Intel "Meteor Lake" to Debut Xe-LPG iGPU and Crestmont E-cores

[btarunr]

Intel's next-generation Core "Meteor Lake" processors will debut the new Xe-LPG graphics architecture for its iGPU. A successor to the Xe-LP architecture powering iGPUs since 11th Gen Core "Tiger Lake," the Xe-LPG graphics architecture is tailored for small-scale GPU designs such as iGPUs. It sheds much of the bulk that the Xe-HPG has, which is optimized for discrete GPU designs. A leaked block diagram of "Meteor Lake" describes Xe-LPG as featuring a new "extended gaming mode," new Adaptix power sharing, which is probably a power-management optimization that prioritizes power share to the iGPU; and even more media encode acceleration capabilities.

The Core "Meteor Lake" compute tile will also feature the latest Gaussian Network Accelerator, GNA 3.5, which speeds up AI deep-learning neural net building and training. The chip features a purpose-build VPU (visual processing unit), similar to the ones in mobile SoCs, which improves the device's ability to recognize faces, or even augmented-reality applications. Lastly, with "Meteor Lake," Intel is debuting the new "Crestmont" E-core clusters that introduce an IPC improvement over the "Gracemont" E-cores powering "Alder Lake" and "Raptor Lake."



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[Tek-Check]

I cannot believe that a display engine on CPU still retains six year old eDP 1.4b, without moving to modernised eDP 1.5 for more smooth media play, panel replay and more power saving.

 

[Gungar]

I cannot believe that a display engine on CPU still retains six year old eDP 1.4b, without moving to modernised eDP 1.5 for more smooth media play, panel replay and more power saving.

You don't understand, we need more Crapmont cores, that's more important !

 

[Tek-Check]

It was supposed to be 192 EUs on iGP. Intel showed us this on a slide a few months ago. Now it turns out it's only 128 EUs. What's going on?

 

[Deleted member 24505]

What does it matter, the iGPU is only a backup or for extra displays, you are not going to actually game on it are you.

 

[Chrispy_]

What does it matter, the iGPU is only a backup or for extra displays, you are not going to actually game on it are you.

It matters on the U-series, since they won't get a dGPU.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

It matters on the U-series, since they won't get a dGPU.

Aah ok

 

[eidairaman1]

And yet again, no arc.

 

[defaultluser]

It was supposed to be 192 EUs on iGP. Intel showed us this on a slide a few months ago. Now it turns out it's only 128 EUs. What's going on?

Because, they still can't go much larger than current Tiger Lake 8c on 7nm without effecting yields.

And, I imagine the big desktop CPU's will still be limited to 32 EUs?

 

[Vayra86]

Another push on Xe and still no arc. Wow, Intel. You have balls. Empty balls.

 

[Dranzule]

Because, they still can't go much larger than current Tiger Lake 8c on 7nm without effecting yields.

And, I imagine the big desktop CPU's will still be limited to 32 EUs?

Some sources point to it being boosted to 64EU. But don't quote me onto that.

 

[ModEl4]

It was supposed to be 192 EUs on iGP. Intel showed us this on a slide a few months ago. Now it turns out it's only 128 EUs. What's going on?

I tried to find the official Intel slide but i couldn't.
i also read about it in some site, i can't remember where, but i don't remember if it was from Intel officially.
If you have a link please share.

 

[Minus Infinity]

Don't forget Meteor Lake is focusing on mobile first and Meteor Lake S probably won't ship until 2024 as Meteor Lake mobile is only H2 2023. By then Meteor Lake will be up against Zen 5 and RDNA3 iGPU's in the non-APU desktop chips. Intel's timetable is continuing slip with possibility Raptor LAke volume shipments won't start until Q1 2023. Limited release in November at best. Zen 4 is right on track for around October.

 

[Tek-Check]

I tried to find the official Intel slide but i couldn't.
i also read about it in some site, i can't remember where, but i don't remember if it was from Intel officially.
If you have a link please share.

Plenty of articles on usual websites showed Intel's slides, such as this one. The tile alaways shows 96 - 192 EUs.

