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They could've neutralised Alder Lake with Ryzen 9 3D. But it seems they cannot keep up with demand why bother.
System Name | 4K-gaming / media-PC |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 5800X / Intel Core i7-6700K |
Motherboard | Asus ROG Crosshair VII Hero / Asus Z170-K |
Cooling | Alphacool Eisbaer 360 / Alphacool Eisbaer 240 |
Memory | 32GB DDR4-3466 / 16GB DDR4-3000 |
Video Card(s) | Asus RTX 3080 TUF OC / Powercolor RX 6700 XT |
Storage | 3.3TB of SSDs / several small SSDs |
Display(s) | Acer 27" 4K120 IPS + Lenovo 32" 4K60 IPS |
Case | Corsair 4000D AF White / DeepCool CC560 WH |
Audio Device(s) | Sony WH-CN720N |
Power Supply | EVGA G2 750W / Fractal ION Gold 550W |
Mouse | Logitech MX518 / Logitech G400s |
Keyboard | Roccat Vulcan 121 AIMO / NOS C450 Mini Pro |
VR HMD | Oculus Rift CV1 |
Software | Windows 11 Pro / Windows 11 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | They run Crysis |
I just think that R9X3D wasn't worth it when Zen4 is just around the corner.They could've neutralised Alder Lake with Ryzen 9 3D. But it seems they cannot keep up with demand why bother.
System Name | DaBeast!!! DaBeast2!!! |
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Processor | AMD AM4 Ryzen 7 5700X3D 8C/16T/AMD AM4 RYZEN 9 5900X 12C/24T |
Motherboard | Gigabyte X570 Aorus Xtreme/Gigabyte X570S Aorus Elite AX |
Cooling | Thermaltake Water 3.0 360 AIO/Thermalright PA 120 SE |
Memory | 2x 16GB Corsair Vengeance RGB RT DDR4 3600C16/2x 16GB Patriot Elite II DDR4 4000MHz |
Video Card(s) | XFX MERC 310 RX 7900 XTX 24GB/Sapphire Nitro+ RX 6900 XT 16GB |
Storage | 500GB Crucial P3 Plus NVMe PCIe 4x4 + 4TB Lexar NM790 NVMe PCIe 4x4 + TG Cardea Zero Z NVMe PCIe 4x4 |
Display(s) | Samsung LC49HG90DMEX 32:9 144Hz Freesync 2/Acer XR341CK 75Hz 21:9 Freesync |
Case | CoolerMaster H500M/SOLDAM XR-1 |
Audio Device(s) | iFi Micro iDSD BL + Philips Fidelio B97/FostexHP-A4 + LG SP8YA |
Power Supply | Corsair HX1000 Platinum/Enermax MAXREVO 1500 |
Mouse | Logitech G303 Shroud Ed/Logitech G603 WL |
Keyboard | Logitech G915/Keychron K2 |
Software | Win11 Pro/Win11 Pro |
Well, IF there really were a 5900X3D , then I'd be all over it like a bad rash. It'd be a great replacement for the 3900X I have right now.5900X3D is a compelling CPU for the duality of content creation/editing etc and gaming, a great mixture of cores for productivity, and that sweet sweet vcache for gaming.
