AMD Clarifies Ryzen 7000 "Zen 4" TDP and Power Limits: 170W TDP, 230W PPT

[Mussels]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again:

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Yeah the difference is one company lies about it, the other is honest.
It's the lying and falsifying numbers thats the issue.


This is just saying the max values for OCers and future CPU's, not that any of the regular chips will actually reach it.

 

[Sabotaged_Enigma]

AVX-512 really? Don't want to see higher power draw...
I can feel this whole platform will cost a heck of a lot.

 

[Mussels]

AVX-512 really? Don't want to see higher power draw...
I can feel this whole platform will cost a heck of a lot.

For X670-E, sure will... but that's why they seperated the chipsets.

As a cost-cutting (that actually gets passed to consumers) PCI-E 5.0 for the NVME and CPU->chipset link is all that will matter for quite some time to come.

 

[trsttte]

Yeah from the sound of it it's meant for diagnosing the pc or at most basic web browsing. I doubt even including the IO chipset it consumes more than 15w.

It's the same as Intel iGP, it allows you to use the computer for whatever you want that doesn't depend on accelerated graphics - browsing, multiple screens, etc.

 

[Punkenjoy]

Well why leaving performance on the table if most people do not care and your competitor is doing it. The thing is it's not sure if adding more power to Zen4 core will lead to much higher performance. On the other side, it will clearly lead to less aggressive binning for the 12 and 16 cores (That had to run at higher clock while using the same power as the 8 core chip).

It could lead to cheaper pricing on higher SKU. Doing the 16 core parts was already hard for AMD. They had to use the same amount of power than the 8 core parts but also get higher clock. That was not an easy limitation to go around.

And most people just tried to push PBO to the max to get the best auto OC anyway.

They also plan to reuse the chipset for many generation and it's not impossible that we will see higher core count in the future.

In the end i think they are just taking the same headroom as intel. Why not,

 

[mechtech]

sorry

couldn't help it

 

[progste]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again:

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Sounds like copium, AMD has a huge power advantage on intel with the same performance.
No AM4 chips get even close to 200W stock and AM5 looks to be no different, with 230W only there as overclocking headroom, as opposed to selling a factory-overclocked CPU that draws 300W and requires a top of the line cooler just to run normally.

 

[NDown]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again:

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Damn right XD, a real interesting stuff to see i can see it miles awaayy

 

[Punkenjoy]

If you go beyond fanboyism, there is no acceptation from the public to use more power to end up losing. But we seen that if a card or a CPU barely win, the power consumption become irrelevant.

AMD Bulldozer architecture was blamed to consume more while loosing. But for Alder Lake, people do not care that much about the power usage since it's winning. They cared about it on Rocket Lake since it was not enough.

People vote with their money and they voted that power consumption do not matter if you have a slight advantage vs your opponent.