Game-Changing Material Lets Lithium-ion Batteries Keep Almost Full Charge-Capacity for up to 5 years

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Agreed. However the reason I compared it to cancer is because big pharma will never want to fully cure it. There is too much money to be made. The same can be said for batteries. "Big Battery" ( ) arent going to want batteries (especially rechargeable) to last for years without replacement. Thats why I compared the two. Theres not enough money to be made there.

Still a poor comparison. There isn't one cancer to cure, cancer in each organ is like a disease on its own. That's what makes it hard to cure (among other things).
Batteries... we simply don't control electricity as well as we'd like. We don't know how. The way we store energy today may very well look to someone 200 years in the future like surgeons 200 years ago that amputated limbs because they couldn't address the infection at source.

 

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So not actually game changing, just holding charge for 3-4 times longer.

Like someone above said, we're not short of lab innovations. Wake me up when any of these make their way into consumer products.

It also improves the maximum rated power for a Li Ion from 65% of potential to 95% of potential. That's huge, your say, 3000mAh battery is now more like 4000mAh.

 

[bobbybluz]

As a cancer patient it's my opinion curing cancer and batteries have little if anything in common. I was diagnosed in December of 2017 and began radiation treatment immediately. It'd already begun to metastases so radiation had to be done in more than one area. After that came extremely expensive injections every 90 days ($9,400 just for the drug alone each time). I had the last injection January 27th of 2020. Everything was looking great when I last saw my main cancer doctor last November. Two months ago odd symptoms developed and more tests were done one month ago. The results weren't good. I have to go in for a more thorough round of tests at the end of next month including another bone scan and MRI as well as a new test specific to the cancer I have. Saying "Big Pharma" doesn't want to find a cure is absolutely ridiculous and highly offensive to all involved in the battle against cancer.

I'm elderly and have lived a very full life to this point. It's heartbreaking to be sitting in the waiting room of the cancer lab at the hospital and see young children in far worse condition than I am. They haven't even begun to live their lives and many likely won't get to. Cures for cancer aren't akin to making electrical devices last longer, they're about eradicating a highly debilitating and often fatal disease. This is very personal to me. My birthday is in three days and potentially could be my last one ever. Never equate human life with man-made devices that are trivial in the giant scope of things. I apologize for the rant to those that are also going through what I am because you already know. I'm not in a very good mood at the moment because my biggest cheerleader in this struggle died suddenly Saturday morning at 73.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

As a cancer patient it's my opinion curing cancer and batteries have little if anything in common. I was diagnosed in December of 2017 and began radiation treatment immediately. It'd already begun to metastases so radiation had to be done in more than one area. After that came extremely expensive injections every 90 days ($9,400 just for the drug alone each time). I had the last injection January 27th of 2020. Everything was looking great when I last saw my main cancer doctor last November. Two months ago odd symptoms developed and more tests were done one month ago. The results weren't good. I have to go in for a more thorough round of tests at the end of next month including another bone scan and MRI as well as a new test specific to the cancer I have. Saying "Big Pharma" doesn't want to find a cure is absolutely ridiculous and highly offensive to all involved in the battle against cancer.

I'm elderly and have lived a very full life to this point. It's heartbreaking to be sitting in the waiting room of the cancer lab at the hospital and see young children in far worse condition than I am. They haven't even begun to live their lives and many likely won't get to. Cures for cancer aren't akin to making electrical devices last longer, they're about eradicating a highly debilitating and often fatal disease. This is very personal to me. My birthday is in three days and potentially could be my last one ever. Never equate human life with man-made devices that are trivial in the giant scope of things. I apologize for the rant to those that are also going through what I am because you already know. I'm not in a very good mood at the moment because my biggest cheerleader in this struggle died suddenly Saturday morning at 73.

My partners mother died horribly in front of my partner from bowel cancer. I am really sorry about your illness, but will not change my opinion. I really wish there was a cure for cancer, i wish someone would find it and release it for free on the internet so there's no way it could be sat on, or become only available to the rich. I stand by my opinion, there are millions of jobs depend on the cancer "cure" industry. If the cure was a simple pill or injection, they would all lose their jobs all them businesses would close, the whole industry would collapse. Same as i think the petrochemical industry has sat on stuff to keep people buying their muck for so long, i believe the same would happen with a cure. As i said how many years and so many billions, and how much closer are they to a cure? not where near imo. I understand the heartbreak and pain of cancer but i also understand how shitty and money grabbing this world is which is unfortunate but not going to change in my lifetime, maybe someday. Big business and money is more important than saving lives.

Keep well Bobby

 

[LabRat 891]

There are at least four battery technologies I've ran across over the past 5 years that use cheap materials, are highly recyclable, and perform much better or similarly (in various aspects) to Li-Ion tech today. There are also at least 2 battery technologies that are immensely superior to Li-Ion, but use(d) Silver instead of Nickel. (I haven't found anything on them other than NASA and DoD grants for Satellite and Ocean Buoy development in the late 90s and mid-00s.)
There's clearly *A LOT* more to getting battery tech to market than just R&Ding a better battery that's easy and cheap to manufacture.

Precisely because this isn't revolutionary and appears compatible with existing manufacturing, I'm hoping we'll actually see this come to market.

 

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There are at least four battery technologies I've ran across over the past 5 years that use cheap materials, are highly recyclable, and perform much better or similarly (in various aspects) to Li-Ion tech today. There are also at least 2 battery technologies that are immensely superior to Li-Ion, but use(d) Silver instead of Nickel. (I haven't found anything on them other than NASA and DoD grants for Satellite and Ocean Buoy development in the late 90s and mid-00s.)
There's clearly *A LOT* more to getting battery tech to market than just R&Ding a better battery that's easy and cheap to manufacture.

Precisely because this isn't revolutionary and appears compatible with existing manufacturing, I'm hoping we'll actually see this come to market.

Depends on how much the new polymer adds to the cost, but I otherwise agree.

 

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I guess the other consideration is how recyclable is it?

 

[Chrispy_]

Okay, this is actually really big news but I'm not holding my breath.

Battery tech is the future of renewable energy and sustainable transport without fossil fuels, but like fusion power, major advances like this are announced frequently and rarely are they in commercially-viable state. I'm still yet to see the magical graphene battery advancements everyone was frothing over in 2018.