Intel Core i7-13700K Raptor Lake-S CPU Runs Geekbench

[Deleted member 24505]

this CPU is made for?

So the CPU is made for a specific job, is that what you are saying? it is made to do any task you run on your PC, not any specific task. I use it as i use it, for gaming etc. I am not a benchaholic who runs high stress tasks constantly, so if it does not get stressed much fine.

Why would i switch my CPU for a lesser one when this cost me nothing, and is cooled fine with my custom loop?

 

[Mussels]

Why would i switch my CPU for a lesser one when this cost me nothing, and is cooled fine with my custom loop?

No ones ever said that


But i know i've said you need to stop preaching about its low power consumption and power efficiency, because your personal results are only applicable to people running a 2022 CPU with a 2016 GPU
It's only cold and efficient because you're GPU limited, but you keep acting like it's going to behave that way for *everyone* - and it doesnt.

No one is saying you're not happy with it or allowed to be happy with it, but you're also using it in a fairly uncommon way - with a 5 year old GPU
A 1660 with DLSS enabled is going to make that CPU run harder than you push it

 

[usiname]

So the CPU is made for a specific job, is that what you are saying? it is made to do any task you run on your PC, not any specific task. I use it as i use it, for gaming etc. I am not a benchaholic who runs high stress tasks constantly, so if it does not get stressed much fine.

Why would i switch my CPU for a lesser one when this cost me nothing, and is cooled fine with my custom loop?

Who says that you must run only one specific heavy task if you have high end cpu? You are the one who thinks that a CPU can only be used for games and nothing else.

 

[fevgatos]

Except that if heating is the same as 12900k, then you can expect your cpu to never perform as advertised because it will overheat without a BEEFY cooling solution.

in performance mode even with an NHD15 it will overheat and throttle, 240/280mm rad aren't enough, so are several 360 that... so unless you want to run a pretty much mandatory 360/420, or be in throttle... yeah sure go intel.

even the beefiest AMD CPU does not overheat like intel CPU. it's getting silly

The usual nonsense. Check my sig, I have a u12a - basically a small single tower cooler. I've hit 30k CBR23 score with it at 280 watts. At stock in CBR23 it peaks at 76c, and undervolted that I run it sits around 65c PEAK. So yeah....unless my u12a turned into a custom watercooler, you are probably wrong

No ones ever said that


But i know i've said you need to stop preaching about its low power consumption and power efficiency, because your personal results are only applicable to people running a 2022 CPU with a 2016 GPU
It's only cold and efficient because you're GPU limited, but you keep acting like it's going to behave that way for *everyone* - and it doesnt.

No one is saying you're not happy with it or allowed to be happy with it, but you're also using it in a fairly uncommon way - with a 5 year old GPU
A 1660 with DLSS enabled is going to make that CPU run harder than you push it

I have a 3090 and a 12900k, it literally maxes out my 3090 in FC6 at 25 watts. Let me repeat that, my 12900k locked to 25w is gpu bottlenecked by my 3090 in FC6 at around 100 to 120 fps

 

[usiname]

The usual nonsense. Check my sig, I have a u12a - basically a small single tower cooler. I've hit 30k CBR23 score with it at 280 watts. At stock in CBR23 it peaks at 76c, and undervolted that I run it sits around 65c PEAK. So yeah....unless my u12a turned into a custom watercooler, you are probably wrong

"Small" single tower cooler with 7 heatpipes that is on the level of D15. Also what do you mean by peak in R23, do you run in for 10 or 30m or just single run?

 

[fevgatos]

"Small" single tower cooler with 7 heatpipes that is on the level of D15. Also what do you mean by peak in R23, do you run in for 10 or 30m or just single run?

It's literally a small single tower cooler. No? I mean it's not an intel stock cooler, but still its way smaller than a fuma 2 or an ak620 which cost around 50 euros.

The user said that even a d15 or a 280aio thermal throttles, so even if the u12a is on that level (which it isn't), that's absolutely false.

I ran 10minutes but doesn't make a difference, aircoolers have small thermal capacity - they tend to hit their maximum temperatures after around 1 - 1.5 minute. Of course that's assuming you have enough airflow. It's watercoolers that need 20 minutes of testing to thermal soak.

 

[usiname]

It's literally a small single tower cooler. No? I mean it's not an intel stock cooler, but still its way smaller than a fuma 2 or an ak620 which cost around 50 euros.

The user said that even a d15 or a 280aio thermal throttles, so even if the u12a is on that level (which it isn't), that's absolutely false.

I ran 10minutes but doesn't make a difference, aircoolers have small thermal capacity - they tend to hit their maximum temperatures after around 1 - 1.5 minute. Of course that's assuming you have enough airflow. It's watercoolers that need 20 minutes of testing to thermal soak.

Yes, 4-5min is enough to reach the max temp, but single run is not, that is why asked. Also U12A is D15 level cooler, its even beter than Fuma 2

 

[Dirt Chip]

Oh hell yeah, you'll love that level of upgrade

Just watch out for the drastically higher wattages and temps of modern hardware - it's really jarring at a psychological level when modern hardwares 'normal' temperatures are above the danger zone for old hardware

I dont think it will be such a big change, from 120W (i5-2400) to ~200 (i7-13700, non K) at maximum steress work.
A tire up, 11 gen later and all the new elaboratet power boost manegments for ~80W bump is not that drastic to me.
With a new, well ventilated, case and new CPU cooler that advanced alot in the past ~12 years I will have no problem keep temp in check.

