AMD Releases Adrenalin 22.6.1 Legacy Software for Older GPUs

[eidairaman1]

Not really, AMD damned itself when they killed the Fury series while Nvidia still supports in mainline drivers the Maxwell series, anything else is just their own damn decision. To be honest, if we want to talk about driver supports, I think they'd better release those improved OpenGL drivers that will make life easier to any Minecraft player, before we even begin talking about AMD dropping users of old GPUs in the cold.

Fury wasn't that popular of a card to begin with (4G of HBM where as R9 290X/390/390X had 8G of ram.

"....Legacy branch drivers correct outstanding bugs, security vulnerabilities, and some other software-level updates...." It took so many months/years for the developers to understand what the heck they are coding for

They separated the drivers out to reduce complexity of code in a single package, good on them

"....Legacy branch drivers correct outstanding bugs, security vulnerabilities, and some other software-level updates...." It took so many months/years for the developers to understand what the heck they are coding for

They separated the drivers out to reduce complexity of code in a single package, good on them

This is excellent! I still rock an R9 380X in a Windows 10 system I use for playing old games on a CRT. The R9 380X was the last AMD GPU with DVI-I analog out so it can plug directly into an analog VGA monitor.

Im surprised you even have a Tonga, DVI-I is digital/Analog.

DVI-D is Digital only, DVI-A is analog only.

 

[mechtech]

It would be nice if motherboard makers would do this...........as in, update the bios once every 2 yrs or so after the board is 3 years old.

 

[eidairaman1]

It would be nice if motherboard makers would do this...........as in, update the bios once every 2 yrs or so after the board is 3 years old.

Some mobos have major glitches

 

[RedBear]

Fury wasn't that popular of a card to begin with (4G of HBM where as R9 290X/390/390X had 8G of ram.

Yeah and I'm sure that those Fury buyers who saw their GPUs reaching end of driver support before contemporary Nvidia alternatives will totally buy another AMD GPU and try their luck, again, with AMD's shitty driver support, because what is life without some fun? I'm especially thinking about those who bought used Fury GPUs during the crypto frenzy, hoping that they might help them for a while, exactly because of those 4GB of VRAM that made those GPUs unattractive to miners, just to discover that AMD would end its driver support in June 2021.[/SARCASM]

 

[eidairaman1]

Yeah and I'm sure that those Fury buyers who saw their GPUs reaching end of driver support before contemporary Nvidia alternatives will totally buy another AMD GPU and try their luck, again, with AMD's shitty driver support, because what is life without some fun? I'm especially thinking about those who bought used Fury GPUs during the crypto frenzy, hoping that they might help them for a while, exactly because of those 4GB of VRAM that made those GPUs unattractive to miners, just to discover that AMD would end its driver support in June 2021.[/SARCASM]

Also Miners dgaf about the ram as I restored plenty of RX 400/500 4G cards that were abused by them.

 

[Guwapo77]

Yeah and I'm sure that those Fury buyers who saw their GPUs reaching end of driver support before contemporary Nvidia alternatives will totally buy another AMD GPU and try their luck, again, with AMD's shitty driver support, because what is life without some fun? I'm especially thinking about those who bought used Fury GPUs during the crypto frenzy, hoping that they might help them for a while, exactly because of those 4GB of VRAM that made those GPUs unattractive to miners, just to discover that AMD would end its driver support in June 2021.[/SARCASM]

Seriously, you either have to be a masochist or a seriously deranged AMD fanboy, if you think that what AMD did was acceptable/tolerable/understandable/proper.

As an owner of two Fury X's that I bought seven years ago, I will be honest, I was rather shocked by the driver support stoppage. I don't remember the last time AMD did something like that, but I understood why. I bought a 6900XT to replace them as they weren't enough for my needs anyways. I will say this, if they pull something like that again in another couple of years, I'll be going hashtag TeamGreen4MyGPUNeeds.

 

[Ahhzz]

Further insults will result in points and loss of posting privileges. This notice does not preempt any repurcussions of previous behavior.

In other words, keep it up kids, and you'll not be posting for a bit. For some of you, that will happen anyway because you know better. Find the topic, stick to it, respectfully, or don't post.

 

[AsRock]

As an owner of two Fury X's that I bought seven years ago, I will be honest, I was rather shocked by the driver support stoppage. I don't remember the last time AMD did something like that, but I understood why. I bought a 6900XT to replace them as they weren't enough for my needs anyways. I will say this, if they pull something like that again in another couple of years, I'll be going hashtag TeamGreen4MyGPUNeeds.

Not as short as Fury but they have done.

 

[Dr. Dro]

Yeah and I'm sure that those Fury buyers who saw their GPUs reaching end of driver support before contemporary Nvidia alternatives will totally buy another AMD GPU and try their luck, again, with AMD's shitty driver support, because what is life without some fun? I'm especially thinking about those who bought used Fury GPUs during the crypto frenzy, hoping that they might help them for a while, exactly because of those 4GB of VRAM that made those GPUs unattractive to miners, just to discover that AMD would end its driver support in June 2021.[/SARCASM]

Seriously, you either have to be a masochist or a seriously deranged AMD fanboy, if you think that what AMD did was acceptable/tolerable/understandable/proper.

