Windows Defender can Significantly Impact Intel CPU Performance, We have the Fix

[lexluthermiester]

Hi,
No I was referring to cereberus.

Yeah, them too.

 

[ThrashZone]

Yeah, them too.

Hi,
I know he uses a three headed dog but there is still just one of him so "them" don't apply

 

[skates]

go be wrong somewhere else lex

Test Microsoft Defender Antivirus (Consumer) 4.18 for Windows 10 (221213)

The current test Microsoft Defender Antivirus (Consumer) 4.18 for Windows 10 (221213) from April 2022 of AV-TEST, the leading international and independent service provider for antivirus software and malware.

www.av-test.org

I have waning tolerance for idiots as I age please do your homework first defender has for years consistently been as good if not better then most solutions on the market the only recommendation I give other then defender is Avria or MBAM if the situation calls for a second option &
the amount of times I have run a scan with MBAM or AVRIA and they have found something that defender missed is ...... honestly can't tell you because I haven't seen it happen in person yet

I read that article and was not surprised. I have defender running on a new build and traditionally I disable it because I have ESET home internet (for many years now). I simply forgot to disable Defender on my new build and after looking at the eset review at av-test for Dec 2021, it's a perfect score. So, I think I'll disable defender unless someone with more knowledge can tell me why I would need it to supplement eset?

I read that article and was not surprised. I have defender running on a new build and traditionally I disable it because I have ESET home internet (for many years now). I simply forgot to disable Defender on my new build and after looking at the eset review at av-test for Dec 2021, it's a perfect score. So, I think I'll disable defender unless someone with more knowledge can tell me why I would need it to supplement eset?

Here is the eset review https://www.av-test.org/en/antiviru...mber-2021/eset-internet-security-15.0-211609/

 

[AusWolf]

I read that article and was not surprised. I have defender running on a new build and traditionally I disable it because I have ESET home internet (for many years now). I simply forgot to disable Defender on my new build and after looking at the eset review at av-test for Dec 2021, it's a perfect score. So, I think I'll disable defender unless someone with more knowledge can tell me why I would need it to supplement eset?


Here is the eset review https://www.av-test.org/en/antiviru...mber-2021/eset-internet-security-15.0-211609/

No one in their right mind will ever tell you to "supplement" an AV with another. Running more than one doesn't benefit you in any way, but can harm system performance.

 

[skates]

No one in their right mind will ever tell you to "supplement" an AV with another. Running more than one doesn't benefit you in any way, but can harm system performance.

Thank you for the advice.

Thank you for the advice.

Actually, defender is off, but windows 11 does report on ESET and Malware Bytes, so I was confused because the defender tray icon, although being off, isn't complaining like in windows 10. Windows 11 also gives the ability to have defender 'periodically' do a scan.

 

[AsRock]

Hi,
Yeah 10 was bad but 11 is far worse than that.

I just started removing pretender early this year mainly because I started using it a bit more.

Dam now i got a queen song in my head.

 

[Mussels]

Thank you for the advice.


Actually, defender is off, but windows 11 does report on ESET and Malware Bytes, so I was confused because the defender tray icon, although being off, isn't complaining like in windows 10. Windows 11 also gives the ability to have defender 'periodically' do a scan.

Enabling another AV disables defender, and has for longer than i can remember

The tray icon etc are not the same as actively scanning or competing

 

[lexluthermiester]

Enabling another AV disables defender, and has for longer than i can remember

While true, the services keep running and using system resources. It's best to remove it in favor of a replacement.

 

[Mussels]

While true, the services keep running and using system resources. It's best to remove it in favor of a replacement.

but while inactive, it's not doing any scanning or triggering performance losses

It goes dormant to switch back on if your other AV is disabled (which genuinely is a good thing, as so many scams have instructions on "if you have problems, disable your AV..."

 

[lexluthermiester]

but while inactive, it's not doing any scanning or triggering performance losses

It goes dormant to switch back on if your other AV is disabled (which genuinely is a good thing, as so many scams have instructions on "if you have problems, disable your AV..."

