Thermal Grizzly Announces Contact Frame For Intel Alder Lake, Promises to Reduce Temperatures by up to 10º

[phanbuey]

I have mine loosened as well, it really does help.

 

[ir_cow]

I got an Aorus Master incoming tomorrow, hope I won't have this issue with my NH-U12A on this board.

I didn't* with the Master I reviewed, though I was using a EK block.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Might try loosening my block screws a tad just to see. Seems interesting this, but i have the really thick EK backplate on mine, which i think does a good job. Changed from a EK block to heatkiller, and just kept the thick EK backplate on with the heatkiller block.

 

[Garrus]

Temps look fine @ stock , I won't be OC'ing my i7 12700K for a while, I have to cool it with a NH-U12A.

12700k + U12A, that's what I have too. I can overclock it fine, the higher clocks don't add much power draw, you just go as high as you can with reasonable voltage. That's one reason I prefer the 12700K to the 12900K. I gather all 3 of us went Noctua because of the easy adapter availability at launch?

 

[mechtech]

I can guarantee cpu temp drops by 30C...........if you leave your pc outside overnight in Timmins in January when it's -30C

 

[freeagent]

I can guarantee cpu temp drops by 30C...........if you leave your pc outside overnight in Timmins in January when it's -30C

My Dad is from South Porcupine, I got tubes in my ears when I was little from the hospital I could see from the backyard in like 1980

Good times lol..

 

[mechtech]

My Dad is from South Porcupine, I got tubes in my ears when I was little from the hospital I could see from the backyard in like 1980

Good times lol..

Nice, good ol sopo. Barn (South End Arena) still there and hospital is an old age home now. Tubes in ears, bummer. Winnipeg, not much different, -40C in the winter and +20-30C in the summer. Canada's winters suck, well -40C sucks lol

 

[freeagent]

Thanks man good to know! Glad they didn’t tear it down for some reason.

 

[mama]

And doesn't the 12900 need the help!

 

[Mussels]

This was only an issue with one brand of the sockets, board manufs could choose who to use... was the bad or good one LOTES?

If you had a good one, the mod will do nothing. A bad one, it could make a huge difference.

 

[Solid State Brain]

Both can have the same problem. It is CPU-specific: some bend more, some less; some have a more deformed heat spreader.
In his video, der8auer showed that using the same socket different CPUs can have different results.

 

[Jism]

Dialing in the proper voltage settings instead of relying on "AI Overclocking" features also reduce temps significantly. Asus' AI Overclocking might be stable but at the expense of unnecessary heat and temps. I was able to dial in a stable overclock of my 12700K @ 5.0 all core, 5.3 on 1 core, 5.2 on 3 cores, 5.1 on 4-7 cores... running cool at 74 degrees in Cinebench. 20 degrees below Asus' "AI Overclocking" nonsense.

You do know that there is nothing magic about running such (preset) profiles from the bios right?

 

[forman313]

I don't think there's much to discuss except someone trying to make money doing something a few extreme users actually need.

In some cases this kind of solution will result in better results than swapping TIM, fans or even cooler. Its not only for extreme users, and I´m guessing there will be mostly gamers and advanced users buing this. Extreme users tend to have full control in the cooling department. Bent MOBOs and GFX resulting in poor contact is not a new problem. Not by far.
But if you are saying its not for mainstream users, I agree completely. This product wont do them any good and the installation process is likely to end in disaster for some.

Still, compared to RGB lighting this product appears more useful than glue, duct tape and baking soda combined. On that note; how long until we see contact frames with RGB lights?

At some point the major manufacterers will stop laughing as they realise its not like shooting fish in a barrel. Its more like taking advantage.

 

[stimpy88]

WOW, Intel must have been in a rush designing the specifications for this CPU. What an oversight!

 

[Chaitanya]

WOW, Intel must have been in a rush designing the specifications for this CPU. What an oversight!

Wondering why.

 

[ThrashZone]

WOW, Intel must have been in a rush designing the specifications for this CPU. What an oversight!

Hi,
How so
Intel is not building mother boards
The board flexing is just bad/ cheap socket design

They "mother board manufactures" could of made socket design for these and other "Z" chips like x299 or older x99 sockets are and none of this flexing nonsense would be an issue since these have built in back plates and front cooler mount plates that sandwich the board thus are quite a bit stronger.

 

[Vayra86]

You know you screwed badly when 3rd party companies make crutches for your CPUs, and make profit out of it.

More like, customers get screwed badly if they think this is somehow necessary. I see this as a degradation of overall intelligence in customer base more than companies doing it wrong. Matter of fact, they're still making bank, citizens are not.

ADL is shite above 150W anyway.

 

[eidairaman1]

sooo the exact same thing Thermalright made a month or so ago?

Reminds me of the SkT A Shims to keep people from crushing the die

 

[PapaTaipei]

I'm gonna call bs on bending and 10°C less.

 

[Palladium]

At any rate, Intel should have really gone with the older retention mechanism with the rigid forward mounting nut.

 

[Mussels]

Hi,
How so
Intel is not building mother boards
The board flexing is just bad/ cheap socket design

They "mother board manufactures" could of made socket design for these and other "Z" chips like x299 or older x99 sockets are and none of this flexing nonsense would be an issue since these have built in back plates and front cooler mount plates that sandwich the board thus are quite a bit stronger.

The CPU itself is flexing too, weakening its contact with the IHS

Intel designed the CPU, the IHS, and the reference mounting mechanism so it's fair to say intel messed something up here - it IS fixable by telling the manufs to tighten up those tolerances but that only helps part of the issue, seeing that new info about the CPU's themselves having so much variance

The worst thing that can happen is basically accidental delidding where the solder breaks (or partially breaks) contact with the die, because nothing a user can do will restore that. Over time any system that's flexing will end up with thermal issues that wont be resolved short of delidding it

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Kind of glad i went with a custom loop right from the off with my ADL 12700k, the thick backplate certainly helped in my case, but others with air coolers might have had problems. Not sure if i really need this.

 

[stimpy88]

Hi,
How so
Intel is not building mother boards
The board flexing is just bad/ cheap socket design

They "mother board manufactures" could of made socket design for these and other "Z" chips like x299 or older x99 sockets are and none of this flexing nonsense would be an issue since these have built in back plates and front cooler mount plates that sandwich the board thus are quite a bit stronger.

That's where you're wrong. Intel designs every single aspect of the socket. The mobo makers are not allowed to deviate from their physical or electrical (they can and do exceed them) specifications of the platform. If you were correct, then we would only see this kind of issue on certain brands or models. It's wrong on all of them, so it's Intel's specs.

 

[eidairaman1]

I'm gonna call bs on bending and 10°C less.

Board flexing does occur still. I did it on my Sig Rig, when I saw it before I put the mobo in the case I reduced tension to where the mobo no longer bowed. Bowing can cause ram detection issues, potential trace damage, smd damage, overheating even.

 

[MentalAcetylide]

My Dad is from South Porcupine, I got tubes in my ears when I was little from the hospital I could see from the backyard in like 1980

Good times lol..

Oh those fricken things caused more problems than they solved. I had otitis media with major ear aches almost every time I got sick. More often than not, they ended up coming out & getting lodged in the ear canal. I think I had them put in like 3-4 different times when I was a kid. Fortunately for most, when they get older & the geometry of the inner ear changes, they don't need tubes in the ears.