Soonfoals the Latest AMD Radeon Add-in Board Partner

[btarunr]

The ecosystem of AMD AIBs (add-in board partners) increased this month, when Chinese consumer electronics company Weijian International launched the Soonfoals brand of AMD Radeon graphics cards. The name purportedly indicates fast-moving foals (young horses). From the looks of it, Soonfoals will focus on entry-mainstream SKUs, with its current lineup including cards based on the Radeon RX 6650 XT, RX 6600, RX 6500 XT, and RX 6400. Products include a single-slot, low-profile card based on the RX 6400, and dual-slot, dual-fan cards based on the other GPUs, including a premium-looking brand extension called "Lightning," denoting factory-overclocked RX 6650 XT and RX 6600 cards. From the looks of it, Soonfoals will look to grow locally in the Chinese market first.



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[TheLostSwede]

The name is actually Fast Horse, but somehow their translation software seems to have messed up the name...

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

From the looks of it, Soonfoals will look to grow locally in the Chinese market first.

Good, heaven forbid there should be another brand name in the US market, I mean get got Gigabyte still.

 

[Ferrum Master]

oh... another turkey moment.

 

[jesdals]

The name is actually Fast Horse, but somehow their translation software seems to have messed up the name...

Thought the name was "Soon fools" hinting to the nearly GPU generation upgrade

 

[tripleclicker]

Hopefully they become a 'reliable' brand, otherwise they might become the butt of jokes i.e. Soon Fails.

 

[Chrispy_]

This can only be a good thing.

XFX, Sapphire, Gigabyte, Asus, MSI, Powercolour, and Asrock all make some ridiculously ugly, oversize cards that don't fit well in smaller cases because they just re-use the massive coolers from their higher-end models and instead cheap out on backplates and secondary heatsinks for RAM/VRMs.

If Soonfoals only make lower-end cards hopefully they'll only make appropriate coolers for them too.

 

[thegnome]

Pretty sure it's just another OEM bringing standard cooler designs. Good enough but nothing special...

This can only be a good thing.

XFX, Sapphire, Gigabyte, Asus, MSI, Powercolour, and Asrock all make some ridiculously ugly, oversize cards that don't fit well in smaller cases because they just re-use the massive coolers from their higher-end models and instead cheap out on backplates and secondary heatsinks for RAM/VRMs.

If Soonfoals only make lower-end cards hopefully they'll only make appropriate coolers for them too.

What cases don't fit large cards these days, maybe only super tiny <10l cases with very low cooling headroom anyways? Besides it's not like they only produce their fat 3 slot coolers for say a 3050. It is an option yes, but there's still plenty of smaller dual fan and sometimes single fan cards around. That they aren't as good as the triple fan cards is hopefully obvious.

 

[TheDeeGee]

Soonfails?

 

[Chrispy_]

Pretty sure it's just another OEM bringing standard cooler designs. Good enough but nothing special...


What cases don't fit large cards these days, maybe only super tiny <10l cases with very low cooling headroom anyways? Besides it's not like they only produce their fat 3 slot coolers for say a 3050. It is an option yes, but there's still plenty of smaller dual fan and sometimes single fan cards around. That they aren't as good as the triple fan cards is hopefully obvious.

There are absolutely loads of HTPC cases (living room gaming PC is a common scenario) and mITX cases in the 10-20L range that don't like over-height cards, or that physically fit but have so little clearance that the top edge of the card is rammed up against the side panel and blocking most of the airflow exiting the cooler.

There are even enough regular ATX cases that suffer the same issue. If your case doesn't have clearance for a tall CPU tower clearance (and there are loads of mATX and ATX cases that fit that bill) then you will also struggle to properly cool a GPU that's 140mm+ tall

Here's a completely typical 6600XT (the cheapest and by no means the largest one on the market, but similar in size to several ASUS, Gigabyte, and Powercolor models):

Hot air exhausts out of the top and bottom edge of the card. The air coming out of the bottom is hindered by the motherboard and slot itself, forcing hot air to just get recirculated back into the fans again, so the top edge does the lion's share of the actual cooling. If your case only has clearance for CPU tower coolers under 148mm, for example, that leaves a pathetic 8mm of breathing room for a set of fins that are 20-30mm deep, and your cooling will suffer as a result, netting you higher fan RPM, increased GPU temperatures, and more fan noise. You'd want a case that claims compatibilty with 160mm tower coolers to not completely choke a 140mm-tall GPU like the MSI Mech card pictured about.

