Intel Arc A380 Desktop GPU Does Worse in Actual Gaming than Synthetic Benchmarks

[AlwaysHope]

Poor performance from Intel gpu cause' game devs have already optimised game codes for either AMD or Nvidia in those game titles mentioned by the OP.

 

[AnarchoPrimitiv]

It was well known that the drivers were in a quite immature state, so it'll be interesting to see how this GPU ages.

By the time they fix the drivers, RX 7000 and RTX 4000 will be out, so at that point Intel will have to sell this GPU for $70 to stay relevant

Poor performance from Intel gpu cause' game devs have already optimised game codes for either AMD or Nvidia in those game titles mentioned by the OP.

And that's mostly for Nvidia... I wouldn't be surprised if AMD has to do the optimization for the game devs.

 

[Daven]

By the time they fix the drivers, RX 7000 and RTX 4000 will be out, so at that point Intel will have to sell this GPU for $70 to stay relevant


And that's mostly for Nvidia... I wouldn't be surprised if AMD has to do the optimization for the game devs.

Many Game devs probably optimized on AMD hardware first because of consoles. However Such optimizations don’t always translate well to the PC versions of games.

 

[SOAREVERSOR]

Many Game devs probably optimized on AMD hardware first because of consoles. However Such optimizations don’t always translate well to the PC versions of games.

Yeah but those optimizations are specifically for the limited set of hardware in those consoles. If you simply have one target CPU and GPU with a set amount of memory at a set speed and a set amount of storage at a set speed you can really optomize for it. Even if all PCs were AMD CPUs and GPUs thats still thousands of combinations out there and all sorts of memory speeds and storage speeds so you can't optomize nearly as well.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

At least they can make the next gen better with the interest money from the EU.

You beat me to it.

By the time they fix the drivers, RX 7000 and RTX 4000 will be out, so at that point Intel will have to sell this GPU for $70 to stay relevant


And that's mostly for Nvidia... I wouldn't be surprised if AMD has to do the optimization for the game devs.

I agree with this, I still think the delays were the cause for the launch delays.

 

[Blaeza]

Did anyone expect this to be decent?

 

[laszlo]

Did anyone expect this to be decent?

one person for sure:

they may be others also...

 

[Blaeza]

one person for sure:
View attachment 251943they may be others also...

I was hoping it'd be alright to be honest. Another GPU line up to look at maybe consider. Then discover my humble GTX 1660 S is WAY better and that just kaboshed any hope for the rest of the cards they are going to release. I know this is the bargain basement one but bloody hell worse than a 1650, worse than a 6400. They may as well of not bothered.

 

[Bomby569]

We've seen amazing increases in fps just with driver releases, this is actually very common, especially with AMD

AMD's New Radeon Preview Driver Brings Double-Digit Performance Gains

Free performance for all Radeon owners

www.tomshardware.com

that is the reason for the difference between real world and syntethic benchmarks. I've said this would happen, AMD still struggles to get decent drivers let alone Intel as a newcomer.

 

[Vayra86]

Intel really dropped the ball with this one.

At least they finally dropped something

This is a great step up from an Intel IGP! Yeah I'm trying to be an optimist here, I know.

Poor performance from Intel gpu cause' game devs have already optimised game codes for either AMD or Nvidia in those game titles mentioned by the OP.

Yeah and Intel certainly didn't have time to get a similar job done, like they managed to do for synthetics? They've delayed how many years now? And if they need that long, what does that say about their efforts going forward? Intel Fine Wine? We know that even for AMD that one didn't really make them money.

And let's not forget we're also just looking at one model in the stack here. If this persists throughout, we should start to wonder if their effort is even a real effort. If this really is the best they could do, Raja really did a Raja after all and Intel is left picking up the pieces. Its not unthinkable that Intel already intervened by postponing so often, because its a total waste of silicon to get higher stack pieces going with this performance per square mm. The launch in China is already speaking volumes. This is not how you want to position and launch premium stuff.

 

[Daven]

The saddest part is that these Intel discrete GPUs are not going to go up against next gen discrete GPUs from AMD and Nvidia but rather next gen AMD IGPs. At this rate if AMD doubles its next gen IGP performance, they will be faster than half of Intel‘s entire discrete stack.

