NVIDIA: Gamers Spend $300 More on Ampere GPUs Than Previous Generations

[ModEl4]

So ASP went from something like $350 to $650?
F**k that, be patient and keep the existing old VGA or if it's slower than a RX 580 just buy a Xbox Series X instead. (by 2024 probably we would have a series Z / PS5 Pro with +30-40% 6900XT performance. jk but not really )

 

[looniam]

ha ha nvidia, jokes on you, i spent $300 less. $650/980ti - $350/3060

 

[80-watt Hamster]

So ASP went from something like $350 to $650?
F**k that, be patient and keep the existing old VGA or if it's slower than a RX 580 just buy a Xbox Series X instead. (by 2024 probably we would have a series Z / PS5 Pro with +30-40% 6900XT performance. jk but not really )

I've moved my personal cap on graphics cost from $200 to $250, but it still looks like I'll be continuing to wait until something that counts as a meaningful upgrade will cost that much, used or new.

 

[ModEl4]

I've moved my personal cap on graphics cost from $200 to $250, but it still looks like I'll be continuing to wait until something that counts as a meaningful upgrade will cost that much, used or new.

I'm really hoping that by the end of Q2 2023 we would have AD107 from Nvidia (i haven't heard anything new in this price range from AMD - RDNA3 based i mean) imo in the best case scenario we would have at $199 a cut down AD107 RX6600 contender (same QHD perf) [+15% perf for $249 part] and at the worst scenario at $229 a cut down AD107 RTX2060 contender (-5% QHD perf) [+20% perf for the $279 part]
The problem is not the SRPs but that there's good chance that by that time we would have inflation again (assuming prices hit near SRPs by end of next Q)
What do you have now?

 

[thegnome]

I wonder why... Oh you went from people buying easily stocked, sometimes under msrp 1060's that were under 250$ to today market with a 700-800$ mid range which most people (the people that buy at the crazy prices) buy.

Seriously, imagine if this **** never happend and we had a 200$ Ampere card which everyone buys, giving 2070-2080 performance, just like with the Pascal cards. That's how I predicted the gpu future, very bright, only to get ripped off by a market crash, miners, scalpers, etc.

 

[80-watt Hamster]

I'm really hoping that by the end of Q2 2023 we would have AD107 from Nvidia (i haven't heard anything new in this price range from AMD - RDNA3 based i mean) imo in the best case scenario we would have at $199 a cut down AD107 RX6600 contender (same QHD perf) [+15% perf for $249 part] and at the worst scenario at $229 a cut down AD107 RTX2060 contender (-5% QHD perf) [+20% perf for the $279 part]
The problem is not the SRPs but that there's good chance that by that time we would have inflation again (assuming prices hit near SRPs by end of next Q)
What do you have now?

RX 470 and a "borrowed" 1060.

 

[eidairaman1]

Yeah because of miners, scalpers and blindness.

I've moved my personal cap on graphics cost from $200 to $250, but it still looks like I'll be continuing to wait until something that counts as a meaningful upgrade will cost that much, used or new.

I may just find a 290 X VaporX 8G or a 390/390X...

 

[Steevo]

Replace gamers with miners and you have it all put together, remove miners from the equation and watch their boom fall flat and hardware prices return to reasonable.

 

[Minus Infinity]

No one forced them to update to egregious rip-offs. Nvidia and AMD will charge what stupid people willing to pay just to play games. No Ampere in my house or RDNA1 or 2.

 

[droopyRO]

stupid people willing to pay just to play games.

I don't see how people can spend thousand of $$$ just to go on a vacation, or go to a casino or to buy expensive clothes. That doesn't mean i see them as stupid.

 

[mechtech]

Got my 30 series.. will pass on 40 series if rumours are true. Should just pass anyways out of spite.

Kind of like when I said don’t buy GPUs 2 years ago and everyone rushed out and blew a scalper to get one.