 

[fevgatos]

Yes, 4-5min is enough to reach the max temp, but single run is not, that is why asked. Also U12A is D15 level cooler, its even beter than Fuma 2
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Ok so a d15 level cooler is enough to keep the CPU around 25c away from throttling. Which is exactly not what the user I quoted said...

 

[Why_Me]

Yes, 4-5min is enough to reach the max temp, but single run is not, that is why asked. Also U12A is D15 level cooler, its even beter than Fuma 2
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There's the Fuma 2 and now there's the Fuma 2 Rev B and I believe he was referring to the Rev. B.

 

[usiname]

Ok so a d15 level cooler is enough to keep the CPU around 25c away from throttling. Which is exactly not what the user I quoted said...

This is not 12900k, add 15-20C

 

[fevgatos]

This is not 12900k, add 15-20C

Im talking about my results, hitting 76c peak, that's around 25c from throttling.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

You are the one who thinks that a CPU can only be used for games and nothing else.

What????? why would i think any CPU can be used for gaming and nothing else? do you think i'm a fucking idiot?, you are being dumb and putting words in my mouth. FFs what does it matter what i use my CPU for. It runs cool gaming, it does not running some balls out app, what more is there to understand.

The usual nonsense. Check my sig, I have a u12a - basically a small single tower cooler. I've hit 30k CBR23 score with it at 280 watts. At stock in CBR23 it peaks at 76c, and undervolted that I run it sits around 65c PEAK. So yeah....unless my u12a turned into a custom watercooler, you are probably wrong


I have a 3090 and a 12900k, it literally maxes out my 3090 in FC6 at 25 watts. Let me repeat that, my 12900k locked to 25w is gpu bottlenecked by my 3090 in FC6 at around 100 to 120 fps

So even if i did put a better GPU in my PC it is still not gonna use hundreds of watts like some believe it will?

I think it is pointless arguing with people who have NEVER had hands on any ADL CPU so do not undertand or cannot test how they run under any circumstances with any GPU. I am not gonna reply to any such post again, so DO NOT bother quoting me as i will ignore it, sick of the bullshit on TPU.

/unwatch

 

[fevgatos]

The only game that pushes the 12900k to high wattage is cyberpunk, but of course, at 720p with dlss set to ultra performance. Which is something that you should only use for testing
Id really love to see a zen 3 at 25w in farcry 6 pushing a 3090, but we know nobody will date test it

 

[T4C Fantasy]

I just repasted my 2080 Ti, streaming and sometimes gaming black screened, i always thought it was my 12900K for some stupid reason, i opened up my 2080 Ti and the paste was nearly gone... Anyways this story has nothing to do with this thread like most of the posts... Happy saturday.

 

[Mussels]

Yes, 4-5min is enough to reach the max temp, but single run is not, that is why asked. Also U12A is D15 level cooler, its even beter than Fuma 2
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TPU's cooling tests are at intel/AMD specifications, so they're a lot colder than what end users typically see (especially with MCE/PL2 being cranked up on default for many boards)

some coolers perform super well at lower wattages but fall behind at higher, which makes this sort of comparison a total mess

 

[MxPhenom 216]

Maybe content creation, maybe code compilation, maybe encoding/decoding, maybe another job this CPU is made for? As I said, if you going to do only "normal tasks" 12600k will do the same job in the same way. Also Cinebench if you don't know is a benchmark made from on Cinema4D, a software used to render and create 2D and 3D models(content creation)

None of those workloads are going to push a piece of hardware as hard as a synthetic stress test application will. And most 2d and 3D rendering applications utilize the GPU to do the bulk of the work.

These CPUs are also not made for anything specific. They are not ASICs.

 

[Icon Charlie]

In geekbench --which is not a great benchmark. According to GB my i5 is as fast as a 5950x (it's not).

The increase in cache is going to make a difference in the real world and especially in games.

I'm not so sure. It all depends if the cache is going to slow down the overall performance of the CPU. The current example we have is the 5800X3D, which was good in video gaming performance but sucked on the overall performance of the CPU. The price for the gimmick is just not worth it.

Also Intel has spent billions of dollars of advertisement in over 20 years to ingrained their customers on the Increase speed (mhz) = better performance.

What I think is going to happen is back to the Tic' Tok' small increases of performance every year/generation like before. So the Cache might be a little larger every generation in order to not to cannibalize previous generations sales of components that is still in stock.

Just enough to be better than before. But that's all I think it will be. However if it is easier to just increase the mhz to achieve similar results than adding additional cache, they will do so in order to save money

Or do a combination of the two concepts.

 

[PrettyKitten800]

Honestly very promising. The IPC improvements already make those presented by AMD for Zen 4 obsolete. Plus it doesn't suffer from the notorious framerate inconsistency issues that AMD has, doesn't require fiddling with AGESA versions for stability, and is architecturally the way forward in terms of consumer value. Its looking bleak for AMD.

Having different types of cores is definitely the way forward. AMD is slowly getting into this, though they haven't shown any plans for a hybrid design chip yet. Their new Zen 4 server parts can either come with Zen 4 cores or Zen 4c cores, depending on what the server will be used for. The Zen 4c cores are smaller, so they're kind of like e cores. It's still not a hybrid design though.