist lineup and its drivers are somewhat able to play current games at 1080p/1440p with around 60 FPS, they will sell cards if priced slightly cheaper.

 

[Minus Infinity]

The 6500 xt is a $100 card at $260, and the 3050 a $180 card at $390.


Even if next gen doubles the current terrible price/performance ratios, there is still plenty of room for Intel to sell gpus, especially with the crypto mafia hacking Nvidia to show that criminals are so desperate for cards to feed their mining activities that literally even if these cards are terrible for gaming, then if Intel turns off the crypto limiter, or doesn't have one, they can sell 100% of the cards to miners without even needing to care about gamers.

Alas the next gen cards will double performance it seems, but costs will increase a lot according to sources. I think this is wht Nvidia will continue making Ampere. People are going to freak when they see a 4070 at $899, 4080 at $1499 and 4090 at $2099. AMD is said to probably increase price of 7900XT to $1599 too.

 

[timta2]

Alas the next gen cards will double performance it seems, but costs will increase a lot according to sources. I think this is wht Nvidia will continue making Ampere. People are going to freak when they see a 4070 at $899, 4080 at $1499 and 4090 at $2099. AMD is said to probably increase price of 7900XT to $1599 too.

I wouldn't bother listening to those rumors. That would be a hard sell to gamers, considering the current (and future?) lack of good AAA games that anyone is interested in. And when cryptocurrency gets revealed to be the scam it is and interest dies off, Nvidia is in trouble.