Anyone foolish/silly enough to be falling for such a scam is not someone who is going to go through the effort to remove Defender anyway, so that's a mute point. The task of removing Defender is for experienced users who know better that to be taken in by scams, not the technologically illiterate.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

First, this is purely a microsoft coding problem. Second, it's been happening for donkey's years. You really expect them to patch it anytime soon?


Really makes one wonder about all the reviews and benchmarks we've seen over the years. This is one of the MANY reasons I remove defender from the systems I use.


What?!?

Seriously, you gotta hush your cakehole.

I am pretty sure W1zzard disables defender, telemetry etc before benching, it's a plus for sure since it means all Tpu reviews right now are still valid.

Maybe someone else said this shrug.

 

[TheHunter]

Well now it's my daily tool, and haven't had any regression since then, I just enable/reset by each new logon and that's it.


btw I think I saw one user mentioning about 15sec delay in ini file, but there is no such file, I just have exe, do I make one by exe location?

 

[Mussels]

I am pretty sure W1zzard disables defender, telemetry etc before benching, it's a plus for sure since it means all Tpu reviews right now are still valid.

Maybe someone else said this shrug.

He does, as do most serious reviewers

 

[unclewebb]

delay in ini file, but there is no such file,

Counter Control does not yet have an INI file but I will probably add one in the near future.

ThrottleStop 9.5.1 has a new INI file option so it will reset the timer and then immediately exit. Let me known in a message if you want to try that feature.

 

[AlwaysHope]

He does, as do most serious reviewers

But that relegates the benchmarks to academic performance, not real world practical for everyday users.
I mean are regular users going to disable defender & telemetry, etc.. just for the sake of performance on their systems?

 

[Mussels]

But that relegates the benchmarks to academic performance, not real world practical for everyday users.
I mean are regular users going to disable defender & telemetry, etc.. just for the sake of performance on their systems?

I brought this up in another thread as well about required software
Hard to praise a motherboard for its overclocking performance, if the average user gets massive performance losses after installing the required software for its OLED display, etc.

I agree with W1zzard that hardware reviews definitely need to be done with a clean OS, even with the AV disabled - as that's a software issue and it can change over time - things like AV should only be enabled when you're comparing AV programs.

That said, i think any required software should be tested with a before and after comparison. If you cant use RGB controllers, OLED displays or update the BIOS without these softwares the average user will install them - and they need to know if they're got performance issues.

 

[lexluthermiester]

He does, as do most serious reviewers

But does he disable or remove?

 

[Mussels]

But does he disable or remove?

Unsure, it's documented on the forums somewhere - he has a guide on what he does and why

Windows 11 Tweaks for GPU Benchmark | TechPowerUp Forums

He disables

 

[lexluthermiester]

Unsure, it's documented on the forums somewhere - he has a guide on what he does and why

Windows 11 Tweaks for GPU Benchmark | TechPowerUp Forums

He disables
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Fair enough then.

 

[ThrashZone]

But does he disable or remove?

Hi,
Disables for the most part and deletes some automatic processes

W1zard's 10 & 11 script removes the most annoying part to
The defender shield on taskbar/ action center so it doesn't show a yellow flag on it for setting changes off default like disabling cloud sample sending/.....or needs or wants to scan
So yeah kind of a half measure to remove the wd pestware.

 

[TheHunter]

Counter Control does not yet have an INI file but I will probably add one in the near future.

ThrottleStop 9.5.1 has a new INI file option so it will reset the timer and then immediately exit. Let me known in a message if you want to try that feature.

Sure I would like to test

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Hardware reviews need to be done with a clean install with nothing disabled, as that is most likely what the avg users install would be like. It is only people like us that will tweak windows and disable certain stuff. Surely the hardware results should show results based on the avg persons PC.

 

[RandomBeeps77]

After a hell of tweaks finally deactivated. Battery went from 1.30h with desktop sightseeing to 7h battery with firefox 6 tabs and Code Editor... Battery is at 85% at the factory capacity. Laptop. from late 2018.

The tweak from OP helped a lot.

 

[AusWolf]

I turned my PC on today, and got "not used" from Counter Control. Previously, it has always been "Defender" until I reset the counters. Has Microsoft issued an update or something?

 

[zebra_hun]

Idk. Later i will check. I use ts 9.3 with autostart, cant test original w10. I hope, ms patched.