Intel's 13th Gen Raptor Lake ES CPU gets Benchmarked

[efikkan]

Wait didnt they do something odd with 9 and 10 as well as 10 and 11?

9th/10th gen was basically a refresh of 8th gen, with higher core count and some bugfixes. If anything was a waste of sand it would have been 10th gen.
11th gen was a decent improvement, but it was so delayed that it arrived shortly before 12th gen, which is why it received so much criticism. If it had arrived one year earlier, the reception would have been very different.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
11 & 12 series were pure rushed reaction releases because amd handed intel their ass's with a single 5k series drop
11 was just a single core bump to get by amd single core
12 was to do both single and multi core over amd 5k series

AMD just laughed that it took intel two freaking series to get past 5k amd chips

 

[Mussels]

9th/10th gen was basically a refresh of 8th gen, with higher core count and some bugfixes. If anything was a waste of sand it would have been 10th gen.
11th gen was a decent improvement, but it was so delayed that it arrived shortly before 12th gen, which is why it received so much criticism. If it had arrived one year earlier, the reception would have been very different.

the biggest issue with the 11900K at launch was that intel dropped two cores, but the IPC improvement didnt counter it - so in anything heavily threaded it was slower.

Intels solution was to bolt-on slower efficiency cores, which while crazy is very likely the future both AMD and intel will follow. They couldnt add more of the performance cores without blasting the wattage to the moon, or crippling core counts so they innovated.

Ryzen already did this, but there comes a point when the entry level models (5600x) are already good enough for 99% of the population, and the extra cores are only useful in synthetics and productivity... and we truly dont need all our cores to be identical.
(The 12600k would be the equal here, but it was too new to be in the review i was referencing)


Intel do have 2P8E and 4P8E laptop parts, but they're missing on desktop and it feels a bit weird. They'd be great there.
AMD could do it easily with their modular CPU designs, and we technically already can do it with per-CCX overclocking - nothing would stop them mixing Zen 3 + Zen 4 CCX's on the same CPU

Look at the 5950x and the 5800x having the same cores and same max wattages, re-using the cores in the middle of their efficiency curve instead of OC'd to the max at the end of it *works*

TL;DR: AMD and Intel could use stockpiles of last-gen CPU dies as the E-cores on next-gen designs and I feel it's damned likely