150mm max CPU clearance is pretty common for cases with the word "compact" in their name, and plenty of HTPC cases from Silverstone and Fractal don't even accomodate GPUs over 130mm tall. I use a particularly restrictive Silverstone GD05 that barely squeezes 115mm cards in - it was designed with reference blowers in mind and really struggles with large, open coolers that are prevalent today even at the low-end.

 

[Assimilator]

The name is actually Fast Horse, but somehow their translation software seems to have messed up the name...

You mean Google Translate?

 

[thegnome]

There are absolutely loads of HTPC cases (living room gaming PC is a common scenario) and mITX cases in the 10-20L range that don't like over-height cards, or that physically fit but have so little clearance that the top edge of the card is rammed up against the side panel and blocking most of the airflow exiting the cooler.

There are even enough regular ATX cases that suffer the same issue. If your case doesn't have clearance for a tall CPU tower clearance (and there are loads of mATX and ATX cases that fit that bill) then you will also struggle to properly cool a GPU that's 140mm+ tall

Here's a completely typical 6600XT (the cheapest and by no means the largest one on the market, but similar in size to several ASUS, Gigabyte, and Powercolor models):

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Hot air exhausts out of the top and bottom edge of the card. The air coming out of the bottom is hindered by the motherboard and slot itself, forcing hot air to just get recirculated back into the fans again, so the top edge does the lion's share of the actual cooling. If your case only has clearance for CPU tower coolers under 148mm, for example, that leaves a pathetic 8mm of breathing room for a set of fins that are 20-30mm deep, and your cooling will suffer as a result, netting you higher fan RPM, increased GPU temperatures, and more fan noise. You'd want a case that claims compatibilty with 160mm tower coolers to not completely choke a 140mm-tall GPU like the MSI Mech card pictured about.

150mm max CPU clearance is pretty common for cases with the word "compact" in their name, and plenty of HTPC cases from Silverstone and Fractal don't even accomodate GPUs over 130mm tall. I use a particularly restrictive Silverstone GD05 that barely squeezes 115mm cards in - it was designed with reference blowers in mind and really struggles with large, open coolers that are prevalent today even at the low-end.

Sure, I agree on you that we do need some blower cards, but still anything smaller than that 6600xt cooler running over 150-200w would become a problem, even in the largest cases. The problem is really the trade off between going for a 110mm sized gpu, netting smaller fans and much smaller surface area, or a 140mm gpu that struggles to fit select cases and have enough clearance to get rid of the heat. Yet the best part is that the 140mm gpu's could actually get better temps & noise levels, despite being choked a bit.

Problem is with most cases it's not the gpu's but the case design themselfs. I'm pretty sure very small itx don't have TG, and they could easily give the gpu some breathing room. Most of them being designed years ago with blowers in mind, something that's basically dead. Modern ITX cases (H1, meshilicious, NR200, etc) can all easily fit these more modern gpu's. Funnily enough, the 3050/6500 xt models come with a much smaller height, as their tdp is much lower, which in my mind is actually the kind of card to use in tiny chassis'.

I would say pick gpu's carefully, as for example the much shorter eagle (2 & 3 fan) 6600xt's also exist, and they would fit much better as they are more like 110-120mm tall. My best take from this is really to just pick gpu's carefully, and perhaps drill a few holes in the case or get a newer case more focused on modern gpu cooling.

 

[AusWolf]

Release date: soon.

 

[Jism]

Release date: soon.

Yes, they afterall dependend of what AMD or TSMC in this case can deliver to them.

 

[AusWolf]

Yes, they afterall dependend of what AMD or TSMC in this case can deliver to them.

I mean, Soonfoals.

 

[TheLostSwede]

You mean Google Translate?

Nah, not allowed in the PRC, so they use their own translation software. A lot of companies in Taiwan also use local translation software, like Dr. Eye.

 

[Vayra86]

Thought the name was "Soon fools" hinting to the nearly GPU generation upgrade

Oh I thought 'Soon Fails', I honestly read it like that.

Seems applicable.

 

[R0H1T]

another turkey moment.

You mean Türkiye

 

[Ferrum Master]

You mean Türkiye

It seems rarely who did really understand why I used this remark.