There's no need to be that harsh, that would very well apply to me as well, and I consider myself a long time AMD fan. But it is precisely because I like AMD that I criticize it. Some TPU old timers would know me from a place that's arguably the heart of Radeon fandom, and it's because of them that I joined

I see my earlier opinion of this release not being worthy of praise hasn't been exactly popular, but I suppose people are just happy they were thought of, after all, AMD had no obligation towards them anymore, which is fine, understandable... but I personally believe that AMD should match or exceed NVIDIA's support, especially considering the situation that the market found itself at the time, and that their hardware architecture is modern enough and that GCN matches the requirements for DirectX 12 gaming. Something that Kepler could never deliver, and it's seen today as the HD 7970 (GTX 680 contemporary) easily outperforms the GTX 780 Ti, which is a much faster graphics card, at least on paper.

If you ask of me, the 8-10 years of GRDs provided by NV are really respectful of the consumer's purchase, imo, and is a similar life cycle to a gaming console. This is my reasoning, and I hope it clears it all up a bit.

 

[RedBear]

but I understood why.

Mind to explain it to everyone else? I'm honestly curious. Dropping support for a GPU that was still kind of usable in the middle of a GPU supply crisis wasn't exactly a nice move, just to use a little euphemism and avoid the ire of our zealous moderators. Also, did you pay above MSRP for your RX 6900 XT or were you lucky enough to grab one at MSRP back then?

Also Miners dgaf about the ram as I restored plenty of RX 400/500 4G cards that were abused by them.

This would just mean that AMD also lied about their reasoning for the 4GB-only 6500 XT/6400 being an anti mining "feature", another example of bad conduct towards their customers. One that most AMD fans will gladly defend nevertheless.

 

[Lew Zealand]

This would just mean that AMD also lied about their reasoning for the 4GB-only 6500 XT/6400 being an anti mining "feature", another example of bad conduct towards their customers. One that most AMD fans will gladly defend nevertheless.

This depends on timing. If he's referring to the last mining craze in 2017-2018, work files still fit in 3GB VRAM buffers so even the 3GB 1060 was a reasonable option though by the end of that time, 3GB had been exceeded. 4GB was of course just fine so any 470 to 580 was fair game, and remember that the Polaris GPUs mined much better than Pascal at that time. Which is why I have a 1060 instead of an 580: it was half the price.

 

[RedBear]

This depends on timing. If he's referring to the last mining craze in 2017-2018, work files still fit in 3GB VRAM buffers so even the 3GB 1060 was a reasonable option though by the end of that time, 3GB had been exceeded. 4GB was of course just fine so any 470 to 580 was fair game, and remember that the Polaris GPUs mined much better than Pascal at that time. Which is why I have a 1060 instead of an 580: it was half the price.

I think he was referring to the latest mining craze, it was in the context of the R9 Fury not being supported since Adrenalin 21.6.1. There are some other algorithms that can be still mined with 4GB GPUs, so it wouldn't completely surprise me if there was actually people doing it at the peak of the cryptos bubble... on the other hand, another possibility is that those old GPUs were abused during the previous mining craze, just like you hypothesised, but have been re-sold (and found their ways to eidairaman1's repair efforts) only during the latest one, because the crazy market that we had made even semi-useless and half broken GPUs quite profitable.

EDIT: In part it's hard to understand the whole context because the post has been edited and I didn't read the insulting (?) part that has been removed.

 

[Mussels]

I dont have anything older than an RX570 around any more, but i really appreciate this - a lot of OEM systems and laptops will benefit from an updated legacy driver

 

[Guwapo77]

Mind to explain it to everyone else? I'm honestly curious. Dropping support for a GPU that was still kind of usable in the middle of a GPU supply crisis wasn't exactly a nice move, just to use a little euphemism and avoid the ire of our zealous moderators. Also, did you pay above MSRP for your RX 6900 XT or were you lucky enough to grab one at MSRP back then?

This would just mean that AMD also lied about their reasoning for the 4GB-only 6500 XT/6400 being an anti mining "feature", another example of bad conduct towards their customers. One that most AMD fans will gladly defend nevertheless.

Fairly simple in my opinion, AMD graphics division isn't large so they migrated their GCN staff over to RDNA. Makes sense to me, consolidate your team and produce a stellar product. As for the 6900XT, I got Red Devil two months after it launched in Feb '21 and I picked it up for 1300€ (Actually listed higher, but I don't pay German VAT, thankfully). I missed the initial batch and as soon as I saw the restock I was on it.

 

[AsRock]

Well thought i would check if the refresh issue is there still and yup still doing it.

 

[Athlonite]

Well thought i would check if the refresh issue is there still and yup still doing it.


