- Joined
- Jul 5, 2013
- Messages
- 26,230 (6.46/day)
Yeah, them too.Hi,
No I was referring to cereberus.
Yeah, them too.Hi,
No I was referring to cereberus.
System Name | Ghetto Rigs z490|x99|Acer 17 Nitro 7840hs/ 5600c40-2x16/ 4060/ 1tb acer stock m.2/ 4tb sn850x |
---|---|
Processor | 10900k w/Optimus Foundation | 5930k w/Black Noctua D15 |
Motherboard | z490 Maximus XII Apex | x99 Sabertooth |
Cooling | oCool D5 res-combo/280 GTX/ Optimus Foundation/ gpu water block | Blk D15 |
Memory | Trident-Z Royal 4000c16 2x16gb | Trident-Z 3200c14 4x8gb |
Video Card(s) | Titan Xp-water | evga 980ti gaming-w/ air |
Storage | 970evo+500gb & sn850x 4tb | 860 pro 256gb | Acer m.2 1tb/ sn850x 4tb| Many2.5" sata's ssd 3.5hdd's |
Display(s) | 1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24"/ 3rd LG 43" series |
Case | D450 | Cherry Entertainment center on Test bench |
Audio Device(s) | Built in Realtek x2 with 2-Insignia 2.0 sound bars & 1-LG sound bar |
Power Supply | EVGA 1000P2 with APC AX1500 | 850P2 with CyberPower-GX1325U |
Mouse | Redragon 901 Perdition x3 |
Keyboard | G710+x3 |
Software | Win-7 pro x3 and win-10 & 11pro x3 |
Benchmark Scores | Are in the benchmark section |
Hi,Yeah, them too.
System Name | latest-greatest |
---|---|
Processor | i7 12700K |
Motherboard | Z690 Rog Strix-E |
Cooling | Lian Li Galahad 360 |
Memory | corsair vengeance Ddr5 4800 |
Video Card(s) | 2080ti |
Storage | 980 pro gen4 |
Display(s) | LG C1 4K 120Mhz |
Case | fractal meshify2 |
Audio Device(s) | Realtec 4080 |
Power Supply | Corsair rm1000x |
I read that article and was not surprised. I have defender running on a new build and traditionally I disable it because I have ESET home internet (for many years now). I simply forgot to disable Defender on my new build and after looking at the eset review at av-test for Dec 2021, it's a perfect score. So, I think I'll disable defender unless someone with more knowledge can tell me why I would need it to supplement eset?go be wrong somewhere else lex
Test Microsoft Defender Antivirus (Consumer) 4.18 for Windows 10 (221213)
The current test Microsoft Defender Antivirus (Consumer) 4.18 for Windows 10 (221213) from April 2022 of AV-TEST, the leading international and independent service provider for antivirus software and malware.www.av-test.org
I have waning tolerance for idiots as I age please do your homework first defender has for years consistently been as good if not better then most solutions on the market the only recommendation I give other then defender is Avria or MBAM if the situation calls for a second option &
the amount of times I have run a scan with MBAM or AVRIA and they have found something that defender missed is ...... honestly can't tell you because I haven't seen it happen in person yet
Here is the eset review https://www.av-test.org/en/antiviru...mber-2021/eset-internet-security-15.0-211609/I read that article and was not surprised. I have defender running on a new build and traditionally I disable it because I have ESET home internet (for many years now). I simply forgot to disable Defender on my new build and after looking at the eset review at av-test for Dec 2021, it's a perfect score. So, I think I'll disable defender unless someone with more knowledge can tell me why I would need it to supplement eset?
System Name | Nebulon B |
---|---|
Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 7700X |
Motherboard | MSi PRO B650M-A WiFi |
Cooling | be quiet! Dark Rock 4 |
Memory | 2x 16 GB Corsair Vengeance EXPO DDR5-6000 |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon RX 6750 XT 12 GB |
Storage | 2 TB Corsair MP600 GS, 2 TB Corsair MP600 R2, 4 + 8 TB Seagate Barracuda 3.5" |
Display(s) | Dell S3422DWG, 7" Waveshare touchscreen |
Case | Kolink Citadel Mesh black |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech Z333 2.1 speakers, AKG Y50 headphones |
Power Supply | Seasonic Prime GX-750 |
Mouse | Logitech MX Master 2S |
Keyboard | Logitech G413 SE |
Software | Windows 10 Pro |
No one in their right mind will ever tell you to "supplement" an AV with another. Running more than one doesn't benefit you in any way, but can harm system performance.I read that article and was not surprised. I have defender running on a new build and traditionally I disable it because I have ESET home internet (for many years now). I simply forgot to disable Defender on my new build and after looking at the eset review at av-test for Dec 2021, it's a perfect score. So, I think I'll disable defender unless someone with more knowledge can tell me why I would need it to supplement eset?
