High End NVIDIA GPU Prices on a Slippery Slope as RTX 3090 Ti Hits $1599

[medi01]

What I expect is:

Huang: yo, dumbos, 4080 is 5-10% faster than 3090Ti and you can have it for mere $1499!!! (FE for $1699)
Green folks: OMG
Huang: yo, dumbos, and certain RT shit you will ever barely run, it is up to 80% faster!!!!
(Digital Foundry loses its shit to cripple games in ways that some crap run 67% faster on it, claims "see, Huang wasn't lying, it is nearly 80% faster!" in a "very early preview, exclusive shill's edition")
Green folks: OMG OMG, so cheap, 80% faster, 25% cheaper, 3090Ti MSRP was $1999, thank you so much, have our money
Huang: (smiles)
Huang: And there is DLSSWTFBBQ 4.0 that can ONLY run on that new 4000 stuff
Green folks: OMG, it comes with even more feature
Green folks: (faint)

I hope AMD waits a little for this shit to actually unleash...

even below MSRP

OMG, used GPU for below MSRP price:

 

[nguyen]

You know the slope isn't slippery when the Strix 3070 Ti still costs €860.

Cheapest 3070Ti is 650usd here (VAT included) and the store is throwing a EVGA 700W broze PSU in to sweeten the deal

 

[AnarchoPrimitiv]

Has any actual controlled, empirical testing been conducted on former mining cards to verify that they've undergone permanent and perceivable degradation in performance? Such an experiment would be tremendously valuable to the PC DIY community. I'm personally looking to upgrade my 5700xt, probably to a 6800XT or even a 6900XT if there's a really good bargain to be had. I believe RDNA2 GPUs were not as popular as the RTX 3000 series for mining, and I'm willing to buy 2nd hand to get a good deal, but I'd like to avoid any potential issues...as anyone here ever actually used/purchased a former mining card? What was the experience?

Correct but people don't think like that. Most people are in denial about the reality of PC gaming.

Most PC gaming is done at 1080p 60hz. Which means that most people are fine with a 3050-3060 class card and do not need more. The 3070-3080 series cards slot you into a solid 144fps 144hz or higher at 1080p or get you into 1440p or ultrawide gaming. But that's not most people. The 3080ti is really targeting 4k which is niche, and 4k at 120/144hz is so rare it might as well not exist. Stuff like the 3090 and the Titan series only ever existed to sort of bridge the gap between workstations and desktops.

There are people (me raises hand) who do work at home and who's work platform would consist of a HEDT platform, with dual 10gb NICs, RAID cards, NAS, DAS, and the situation where a Titan or 3090 class card does matter. I can also write this stuff off on my taxes. But that's an edge of an edge case. In that situation cost doesn't matter. If it gets things done faster or more importantly is needed you buy it, claim it as an expense, and that's that.

Now nvidia used to be honest about this at the start. But then they saw that gamers were buying up Titan cards at a higher volume than the edge cases and the stupid started. First we had the gimping of several Titan features, then we had the silly Star Wars LEDs show up for both the Jedi and the Sith. Then we had "creator" drivers that opened up a few things on lower end cards along with branding geforce platforms as creator platforms, and then we had the debacle of the 3090 where they just sold it as a gaming card. But I can't really blame them. Gamers themselves wandered into this situation wide open and are now stuck with the consequences of it.

I'm not sure if AMD is still segregating their product stack as radeon, pro, and then firegl but they did that as well for a bit.

Kind of curious about your Networking setup, I have a home 10GBase-T network (Unless you're main PC is in the same room as your switch and server/NAS, I really see no advantage to SFP+ since you can't run DACs through your walls, transceivers are expensive, fiber is nowhere near as easy to work with as CAT6a, and SFP+ 10G NICs and switches are no longer cheaper than 10GBase-T as was the case several years ago), so I always wonder about different setups. What switch(es) are you running, and why the two NICs in one machine or do you mean a single, dual port NIC? Is it for link aggregation/teaming?

 

[wahdangun]

need another $800 price cut, its still insane

 

[AnarchoPrimitiv]

1600usd is still too much for something that would be obsolete in 3 months LOL.

I think "obsolete" is a huge overstatement... Outperformed, yes, obsolete, no. It's not as if as soon as the RTX 4000 /RDNA3 GPUs are released, the previous generation loses performance... in fact, once the new GPUs are released, I'd assume the old ones will see an even greater price drop and there will be some excellent deals to be had, e.g. a used 6900XT for $500 or even less

 

[erocker]

Nobody wants 1500 dollar gaming GPU's on a product with a yearly cycle. Nobody smart anyways.

 

[Hossein Almet]

The 6900XT has been on offer for A$1099 at the online store from where I normally buy computing stuffs for weeks now.