System Name | EA-ZEN |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D with -50mW UV |
Motherboard | Asus X570 |
Cooling | Big Air |
Memory | 2x16 GB DDR4 3600 CL16 |
Video Card(s) | Asus RTX 2080 Ti Strix highly OC’ed |
Storage | 1 TB NVME, 500 GB SSD etc |
Display(s) | 2x 27”, main: curved 144Hz SVA with BLS and HDR |
Case | Full Tower |
Audio Device(s) | Z906 5.1 and Audeze Headphones, Shure SM7B mic |
Power Supply | Enough |
Mouse | Old but gold |
Keyboard | Mechanical Cherry Brown |
Software | Windows 10 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | A lot |
System Name | The beast and the little runt. |
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Processor | Ryzen 5 5600X - Ryzen 9 5950X |
Motherboard | ASUS ROG STRIX B550-I GAMING - ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero X570 |
Cooling | Noctua NH-L9x65 SE-AM4a - NH-D15 chromax.black with IPPC Industrial 3000 RPM 120/140 MM fans. |
Memory | G.SKILL TRIDENT Z ROYAL GOLD/SILVER 32 GB (2 x 16 GB and 4 x 8 GB) 3600 MHz CL14-15-15-35 1.45 volts |
Video Card(s) | GIGABYTE RTX 4060 OC LOW PROFILE - GIGABYTE RTX 4090 GAMING OC |
Storage | Samsung 980 PRO 1 TB + 2 TB - Samsung 870 EVO 4 TB - 2 x WD RED PRO 16 GB + WD ULTRASTAR 22 TB |
Display(s) | Asus 27" TUF VG27AQL1A and a Dell 24" for dual setup |
Case | Phanteks Enthoo 719/LUXE 2 BLACK |
Audio Device(s) | Onboard on both boards |
Power Supply | Phanteks Revolt X 1200W |
Mouse | Logitech G903 Lightspeed Wireless Gaming Mouse |
Keyboard | Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum |
Software | WINDOWS 10 PRO 64 BITS on both systems |
Benchmark Scores | Se more about my 2 in 1 system here: kortlink.dk/2ca4x |
Not really. Alder Lake beats the Ryzen 9s at most creation loads right now. We know from the 5800X3D that the 3D versions are actually worse in creation workflows. This is strictly a gaming boost. The Ryzen 9 doesn't make sense. Now a Ryzen 5 would.They could've neutralised Alder Lake with Ryzen 9 3D. But it seems they cannot keep up with demand why bother.
System Name | DaBeast!!! DaBeast2!!! |
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Processor | AMD AM4 Ryzen 7 5700X3D 8C/16T/AMD AM4 RYZEN 9 5900X 12C/24T |
Motherboard | Gigabyte X570 Aorus Xtreme/Gigabyte X570S Aorus Elite AX |
Cooling | Thermaltake Water 3.0 360 AIO/Thermalright PA 120 SE |
Memory | 2x 16GB Corsair Vengeance RGB RT DDR4 3600C16/2x 16GB Patriot Elite II DDR4 4000MHz |
Video Card(s) | XFX MERC 310 RX 7900 XTX 24GB/Sapphire Nitro+ RX 6900 XT 16GB |
Storage | 500GB Crucial P3 Plus NVMe PCIe 4x4 + 4TB Lexar NM790 NVMe PCIe 4x4 + TG Cardea Zero Z NVMe PCIe 4x4 |
Display(s) | Samsung LC49HG90DMEX 32:9 144Hz Freesync 2/Acer XR341CK 75Hz 21:9 Freesync |
Case | CoolerMaster H500M/SOLDAM XR-1 |
Audio Device(s) | iFi Micro iDSD BL + Philips Fidelio B97/FostexHP-A4 + LG SP8YA |
Power Supply | Corsair HX1000 Platinum/Enermax MAXREVO 1500 |
Mouse | Logitech G303 Shroud Ed/Logitech G603 WL |
Keyboard | Logitech G915/Keychron K2 |
Software | Win11 Pro/Win11 Pro |
I just think that R9X3D wasn't worth it when Zen4 is just around the corner.
System Name | 4K-gaming / media-PC |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 5800X / Intel Core i7-6700K |
Motherboard | Asus ROG Crosshair VII Hero / Asus Z170-K |
Cooling | Alphacool Eisbaer 360 / Alphacool Eisbaer 240 |
Memory | 32GB DDR4-3466 / 16GB DDR4-3000 |
Video Card(s) | Asus RTX 3080 TUF OC / Powercolor RX 6700 XT |
Storage | 3.3TB of SSDs / several small SSDs |
Display(s) | Acer 27" 4K120 IPS + Lenovo 32" 4K60 IPS |
Case | Corsair 4000D AF White / DeepCool CC560 WH |
Audio Device(s) | Sony WH-CN720N |
Power Supply | EVGA G2 750W / Fractal ION Gold 550W |
Mouse | Logitech MX518 / Logitech G400s |
Keyboard | Roccat Vulcan 121 AIMO / NOS C450 Mini Pro |
VR HMD | Oculus Rift CV1 |
Software | Windows 11 Pro / Windows 11 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | They run Crysis |
I can see the point of 5800X3D - to get the crown of the fastest gaming CPU (or at least trading blows), but having the whole lineup with that 3D cache, yeah, no sense.It will create internal competition - why does AMD insist to produce two lineups with approximately equal or similar performance characteristics?