Here is the eset review https://www.av-test.org/en/antiviru...mber-2021/eset-internet-security-15.0-211609/
System Name | latest-greatest |
---|---|
Processor | i7 12700K |
Motherboard | Z690 Rog Strix-E |
Cooling | Lian Li Galahad 360 |
Memory | corsair vengeance Ddr5 4800 |
Video Card(s) | 2080ti |
Storage | 980 pro gen4 |
Display(s) | LG C1 4K 120Mhz |
Case | fractal meshify2 |
Audio Device(s) | Realtec 4080 |
Power Supply | Corsair rm1000x |
Thank you for the advice.No one in their right mind will ever tell you to "supplement" an AV with another. Running more than one doesn't benefit you in any way, but can harm system performance.
Actually, defender is off, but windows 11 does report on ESET and Malware Bytes, so I was confused because the defender tray icon, although being off, isn't complaining like in windows 10. Windows 11 also gives the ability to have defender 'periodically' do a scan.Thank you for the advice.
Hi,
Yeah 10 was bad but 11 is far worse than that.
I just started removing pretender early this year mainly because I started using it a bit more.
System Name | Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load) |
---|---|
Processor | Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core) |
Motherboard | Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded) |
Cooling | Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate |
Memory | 2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V) |
Video Card(s) | Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W)) |
Storage | 2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2 |
Display(s) | Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) | Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) | Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144) |
Case | Fractal Design R6 |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech G560 | Corsair Void pro RGB |Blue Yeti mic |
Power Supply | Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY) |
Mouse | Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL |
Keyboard | Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps) |
VR HMD | Oculus Rift S + Quest 2 |
Software | Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware! |
Benchmark Scores | Nyooom. |
Enabling another AV disables defender, and has for longer than i can rememberThank you for the advice.
Actually, defender is off, but windows 11 does report on ESET and Malware Bytes, so I was confused because the defender tray icon, although being off, isn't complaining like in windows 10. Windows 11 also gives the ability to have defender 'periodically' do a scan.
While true, the services keep running and using system resources. It's best to remove it in favor of a replacement.Enabling another AV disables defender, and has for longer than i can remember
System Name | Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load) |
---|---|
Processor | Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core) |
Motherboard | Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded) |
Cooling | Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate |
Memory | 2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V) |
Video Card(s) | Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W)) |
Storage | 2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2 |
Display(s) | Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) | Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) | Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144) |
Case | Fractal Design R6 |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech G560 | Corsair Void pro RGB |Blue Yeti mic |
Power Supply | Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY) |
Mouse | Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL |
Keyboard | Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps) |
VR HMD | Oculus Rift S + Quest 2 |
Software | Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware! |
Benchmark Scores | Nyooom. |
but while inactive, it's not doing any scanning or triggering performance lossesWhile true, the services keep running and using system resources. It's best to remove it in favor of a replacement.
Anyone foolish/silly enough to be falling for such a scam is not someone who is going to go through the effort to remove Defender anyway, so that's a mute point. The task of removing Defender is for experienced users who know better that to be taken in by scams, not the technologically illiterate.but while inactive, it's not doing any scanning or triggering performance losses
It goes dormant to switch back on if your other AV is disabled (which genuinely is a good thing, as so many scams have instructions on "if you have problems, disable your AV..."