 

[Upgrayedd]

I feel sorry for poor saps who are not miners trying to sell these, how do you prove you are not selling an ex mining card. "shrug"

Y'kno I feel like there are some miners you shouldn't buy cards from. The ones who push them to the absolute edge. Then there's some who back it off from the limits and run them clean and cool.
Some miners stick at what they do like some gamers suck at owning cards. There's literally pc "gamer" cases with all glass front panels.

I'd rather buy a clean and taken care of mining card than gamer who let's their cat sleep on their pc cause the case is so warm cause there's a glass front panel choking their 3080.

 

[neatfeatguy]

A month back or so the 3080 10GB at MicroCenter were still all priced at $1k+, along with the 12GB models. I see some of them are under $900 now, even lower:

It's nice to see prices dropping, but they still need to come down. There is no reason they're still so high above MSRP, even if they are AIB models. The stuff isn't moving like it used to because crypto is kind of petering out, mining cards are going out in droves and many folks have upgraded already or are waiting for this gen to finally end (or prices to crash more).

 

[ppn]

When "open box" costs $100 more than new, you know somebody is desperate, Looks like Gigabyte and Asus are trying very hard to compete with the open boxes.

I strongly believe 4080 is 35% faster at least the transistor count of AD103 - 37 B would be 35% higher than GA102.
So nvidia could get away with pricing 4080 at 899-999 if they hold the line as it is. Hope they crash some more.

 

[Makaveli]

Wow so anyone that bought one of these on launch got screwed. As for the miners glad they are unable to move product they deserve that.

 

[R0H1T]

The 6900XT has been on offer for A$1099 at the online store from where I normally buy computing stuffs for weeks now.

We had a screaming deal for Asus LC 6900xt, roughly 600USD plus taxes. Just missed it last week

 

[Tomgang]

Still 1600 usd is still a lot for a gen of cards on it's last straw before it goes EOL status.

Besides it nuts to give 1600 for a gpu just for gaming. I would definitely prefer to pay half for lower tier card and just get a new card when next gen arrives.

 

[Steevo]

I member thinking that $700 was to much for a premium GPU and I still believe that. Salaries haven’t tripled since then either so other than lining the pockets of already wealthy companies so they can acquire more and get more greedy Im not sure why they should expect gamers to pay that price.

 

[trparky]

Let the crypto bros cry.

 

[r9]

Not dumping enough GPUs ... yet because the hope dies last but they'll all get there.
Finally put an end to this Crypto nonsense.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

clean and taken care of mining card

Do you provide a certificate to prove you are not a douche nozzle miner then and certify the card having been looked after? As i said in my post how is there any way to know, therefore unless you buy from someone you know, you have to assume they are a dirty scum miner palming a shit stain card off on you.

 

[Hossein Almet]

We had a screaming deal for Asus LC 6900xt, roughly 600USD plus taxes. Just missed it last week

Here The Asus LC 6900XT was (sold out) A$1299 (about U$700).

 

[Tek-Check]

This card will have to go down to $1000 to be interesting. Why? Would you pay $1000 for 4070Ti or 7750XT with similar claimed performance?

3090 Ti is not worth more than $1000 at this point of time. No one sane should pay more than a grand. On ebay, 3090 is already $800.

 

[trog100]

for what its worth.. i have been mining 11 or so 30xxx series cards for about a year now.. everyone of them still works exactly the same as it did when new..

i have no intentions of selling them at the moment.. i am still mining with them.. the current profits dont look good but via nicehash they are still producing bitcoin.. i could be wrong but i assume in the future bitcoin will go up in price..

for me its the future that matters not the now.. but that is just me..

my gaming machine has a 3070 in it.. at 1440p a 3070 is more than enough for me.. i have no need for any 40xxxx series card.. i doubt many other people have ether when it comes down to it.. he he..

trog

 

[Makaveli]

We had a screaming deal for Asus LC 6900xt, roughly 600USD plus taxes. Just missed it last week

wow where was this deal?

Still way over priced in Canada.

This looks to be a better offer but hard to find.

 

[stimpy88]

I wouldn't buy a mining card. You have no idea how it has been treated, and I also remember nGreedia and it's AIB not putting thermal pads on memory modules... So, nah, no way. nGreedia, go fish.

 

[xtreemchaos]

im waiting untill they give them away when we buy a game. no but truthfully i carnt see me getting one because of the power draw is silly in a time when we are "trying to save the planet" my limit is 200 to 250w which my 2080 rarely hits.

 

[Bomby569]

still way overpriced and over MSRP in the EU in most countries

 

[Solaris17]

Weird statistics I literally have no interest in buying cards from miners ever. I hope they have to stare at the “investments” sitting on their shelves collecting dust for a long time to come.