Loongson Claims its CPU IPC Will Match AMD Zen 3 and Intel Willow Cove by 2023

[btarunr]

Chinese PC and server processor designer Loongson claims that its upcoming processor microarchitecture will offer an IPC that matches that of the AMD "Zen 3" (or slightly faster than Intel "Willow Cove."). The Godson 3A6000 processors are based on the LA664 microarchitecture, which Loongson has compared with off-the-shelf AMD Ryzen 5 5600G and Intel Core i7-1165G7 processors, on several cross-platform benchmarks, and claimed to have obtained comparable single-threaded performance.

The LA664 microarchitecture is based on Loongson's in-house ISA, and unlike Zhaoxin processors, aren't x86-64 compatible. Loongson processors are generally bought in bulk by the Chinese government and military, to run servers and workstations that are completely devoid of foreign hardware, for security reasons. The custom machine architecture is paired with a compatible *nix operating system that's equally built from the ground-up. 2023 will see Loongson launch 3A6000 processor as a multi-chip module with 32 CPU cores.



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[ghazi]

I don't buy it, but we'll see. Even if they match Zen 2 it would be remarkable.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I don't buy it, but we'll see. Even if they match Zen 2 it would be remarkable.

Agreed. However they might be close..

 

[Hyderz]

even if performance matches, the processors probably have all kinds of security loopholes for people to exploit...

 

[eidairaman1]

Doubt it

 

[Veseleil]

even if performance matches, the processors probably have all kinds of security loopholes for people to exploit...

How about reading the whole text before commenting?

Loongson processors are generally bought in bulk by the Chinese government and military, to run servers and workstations that are completely devoid of foreign hardware, for security reasons.

 

[Chaitanya]

How about reading the whole text before commenting?

Funny thing is CCP always accuses everyone of spying and ban foreign products while if some foreign govt accuse and ban Chinese manufacturers due to spying its an attempt to cripple China.

 

[Veseleil]

Funny thing is CCP always accuses everyone of spying and ban foreign products while if some foreign govt accuse and ban Chinese manufacturers due to spying its an attempt to cripple China.

I've said that just to cripple "China bad" narrative which seems like a norm nowadays. Probably because the TV said so too many times. There is a reason why something like this and Elbrus exists. Don't you think they have enough x79 Xeons already? Accusing them now for doing something that Anglosaxons did for centuries is a bit hypocritical to say the least.
Btw your reply seems like a trolling attempt. It's far away from topic.

 

[JalleR]

well i guess they just copy pasted a Zen3 / willow cove architecture then.........

 

[AceKingSuited]

I've said that just to cripple "China bad" narrative which seems like a norm nowadays. Probably because the TV said so too many times. There is a reason why something like this and Elbrus exists. Don't you think they have enough x79 Xeons already? Accusing them now for doing something that Anglosaxons did for centuries is a bit hypocritical to say the least.
Btw your reply seems like a trolling attempt. It's far away from topic.

Lol yup, it's pot calling the kettle black. The current narrative is:

CIA/FBI/UK/Five Eyes spying - good
CCP/Russia/NK/Iran spying - bad

It's all the same shit and frankly I don't give a shit. I can't believe I wasted my time responding but sometimes it's funny exposing hypocrites

 

[ZoneDymo]

I mean, its not like any of us ever get a product like this in time to test these claims anyway...so what is the point?
For all I care they claim they can do 15x Zen 4 performances at 2 watts.....

 

[joemama]

I doubt that they will come up with any actual useful CPUs, China's CPU industry seems to me just a bunch of scammers trying to earn the subsidy from the CCP goverment

 

[Calmmo]

The power espionage.

 

[R-T-B]

I doubt that they will come up with any actual useful CPUs, China's CPU industry seems to me just a bunch of scammers trying to earn the subsidy from the CCP goverment

The top100 supercomputing ranking loongson helped them earn literally years ago disagrees with you.

Unless you mean "useful consumer cpus." Then maybe.

 

[Bones]

even if performance matches, the processors probably have all kinds of security loopholes for The CCP to exploit...

Fixed that for you.

As for them using "Local hardware" (Devoid of foreign hardware) that is also from a Chinese perspective.
Makes sense for them to use hardware that's local to them for same reasons we would be wary of them and what they make to that end in their favor.

As for performance, it may be decent to OK but I seriously doubt it will be close to what AMD and Intel has out.
They can claim it, post charts and other things but until it's in your own hands for you to test and see for yourself I'd take those claims with several grains of salt.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

If politics here in the US get any worse, China will own us and at that point it wont matter what cpu we choose, which ever one has the best spying capability will win. There is a reason Loongson likely wont be reviewed here.