AMD Ryzen 7000 Series Dragon Range and Phoenix Mobile Processor Specifications Leak

[gestures_broadly]

I’m thinking AMD might have planned for high IPC in Zen 4 but changed the plans and delayed things as they talked about Zen 5 being a major architectural change in the Analyst Day earlier this month.

Even TPU has a quote from AMD in their upcoming products article saying Zen 4 would be looked at from scratch to find performance wherever possible. I think they were too ambitious and delayed these changes to Zen 5.

This is just fantasy. CPU design moves too slowly to punt changes from one architecture to the next without significant delays to both.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

So that makes you what exactly?

Obviously you dont read the rest of the forums.

This is a leak and should not be taken so seriously.

 

[SL2]

I went through all four pages of comments at your link and could not find a comment from me.

No, but calling it an APU and while admitting it got only 2 CU is a contradiction.

Which makes sense to me. Yes, they're talking about desktop here (supposedly up to 4 compute units), but I highly doubt AMD would say differently about Dragon Range (2 CU).

Calling anything AMD x86 an APU just because it has an IGP would open up a whole can of worms when customers realize that their sixth generation -aPU- is slower in games than a five year old, first generation APU.
I mean, people were losing their shit when 5800U was Zen3 and 5700U was Zen 2.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

So that makes you what exactly?

A member with 6k+ posts to your 290

 

[LuxZg]

Damn, the comment section went wild

I just wanted to say that IF this ends up true, for the first time ever I could see me going with laptop for next PC. 7800HS would be all I need...

Well, if, and a big IF. But enough to maybe postpone my late 2022 shopping spree for after more info is dropped.

 

[eidairaman1]

MX350/450? Sounds like you're the one that smoking mushrooms.

His nose is up in the air (stuckup snob from france)

 

[Minus Infinity]

AMD needs to release something faster because it trails behind the mobile Core i9 series.

The Ryzen 9 6980HX is around 9% faster than the Ryzen 9 5980HX.
So, 23262 x1.09 would result in 25424 for the Ryzen 9 6980HX PassMark score.

The Core i9-12900HK is still some more 11% faster.

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Yeah sure using 120W vs 65W. If you keep Intel HX to the 60W range Rembrandt is as fast and in the 35-35W range it is faster. This exactly what Dragon is addressing, Intel's HX series which are really desktop CPU"s anyway. AMD got sick of seeing Intel advertise stuff with 2x the power usage against Renmbrandt.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

Well, if, and a big IF. But enough to maybe postpone my late 2022 shopping spree for after more info is dropped.

Things like is now pretty much the norm to stir marketing hype, knowing this I have postponed long enough so the first round of motherboard bugs could be addressed.

Waiting a month or two wont hurt IF you can hold out, taking to wallets across the world here.

 

[ghazi]

Big if true. This is a sort of dream AMD has been waiting to realize for over a decade. First the full Raphael config being able to scale down to laptops with 16 real cores. And then the big 24 CU IGP we've heard about before finally giving a discrete level experience from a Fusion APU. It's been a long time coming.

 

[ARF]

Yeah sure using 120W vs 65W. If you keep Intel HX to the 60W range Rembrandt is as fast and in the 35-35W range it is faster. This exactly what Dragon is addressing, Intel's HX series which are really desktop CPU"s anyway. AMD got sick of seeing Intel advertise stuff with 2x the power usage against Renmbrandt.

I know this. But the OEMs don't care and they sell the intel notebooks to the users.

 

[Daven]

A member with 6k+ posts to your 290

Do you win something if you pass a certain number of posts?

 

[trsttte]

So they're basically doing what Intel does, having the high power mobile sku use the same silicon as the desktop with lower power and no IHS. It will be interesting to see how this pans out since AMD doesn't have monolithic dies to this with.

If only they also figured a socketable solution so we both had a return to upgradable laptops like back in the day and could see zen4 cpus in the wild coming without ihs from the factory, one can always dream