Zen 3 3D =~ Zen 4.
Processor | AMD R7 5800X3D |
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Motherboard | Asus Crosshair VIII Dark Hero |
Cooling | Thermalright Frozen Edge 360, 3x TL-B12 V2, 2x TL-B12 V1 |
Memory | 2x8 G.Skill Trident Z Royal 3200C14, 2x8GB G.Skill Trident Z Black and White 3200 C14 |
Video Card(s) | Zotac 4070 Ti Trinity OC |
Storage | WD SN850 1TB, SN850X 2TB, SN770 1TB |
Display(s) | LG 50UP7100 |
Case | Fractal Torrent Compact |
Audio Device(s) | JBL Bar 700 |
Power Supply | Seasonic Vertex GX-1000, Monster HDP1800 |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Hero |
Keyboard | Logitech G213 |
VR HMD | Oculus 3 |
Software | Yes |
Benchmark Scores | Yes |
I can see the point of 5800X3D - to get the crown of the fastest gaming CPU (or at least trading blows), but having the whole lineup with that 3D cache, yeah, no sense.
System Name | 4K-gaming / media-PC |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 5800X / Intel Core i7-6700K |
Motherboard | Asus ROG Crosshair VII Hero / Asus Z170-K |
Cooling | Alphacool Eisbaer 360 / Alphacool Eisbaer 240 |
Memory | 32GB DDR4-3466 / 16GB DDR4-3000 |
Video Card(s) | Asus RTX 3080 TUF OC / Powercolor RX 6700 XT |
Storage | 3.3TB of SSDs / several small SSDs |
Display(s) | Acer 27" 4K120 IPS + Lenovo 32" 4K60 IPS |
Case | Corsair 4000D AF White / DeepCool CC560 WH |
Audio Device(s) | Sony WH-CN720N |
Power Supply | EVGA G2 750W / Fractal ION Gold 550W |
Mouse | Logitech MX518 / Logitech G400s |
Keyboard | Roccat Vulcan 121 AIMO / NOS C450 Mini Pro |
VR HMD | Oculus Rift CV1 |
Software | Windows 11 Pro / Windows 11 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | They run Crysis |
Sucks though that Zen4 won't support DDR4, Intel did a wise move with ADL supporting though.The only thing that comes up in my mind is that AMD pursues higher production volumes - maybe they will be able to deliver more wafers Zen 3 3D + Zen 4 than only if they move everything to the new Zen 4.
Also, I think they are afraid of the DDR5 pricing, and this is why they will try to continue the AM4 support a bit further.
Sucks though that Zen4 won't support DDR4, Intel did a wise move with ADL supporting though.
And yeah, I remember that Phenom II did support both DDR2 and DDR3, weird how they didn't do a similar thing again.
System Name | 4K-gaming / media-PC |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 5800X / Intel Core i7-6700K |
Motherboard | Asus ROG Crosshair VII Hero / Asus Z170-K |
Cooling | Alphacool Eisbaer 360 / Alphacool Eisbaer 240 |
Memory | 32GB DDR4-3466 / 16GB DDR4-3000 |
Video Card(s) | Asus RTX 3080 TUF OC / Powercolor RX 6700 XT |
Storage | 3.3TB of SSDs / several small SSDs |
Display(s) | Acer 27" 4K120 IPS + Lenovo 32" 4K60 IPS |
Case | Corsair 4000D AF White / DeepCool CC560 WH |
Audio Device(s) | Sony WH-CN720N |
Power Supply | EVGA G2 750W / Fractal ION Gold 550W |
Mouse | Logitech MX518 / Logitech G400s |
Keyboard | Roccat Vulcan 121 AIMO / NOS C450 Mini Pro |
VR HMD | Oculus Rift CV1 |
Software | Windows 11 Pro / Windows 11 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | They run Crysis |
I paid 179EUR for my 32GB kit last year so I'll just keep kickin' with AM4 for a while, I bet that upgrading to a 5700X for example is more than fine for me for years.Yeah, anyone going to AM5 will need to ditch any expensive DDR4 they bought for a loss, unless like a fair few on here they are PC kleptos with multiple machines.