System Name | RyzenGtEvo/ Asus strix scar II |
---|---|
Processor | Amd R5 5900X/ Intel 8750H |
Motherboard | Crosshair hero8 impact/Asus |
Cooling | 360EK extreme rad+ 360$EK slim all push, cpu ek suprim Gpu full cover all EK |
Memory | Corsair Vengeance Rgb pro 3600cas14 16Gb in four sticks./16Gb/16GB |
Video Card(s) | Powercolour RX7900XT Reference/Rtx 2060 |
Storage | Silicon power 2TB nvme/8Tb external/1Tb samsung Evo nvme 2Tb sata ssd/1Tb nvme |
Display(s) | Samsung UAE28"850R 4k freesync.dell shiter |
Case | Lianli 011 dynamic/strix scar2 |
Audio Device(s) | Xfi creative 7.1 on board ,Yamaha dts av setup, corsair void pro headset |
Power Supply | corsair 1200Hxi/Asus stock |
Mouse | Roccat Kova/ Logitech G wireless |
Keyboard | Roccat Aimo 120 |
VR HMD | Oculus rift |
Software | Win 10 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | 8726 vega 3dmark timespy/ laptop Timespy 6506 |
I am pretty sure W1zzard disables defender, telemetry etc before benching, it's a plus for sure since it means all Tpu reviews right now are still valid.First, this is purely a microsoft coding problem. Second, it's been happening for donkey's years. You really expect them to patch it anytime soon?
Really makes one wonder about all the reviews and benchmarks we've seen over the years. This is one of the MANY reasons I remove defender from the systems I use.
What?!?
Seriously, you gotta hush your cakehole.
System Name | -aLiEn beaTs- |
---|---|
Processor | Intel i7 11700kf @ 5.055Ghz |
Motherboard | MSI Z490 Unify |
Cooling | Corsair H115i Pro RGB |
Memory | G.skill Royal Silver 4400 cl17 @ 4403mhz |
Video Card(s) | Zotac GTX 980TI AMP!Omega Factory OC 1418MHz |
Storage | Intel SSD 330, Crucial SSD MX300 & MX500 |
Display(s) | Samsung C24FG73 144HZ |
Case | CoolerMaster HAF 932 USB3.0 |
Audio Device(s) | X-Fi Titanium HD @ 2.1 Bose acoustimass 5 |
Power Supply | CoolerMaster 850W v2 gold atx 2.52 |
Mouse | Razer viper 8k |
Keyboard | Logitech G19s |
Software | Windows 11 Pro 21h2 64Bit |
Benchmark Scores | ► ♪♫♪♩♬♫♪♭ |
System Name | Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load) |
---|---|
Processor | Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core) |
Motherboard | Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded) |
Cooling | Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate |
Memory | 2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V) |
Video Card(s) | Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W)) |
Storage | 2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2 |
Display(s) | Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) | Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) | Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144) |
Case | Fractal Design R6 |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech G560 | Corsair Void pro RGB |Blue Yeti mic |
Power Supply | Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY) |
Mouse | Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL |
Keyboard | Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps) |
VR HMD | Oculus Rift S + Quest 2 |
Software | Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware! |
Benchmark Scores | Nyooom. |
He does, as do most serious reviewersI am pretty sure W1zzard disables defender, telemetry etc before benching, it's a plus for sure since it means all Tpu reviews right now are still valid.
Maybe someone else said this shrug.
Counter Control does not yet have an INI file but I will probably add one in the near future.delay in ini file, but there is no such file,
But that relegates the benchmarks to academic performance, not real world practical for everyday users.He does, as do most serious reviewers
System Name | Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load) |
---|---|
Processor | Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core) |
Motherboard | Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded) |
Cooling | Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate |
Memory | 2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V) |
Video Card(s) | Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W)) |
Storage | 2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2 |
Display(s) | Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) | Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) | Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144) |
Case | Fractal Design R6 |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech G560 | Corsair Void pro RGB |Blue Yeti mic |
Power Supply | Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY) |
Mouse | Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL |
Keyboard | Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps) |
VR HMD | Oculus Rift S + Quest 2 |
Software | Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware! |
Benchmark Scores | Nyooom. |
I brought this up in another thread as well about required softwareBut that relegates the benchmarks to academic performance, not real world practical for everyday users.
I mean are regular users going to disable defender & telemetry, etc.. just for the sake of performance on their systems?
But does he disable or remove?He does, as do most serious reviewers
System Name | Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load) |
---|---|
Processor | Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core) |
Motherboard | Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded) |
Cooling | Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate |
Memory | 2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V) |
Video Card(s) | Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W)) |
Storage | 2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2 |
Display(s) | Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) | Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) | Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144) |
Case | Fractal Design R6 |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech G560 | Corsair Void pro RGB |Blue Yeti mic |
Power Supply | Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY) |
Mouse | Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL |
Keyboard | Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps) |
VR HMD | Oculus Rift S + Quest 2 |
Software | Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware! |
Benchmark Scores | Nyooom. |
Unsure, it's documented on the forums somewhere - he has a guide on what he does and whyBut does he disable or remove?