Not this kid. Might use this card until driver support ends

 

[NeuralNexus]

Because the damn miners and scalpers causing the prices to be inflated. GAMERS don't WANT to pay more than MSRP for a graphics card. This is their excuse to prepare gamers to pay through the nose for the next-gen GPUs.

 

[ModEl4]

RX 470 and a "borrowed" 1060.

For me I wouldn't consider anything less than 8GB regarding memory and regarding performance at least double (RTX 2060, OC RX5600XT, GTX 1080) to call it a meaningful upgrade, cards like 290X don't make sense at all, same memory (4GB), older tech, only 15% faster at 1080p (up to 30% at 4K), worst polygon and especially tesselation performance, worst encode/decode engine, +200W TDP etc.
I guess you'll have to wait until 2023 that we'll have new models in this price category

 

[R-T-B]

Replace gamers with miners and you have it all put together, remove miners from the equation and watch their boom fall flat and hardware prices return to reasonable.

Not really that simple at all. That's a fantasy.

 

[kapone32]

This is interesting considering Gamers could not buy these cards in large numbers and there were plenty of Instagram posts of farms with 100+ GPUs of cards that you could not find in retail, online or brick and mortar until at least Q4.

 

[lemoncarbonate]

most people i know either couldn't get an ampere or refused to pay the inflated prices for one either direct or scalped. How does nvidia know that "gamers" were paying the extra cost and not miners?

Yes, I refuse to pay the inflated price. Here, getting a used or new graphic card with normal price is literally impossible. I prefer quit gaming, just watch walkthrough from youtube, or play old games instead rather than paying that much for a mere graphic card. I'm staying with my current card until everything is back to normal, or just not upgrading at all.

 

[watzupken]

300 bucks more? I am not sure if Nvidia is getting that stats correctly. When you consider people have purchased their Ampere cards from scalpers for absurd amount of money, and the equally absurd mark up by Nvidia’s AIB, it is definitely not just 300 bucks even if we were to look at average. The mid/lower tier RTX 3060 was selling for more than 100% mark up From the MSRP for quite some time.

 

[Flyordie]

most people i know either couldn't get an ampere or refused to pay the inflated prices for one either direct or scalped. How does nvidia know that "gamers" were paying the extra cost and not miners?

100%. I am holding onto my Vega64 purely because of prices.

They really don't know. They just know a GPU was purchased unless they sold direct to a mining outfit.

 

[Slizzo]

And with these comments Nvidia can yet again kiss my arse, they're effectively trolling gamer's while presenting a Gtc that was pure AI bullshit( from again a gamer's POV) pure ass.

.....

You know that, historically, GTC has never been about gaming cards. Always was targeted at data center and scientific pursuits.

 

[Solid State Soul ( SSS )]

What a weird thing to highlight, as if they're saying you were willing to pay more money, so therefore, we are raising prices.

 

[mama]

Remember people. When the miners abandon Nvidia, and they will when it becomes utterly unprofitable, screw Nvidia for all their worth. Make them happy that you pay them a pittance for their products.

 

[JB_Gamer]

What about Nvidia and Russia? Amd and Intel will not deliver products, what about Nvidia?

 

[stimpy88]

Don't worry, I'm sure nGreedia will up the MSRP by that "for the gamers".

 

[Blaylock]

Is this really true, given most buyers of the 30xx cards are miners and not gamers! Seem they are missleading their invetsors?

Do you have a source for this? I haven't seen any real studies.

 

[Deleted member 177333]

Suckas

Yep.

I could comfortably buy a 3090 right now and I'd love to hav eone, but I won't pay those ridiculous prices. One of the reasons I have a big bank account are because I know when something is worth purchasing and when it's not, and the Ampere cards are priced way above their performance value.

I am getting very comfortable with the 2nd hand market on ebay for GPUs, mainboards, CPUs, etc. Gullible or undisciplined people can eat that over-inflated pricing, and I will just be patient and eventually pick something up reasonably priced. Got my 2080 Ti off of ebay with a pre-installed waterblock for $701 a year and a half ago. Just takes some patience.