I can see a 5900X3D or 5950X3D to keep the platform in top spots of gaming charts while also offering excellent multitasking performance. A 5600X3D doesn't make much sense, considering the price hike this model will have because of the extra cost of adding Vcache and the fact that in multitasking will be even more problematic than 5800X3D when comparing it with Intel's models at the same price range.
System Name | 4K-gaming / media-PC |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 5800X / Intel Core i7-6700K |
Motherboard | Asus ROG Crosshair VII Hero / Asus Z170-K |
Cooling | Alphacool Eisbaer 360 / Alphacool Eisbaer 240 |
Memory | 32GB DDR4-3466 / 16GB DDR4-3000 |
Video Card(s) | Asus RTX 3080 TUF OC / Powercolor RX 6700 XT |
Storage | 3.3TB of SSDs / several small SSDs |
Display(s) | Acer 27" 4K120 IPS + Lenovo 32" 4K60 IPS |
Case | Corsair 4000D AF White / DeepCool CC560 WH |
Audio Device(s) | Sony WH-CN720N |
Power Supply | EVGA G2 750W / Fractal ION Gold 550W |
Mouse | Logitech MX518 / Logitech G400s |
Keyboard | Roccat Vulcan 121 AIMO / NOS C450 Mini Pro |
VR HMD | Oculus Rift CV1 |
Software | Windows 11 Pro / Windows 11 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | They run Crysis |
We can't know yet but I have a feeling that AM4 won't die yet. Just a pure guess.A smaller die should allow for more leeway for a higher stacked cache capacity on a 5600X/5700X chip derivatives. AMD should should do Zen 3 5600X/5900X models with X3D and later add Zen 4 models for 5700X/5950X with X3D. That would allow for models to launch earlier and slightly later, but gives wiggle room compete compellingly with current Alder Lake models and Raptor Lake models arriving later as drop in replacements for AM4.
System Name | 4K-gaming / media-PC |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 5800X / Intel Core i7-6700K |
Motherboard | Asus ROG Crosshair VII Hero / Asus Z170-K |
Cooling | Alphacool Eisbaer 360 / Alphacool Eisbaer 240 |
Memory | 32GB DDR4-3466 / 16GB DDR4-3000 |
Video Card(s) | Asus RTX 3080 TUF OC / Powercolor RX 6700 XT |
Storage | 3.3TB of SSDs / several small SSDs |
Display(s) | Acer 27" 4K120 IPS + Lenovo 32" 4K60 IPS |
Case | Corsair 4000D AF White / DeepCool CC560 WH |
Audio Device(s) | Sony WH-CN720N |
Power Supply | EVGA G2 750W / Fractal ION Gold 550W |
Mouse | Logitech MX518 / Logitech G400s |
Keyboard | Roccat Vulcan 121 AIMO / NOS C450 Mini Pro |
VR HMD | Oculus Rift CV1 |
Software | Windows 11 Pro / Windows 11 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | They run Crysis |
And why not, probably not impossible. Wondering how much that benefits in heavy usage like in workstation/server usage..Porting Zen 4 with 3D stacked cache to TRX40 is something that could very interesting for AMD to do.