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What connection are you using from GPU to Monitor and the R9 390 may have a lower level of HDMI and DP that doesn't support 4K 60Hz ie: Not enough bandwidth
1x HDMI 1.4a
1x DisplayPort 1.2
Check out the PDF where it states that HDMI 1.4 only supports 3840x2160p at upto 30Hz

Support for 4K format What does 4K refer to? 4K is a term used to describe displays with resolutions that are essentially four times that of a 1080p device – or roughly 4,000 lines wide by 2,000 lines high.
The HDMI 1.4 specification supports multiple 4K formats:
 3840 pixels wide by 2160 pixels high @ 24Hz | 25Hz | 30Hz
 4096 pixels wide by 2160 pixels high @ 24H

Displayport 1.2
up to 3840×2400 at 60Hz

so you may want to use the Displayport connector instead of HDMI

 

[Mussels]

Well thought i would check if the refresh issue is there still and yup still doing it.


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Well yeah, you cant run 4:4:4 on older HDMI standards

drop it to 4:2:0 and it should work, even my GTX 750 can do 4K 60hz with that - or if your card has newer DP standards than the HDMI, you can use an active DP to HDMI adaptor

 

[AsRock]

What connection are you using from GPU to Monitor and the R9 390 may have a lower level of HDMI and DP that doesn't support 4K 60Hz ie: Not enough bandwidth
1x HDMI 1.4a
1x DisplayPort 1.2
Check out the PDF where it states that HDMI 1.4 only supports 3840x2160p at upto 30Hz

Support for 4K format What does 4K refer to? 4K is a term used to describe displays with resolutions that are essentially four times that of a 1080p device – or roughly 4,000 lines wide by 2,000 lines high.
The HDMI 1.4 specification supports multiple 4K formats:
 3840 pixels wide by 2160 pixels high @ 24Hz | 25Hz | 30Hz
 4096 pixels wide by 2160 pixels high @ 24H

Displayport 1.2
up to 3840×2400 at 60Hz

so you may want to use the Displayport connector instead of HDMI

Yes i know the HDMI is only 1.2 and DP is 1.2 and only 4k 60Hz can be done with DP, so HDMI is not a option.

Well yeah, you cant run 4:4:4 on older HDMI standards

drop it to 4:2:0 and it should work, even my GTX 750 can do 4K 60hz with that - or if your card has newer DP standards than the HDMI, you can use an active DP to HDMI adaptor

Works perfectly fine with older drivers, like i believe i said about August 2019 they broke it.


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[Athlonite]

Yes i know the HDMI is only 1.2 and DP is 1.2 and only 4k 60Hz can be done with DP, so HDMI is not a option.





Works perfectly fine with older drivers, like i believe i said about August 2019 they broke it.


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There is a Windows 10 driver for your monitor on LG's website ::: https://gscs-b2c.lge.com/downloadFile?fileId=qrMiv2Tq9DlYTEVjhx52g

I'd give that ago see how you get on

 

[AsRock]

There is a Windows 10 driver for your monitor on LG's website ::: https://gscs-b2c.lge.com/downloadFile?fileId=qrMiv2Tq9DlYTEVjhx52g

I'd give that ago see how you get on

Thanks, but i have tried that too.

 

[Mussels]

Yes i know the HDMI is only 1.2 and DP is 1.2 and only 4k 60Hz can be done with DP, so HDMI is not a option.





Works perfectly fine with older drivers, like i believe i said about August 2019 they broke it.


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Yeah the default changed to RGB
Go change it back to 4:4:4

 

[AsRock]

Yeah the default changed to RGB
Go change it back to 4:4:4

That's just it the option is no longer there going though DP to HDMI. If i directly connect with HDMI yes that option is there.

unless i got the wrong page or some thing in the radeon software. I only get the 8 10 and 12 bit option ( which revert back to 8 so).

And then there is this

https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/dh-008

NOTE! The Color Depth option is only available if connected via Dual-Link DVI or DisplayPort. Adapters or converters are not supported.

EDIT: Option is gone.

 

[Mussels]

Whats the specs of your DP to HDMI adaptor?

Have you tried multiple HDMI ports on the television? My sony for example has a toggle for HDMI 1 and 2 only, that enables 4k HDR - and that setting is what enables RGB vs 420/444. A similar setting on your TV could need be set to off to force it to 444 instead of RGB, and you need to be sure you're on a 60Hz capable port

 

[Athlonite]

Whats the specs of your DP to HDMI adaptor?
and you need to be sure you're on a 60Hz capable port

basically that's what I said DP to DP should give you 2160p 60Hz whereas DP to HDMI probably not

if you have DP on the GPU and Monitor then use it instead of HDMI or DP to HDMI

But Asrock said he'd already tried it so

the only other thing I'd suggest is try the pro drivers on the R9 390 from here https://drivers.amd.com/drivers/prographics/win10-radeon-pro-software-enterprise-21.q1.2.exe

 

[snp688]

I had the same problem with R9 280x and 4k screen.
1. Need to have a good miniDP hdmi cable.
2. Needs a custom resolution anyway. Otherwise it's 30hz only.