Fair enough then.Unsure, it's documented on the forums somewhere - he has a guide on what he does and why
Windows 11 Tweaks for GPU Benchmark | TechPowerUp Forums
He disables
View attachment 255026
System Name | Ghetto Rigs z490|x99|Acer 17 Nitro 7840hs/ 5600c40-2x16/ 4060/ 1tb acer stock m.2/ 4tb sn850x |
---|---|
Processor | 10900k w/Optimus Foundation | 5930k w/Black Noctua D15 |
Motherboard | z490 Maximus XII Apex | x99 Sabertooth |
Cooling | oCool D5 res-combo/280 GTX/ Optimus Foundation/ gpu water block | Blk D15 |
Memory | Trident-Z Royal 4000c16 2x16gb | Trident-Z 3200c14 4x8gb |
Video Card(s) | Titan Xp-water | evga 980ti gaming-w/ air |
Storage | 970evo+500gb & sn850x 4tb | 860 pro 256gb | Acer m.2 1tb/ sn850x 4tb| Many2.5" sata's ssd 3.5hdd's |
Display(s) | 1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24"/ 3rd LG 43" series |
Case | D450 | Cherry Entertainment center on Test bench |
Audio Device(s) | Built in Realtek x2 with 2-Insignia 2.0 sound bars & 1-LG sound bar |
Power Supply | EVGA 1000P2 with APC AX1500 | 850P2 with CyberPower-GX1325U |
Mouse | Redragon 901 Perdition x3 |
Keyboard | G710+x3 |
Software | Win-7 pro x3 and win-10 & 11pro x3 |
Benchmark Scores | Are in the benchmark section |
Hi,But does he disable or remove?
System Name | -aLiEn beaTs- |
---|---|
Processor | Intel i7 11700kf @ 5.055Ghz |
Motherboard | MSI Z490 Unify |
Cooling | Corsair H115i Pro RGB |
Memory | G.skill Royal Silver 4400 cl17 @ 4403mhz |
Video Card(s) | Zotac GTX 980TI AMP!Omega Factory OC 1418MHz |
Storage | Intel SSD 330, Crucial SSD MX300 & MX500 |
Display(s) | Samsung C24FG73 144HZ |
Case | CoolerMaster HAF 932 USB3.0 |
Audio Device(s) | X-Fi Titanium HD @ 2.1 Bose acoustimass 5 |
Power Supply | CoolerMaster 850W v2 gold atx 2.52 |
Mouse | Razer viper 8k |
Keyboard | Logitech G19s |
Software | Windows 11 Pro 21h2 64Bit |
Benchmark Scores | ► ♪♫♪♩♬♫♪♭ |
Sure I would like to testCounter Control does not yet have an INI file but I will probably add one in the near future.
ThrottleStop 9.5.1 has a new INI file option so it will reset the timer and then immediately exit. Let me known in a message if you want to try that feature.
System Name | Nebulon B |
---|---|
Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 7700X |
Motherboard | MSi PRO B650M-A WiFi |
Cooling | be quiet! Dark Rock 4 |
Memory | 2x 16 GB Corsair Vengeance EXPO DDR5-6000 |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon RX 6750 XT 12 GB |
Storage | 2 TB Corsair MP600 GS, 2 TB Corsair MP600 R2, 4 + 8 TB Seagate Barracuda 3.5" |
Display(s) | Dell S3422DWG, 7" Waveshare touchscreen |
Case | Kolink Citadel Mesh black |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech Z333 2.1 speakers, AKG Y50 headphones |
Power Supply | Seasonic Prime GX-750 |
Mouse | Logitech MX Master 2S |
Keyboard | Logitech G413 SE |
Software | Windows 10 Pro |
Processor | 10850K |
---|---|
Motherboard | Apex XIII Z590 |
Cooling | Water |
Memory | 2*16 Gb G.Skill 3200 MHz CL14 14 14 34 Overclocked |
Video Card(s) | RTX3080 |
Display(s) | 2560*1440 Predator |
Power Supply | 1250W |