 

[Blaeza]

We've seen amazing increases in fps just with driver releases, this is actually very common, especially with AMD

AMD's New Radeon Preview Driver Brings Double-Digit Performance Gains

Free performance for all Radeon owners

www.tomshardware.com

that is the reason for the difference between real world and syntethic benchmarks. I've said this would happen, AMD still struggles to get decent drivers let alone Intel as a newcomer.

AMD for CPU's and Nvidia for GPU's is how I roll... At least for now, anyway.

 

[zlobby]

one person for sure:
View attachment 251943they may be others also...

Maybe even he did not expect it, maybe he only hoped that it would be decent.

 

[Vayra86]

Maybe even he did not expect it, maybe he only hoped that it would be decent.

If that is the case... as project lead that says a whole lot about what you're actually bringing to the table there. I know quite a few managers like that - their grasp on the technology is so low, you wonder how they survived this long.

 

[WeeRab]

All this nonsense about Drivers. Intel has almost inexhaustible resources to write proper drivers. They've had years to fix it. Kodouri and his team should be ashamed of this card.
This makes the RX6500 look like screamingly-fast bargain.

 

[PapaTaipei]

1650 are at 220euros here

 

[ravenhold]

I'm now convinced that all Arc lineup will fit in the GPU price gaps with AMD and Nvidia. There won't be head on head competitors. A380 is probably the bottom feeder.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

6500 XT is a disaster you shouldn't buy.

Which makes this what?!.

Hopefully the higher performance Arc's are just that.

 

[micropage7]

they should state it's 4X better performance than 2015 cards

 

[Bomby569]

All this nonsense about Drivers. Intel has almost inexhaustible resources to write proper drivers. They've had years to fix it. Kodouri and his team should be ashamed of this card.
This makes the RX6500 look like screamingly-fast bargain.

Money doesn't solve problems, if it did Intel would have never lost the 1st place in CPU's to a company that was almost bankrupt. It's a new architecture, it's a company that is new to the GPU market. Making IGPU's is not the same thing.

 

[QuietBob]

Yeah, but can you get a 6500XT for $160?

In Europe the 6500XT now starts at USD 145 (pre-tax)
Still, I believe the A380 will sell in some markets. A card that can do 1080p60 in multiplayer is going to be hugely popular with MMORPG gamers who don't care for extreme fps. No wonder Intel decided to launch this in Asia.

 

[ravenhold]

In Europe the 6500XT now starts at USD 145 (pre-tax)
Still, I believe the A380 will sell in some markets. A card that can do 1080p60 in multiplayer is going to be hugely popular with MMORPG gamers who don't care for extreme fps. No wonder Intel decided to launch this in Asia.

It is about $270-280 with tax. Taxes are really high.

 

[Vayra86]

Money doesn't solve problems, if it did Intel would have never lost the 1st place in CPU's to a company that was almost bankrupt. It's a new architecture, it's a company that is new to the GPU market. Making IGPU's is not the same thing.

And yet their dGPU is built / iterated from their IGP Execution Units.

This company is FAR from new to GPU. The reality is they have been 'working on' their graphics solution for decades now, and they always did the least necessary to keep their CPUs in the market. That principle is hurting them now, when they have to show their money's worth.

I mean you can flood the chain with these shitty Arcs but that won't be doing you any good. The main difference for Intel is therefore not just the fact its a discrete product, but the fact its not automagically bundled with a CPU so it has to count for something. Its for that exact reason they start on mobile: customers don't buy their product, they buy a laptop.

For a giant like Intel there aren't any excuses here. They're blundering ahead; still no chiplet CPU. Still no competitive dGPU stack. Still securing stuff for a future we're about to get, but not now, tomorrow! The only optimism I can find with Intel is the fact their big.little idea is actually working out for them, in a limited way. But even with that 'design win' they're still trailing competition on CPU, and the competition can easily incorporate it within its own design win, while Intel can't return the favor just yet.

 

[bug]

Tbh I was hoping for pressure on the 6700/3060Ti segment. This level of performance isn't doing anybody any good.

A review would be nice. One that looks at die size and such, to put things in the proper perspective.

 

[ARF]

Will Techpowerup get a card, do a review and include the results in the database as it should be?

I mean there: Intel Arc A380 Specs | TechPowerUp GPU Database