Intel shows off 14th Gen Core "Meteor Lake" mobile packages at Vision conference - VideoCardz.com

Intel Meteor Lake showcased The ‘lucky’ 13th Gen Core “Raptor Lake” might have not been shown yet, but Intel is now taking pride in presenting not one but two packages for upcoming 14th Gen Core series, codenamed “Meteor Lake”. This product is not expected till 2023. The new architecture will...

videocardz.com

Intel's plan to stack an Arc GPU on its Meteor Lake CPUs will form 'a new class of graphics'

Intel's Raja Koduri is "super excited" about the performance and efficiency Arc will offer in future processors.

www.pcgamer.com

 

[ModEl4]

Plenty of articles on usual websites showed Intel's slides, such as this one. The tile alaways shows 96 - 192 EUs.

Intel shows off 14th Gen Core "Meteor Lake" mobile packages at Vision conference - VideoCardz.com

Intel Meteor Lake showcased The ‘lucky’ 13th Gen Core “Raptor Lake” might have not been shown yet, but Intel is now taking pride in presenting not one but two packages for upcoming 14th Gen Core series, codenamed “Meteor Lake”. This product is not expected till 2023. The new architecture will...

videocardz.com

Intel's plan to stack an Arc GPU on its Meteor Lake CPUs will form 'a new class of graphics'

Intel's Raja Koduri is "super excited" about the performance and efficiency Arc will offer in future processors.

www.pcgamer.com

Thanks!
lol, it was the same first photo i saw with Google search from my mobile, i should have applied zoom

 

[defaultluser]

Some sources point to it being boosted to 64EU. But don't quote me onto that.

So, in reality, it will be up to a beefy 40?

 

[Tek-Check]

So, in reality, it will be up to a beefy 40?

Very, very "beefy", indeed.

 

[Minxie]

All I want from Meteor Lake and Zen 5 is Microsoft Pluton as I doubt Zen 4 and Raptor Lake will have it.

You don't understand, we need more Crapmont cores, that's more important !

Still not done with the 'muh E-cores bad' tangent I see. Nothing has changed since I was last here...

 

[1s44c]

All I want from Meteor Lake and Zen 5 is Microsoft Pluton as I doubt Zen 4 and Raptor Lake will have it.


Still not done with the 'muh E-cores bad' tangent I see. Nothing has changed since I was last here...

Why would you ever want malware on your cpu? Pluton literally hands the keys to your CPU away, and the tech has already been breached in the xbox..

(Also e-cores are bad, because of them the golden cores are crippled and the cpu isn't any smaller than if Intel did the sane thing of just using a density optimized library)

 

[1s44c]

Because the traditional, easily attackable through driveby attacks TPM is so much more secure according to you? Pluton is similar to Secure Enclave or the Titan M2 chip. https://cutechri.xyz/#pluton

E-cores have been a good choice to pack in more cores while being restricted by die size, and it's what got Alder Lake many wins. It's a good solution until Meteor Lake's purported chiplet design.

Ah yes, lets take a bad technology that doesn't work and make it so that it has even more access to the system, with fused keys that can't be patched when vulnerabilities inevitably come out, and add in a healthy dose of monopolistic behavior from M$FT to make AMD/Intel add it. Sounds great.

Security processors have been an unmitigated disaster that should never have been taped out. The only people that stand to benefit (DRM enthusiasts), don't even benefit because it doesn't work and never will.

Also did I mention that Pluton is already cracked? It literally is no better than TPM at its job. Except it connects to Microsoft and you can't patch it. Massive security upgrade there.


Regarding the complexity cores, Intel should have taken golden cove and built it against area optimized cells. Same ~30% area reduction, but without the extra complexity and performance degradation.

 

[1s44c]

What the guy in the article misses is that when the keys are fused it doesn't matter what patches you apply, the keys are locked with whatever vulnerabilities Pluton has from the first time the processor is turned on (which is day one, because we all know how good Dell and HP are with prompt ucode updates, and even ASUS/MSI/Gigabyte take months for inventory to be updated)

 

[Tek-Check]

All I want from Meteor Lake and Zen 5 is Microsoft Pluton as I doubt Zen 4 and Raptor Lake will have it.


Still not done with the 'muh E-cores bad' tangent I see. Nothing has changed since I was last here...

Rembrandt APUs have Pluton now, if you need one.