System Name | Red Devil |
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Processor | AMD 5950x - Vermeer - B0 |
Motherboard | Gigabyte X570 AORUS MASTER |
Cooling | NZXT Kraken Z73 360mm; 14 x Corsair QL 120mm RGB Case Fans |
Memory | G.SKill Trident Z Neo 32GB Kit DDR4-3600 CL14 (F4-3600C14Q-32GTZNB) |
Video Card(s) | PowerColor's Red Devil Radeon RX 6900 XT (Navi 21 XTX) |
Storage | 1 x Western Digital SN850 1GB; 1 x WD Black SN850X 4TB; 1 x Samsung SSD 870EVO 2TB |
Display(s) | 1 x MSI MPG 321URX QD-OLED 4K; 2 x Asus VG27AQL1A |
Case | Corsair Obsidian 1000D |
Audio Device(s) | Raz3r Nommo V2 Pro ; Steel Series Arctis Nova Pro X Wireless (XBox Version) |
Power Supply | AX1500i Digital ATX - 1500w - 80 Plus Titanium |
Mouse | Razer Basilisk V3 |
Keyboard | Razer Huntsman V2 - Optical Gaming Keyboard |
Software | Windows 11 |
Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D |
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Motherboard | ASUS B550M-Plus WiFi II |
Cooling | Noctua U12A chromax.black |
Memory | Corsair Vengeance 32GB 3600Mhz |
Video Card(s) | Palit RTX 4080 GameRock OC |
Storage | Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1TB + 980 Pro 2TB |
Display(s) | Acer Nitro XV271UM3B IPS 180Hz |
Case | Asus Prime AP201 |
Audio Device(s) | Creative Gigaworks - Razer Blackshark V2 Pro |
Power Supply | Corsair SF750 |
Mouse | Razer Viper |
Keyboard | Asus ROG Falchion |
Software | Windows 11 64bit |
Nvidia, AMD, and Apple are all reportedly cutting their wafer orders from TSMC as people put less priority on buying the latest electronic goods in light of rising global inflation.
According to a report by DigiTimes, translated by RetiredEngineer, three of TSMC's major customers—Apple, Nvidia, and AMD—are looking to revise their orders.
System Name | Red Devil |
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Processor | AMD 5950x - Vermeer - B0 |
Motherboard | Gigabyte X570 AORUS MASTER |
Cooling | NZXT Kraken Z73 360mm; 14 x Corsair QL 120mm RGB Case Fans |
Memory | G.SKill Trident Z Neo 32GB Kit DDR4-3600 CL14 (F4-3600C14Q-32GTZNB) |
Video Card(s) | PowerColor's Red Devil Radeon RX 6900 XT (Navi 21 XTX) |
Storage | 1 x Western Digital SN850 1GB; 1 x WD Black SN850X 4TB; 1 x Samsung SSD 870EVO 2TB |
Display(s) | 1 x MSI MPG 321URX QD-OLED 4K; 2 x Asus VG27AQL1A |
Case | Corsair Obsidian 1000D |
Audio Device(s) | Raz3r Nommo V2 Pro ; Steel Series Arctis Nova Pro X Wireless (XBox Version) |
Power Supply | AX1500i Digital ATX - 1500w - 80 Plus Titanium |
Mouse | Razer Basilisk V3 |
Keyboard | Razer Huntsman V2 - Optical Gaming Keyboard |
Software | Windows 11 |
The AM5 platform will have X3D parts out this year too! Based on their rumored clock speeds, they could possibly trounce the AM4 parts. I for one will skipping the Zen 4 chips regardless. Zen 5 is what has me truly excited, but I would do a "mini-upgrade" to hold move over till then. In short, its a brilliant idea if AMD does go this route.It's suicide to release more 3Ds or Zen 4 or anything for the AM4 platform while the AM5 is due to be released in a couple of months.
The only reason of doing something like that, is probably the current economic situation globally.
If AMD does that though, they may release a 5600X3D soon, for those who don't want to or can't pay for a 5800X3D or AM5 and a 5900X3D some months after the release of ZEN 4, although I highly doubt that.
Processor | i7 12700K |
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Motherboard | MSI PRO Z690-A WIFI DDR4 |
Cooling | Noctua NH-U14S |
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 4400Mhz CL19 1T |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon 6700 XT |
Storage | 970 EVO 250GB|Crucial m4 128GB|MX300 525GB|MX500 1TB|PNY XLR8 2TB|Kingston NV2 2TB|14TB HDD|4TB HDD |
Display(s) | Acer XG270HU 27" 1440p 144Hz |
Case | Fractal Design DEFINE R4 Black Pearl Window |
Audio Device(s) | Creative Sound Blaster Z |
Power Supply | Corsair RM850x |
Mouse | Razer Naga Trinity |
Keyboard | EVGA Z15 RGB Mechanical Gaming Keyboard |
Software | Windows 11 Pro 64bit |
System Name | Red Devil |
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Processor | AMD 5950x - Vermeer - B0 |
Motherboard | Gigabyte X570 AORUS MASTER |
Cooling | NZXT Kraken Z73 360mm; 14 x Corsair QL 120mm RGB Case Fans |
Memory | G.SKill Trident Z Neo 32GB Kit DDR4-3600 CL14 (F4-3600C14Q-32GTZNB) |
Video Card(s) | PowerColor's Red Devil Radeon RX 6900 XT (Navi 21 XTX) |
Storage | 1 x Western Digital SN850 1GB; 1 x WD Black SN850X 4TB; 1 x Samsung SSD 870EVO 2TB |
Display(s) | 1 x MSI MPG 321URX QD-OLED 4K; 2 x Asus VG27AQL1A |
Case | Corsair Obsidian 1000D |
Audio Device(s) | Raz3r Nommo V2 Pro ; Steel Series Arctis Nova Pro X Wireless (XBox Version) |
Power Supply | AX1500i Digital ATX - 1500w - 80 Plus Titanium |
Mouse | Razer Basilisk V3 |
Keyboard | Razer Huntsman V2 - Optical Gaming Keyboard |
Software | Windows 11 |
That is intriguing. Its still $449 for both on the US page.I think there is something wrong with the prices
I guess every weeks they just put random numbers for their prices just for fun.
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I can't wait to see the 5600X3D at the 5700X price at launch then with random numbers for price xD
Processor | i7 12700K |
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Motherboard | MSI PRO Z690-A WIFI DDR4 |
Cooling | Noctua NH-U14S |
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 4400Mhz CL19 1T |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon 6700 XT |
Storage | 970 EVO 250GB|Crucial m4 128GB|MX300 525GB|MX500 1TB|PNY XLR8 2TB|Kingston NV2 2TB|14TB HDD|4TB HDD |
Display(s) | Acer XG270HU 27" 1440p 144Hz |
Case | Fractal Design DEFINE R4 Black Pearl Window |
Audio Device(s) | Creative Sound Blaster Z |
Power Supply | Corsair RM850x |
Mouse | Razer Naga Trinity |
Keyboard | EVGA Z15 RGB Mechanical Gaming Keyboard |
Software | Windows 11 Pro 64bit |
This is weird.That is intriguing. Its still $449 for both on the US page.
System Name | Red Devil |
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Processor | AMD 5950x - Vermeer - B0 |
Motherboard | Gigabyte X570 AORUS MASTER |
Cooling | NZXT Kraken Z73 360mm; 14 x Corsair QL 120mm RGB Case Fans |
Memory | G.SKill Trident Z Neo 32GB Kit DDR4-3600 CL14 (F4-3600C14Q-32GTZNB) |
Video Card(s) | PowerColor's Red Devil Radeon RX 6900 XT (Navi 21 XTX) |
Storage | 1 x Western Digital SN850 1GB; 1 x WD Black SN850X 4TB; 1 x Samsung SSD 870EVO 2TB |
Display(s) | 1 x MSI MPG 321URX QD-OLED 4K; 2 x Asus VG27AQL1A |
Case | Corsair Obsidian 1000D |
Audio Device(s) | Raz3r Nommo V2 Pro ; Steel Series Arctis Nova Pro X Wireless (XBox Version) |
Power Supply | AX1500i Digital ATX - 1500w - 80 Plus Titanium |
Mouse | Razer Basilisk V3 |
Keyboard | Razer Huntsman V2 - Optical Gaming Keyboard |
Software | Windows 11 |
I just looked up Germany's and its 514,40€. They must be applying VAT.This is weird.