AMD Ryzen 7000-Series Likely to Launch On or Before the 4th of August

[TheLostSwede]

Courtesy of Planet 3DNow! we now have an idea when AMD might be launching the Ryzen 7000-series of CPU's, as the site posted about an upcoming AMD event called Meet the Experts on Twitter. The event registration page reads "Supporting the recent launch of AMD Ryzen 7000 Series processors," which suggests that the new Ryzen 7000-series is likely to launch on or before the 4th of August. The event takes place at 11:00 in the morning, CDT (Central Daylight Time) or 16:00 UTC.

The event will showcase motherboards from AMD's partners and representatives from ASRock, ASUS, Biostar, Gigabyte and MSI will be attending the online event. There's still no mention of the B650E chipset, but apparently X670E and X670 products will be shown, but not even B650 at this point. Based on the short summary blurb, we're also likely to see a PCIe 5.0 NVMe SSD being shown off. AMD will obviously have a separate launch event for the Ryzen 7000-series, but if that will take place on the same day, or on a different date, is unknown at this point.



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[dont whant to set it"']

Any TPU reviewer got a hold on a review kit?

 

[Shtb]

Did they really decide to do the release earlier, than we thought from that slide from the presentation in China (09.15.2022), or is that just a typo ("the recent launch of AMD Ryzen 7000 Series processors")?

 

[TheLostSwede]

Did they really decide to do the release earlier, than we thought from that slide from the presentation in China (09.15.2022), or is that just a typo ("the recent launch of AMD Ryzen 7000 Series processors")?

Launch dates change.

 

[Tomorrow]

This is just motherboard showcase. CPU's themselves will be shown in the middle of September. Not sure about retail availability (October?) but im pretty sure it's not in August.

 

[TheLostSwede]

This is just motherboard showcase. CPU's themselves will be shown in the middle of September. Not sure about retail availability (October?) but im pretty sure it's not in August.

Except the part about the recent launch then? I mean, this is straight from AMD...
Yes, this specific event is about motherboards, but the text suggests that the CPUs will already have launched ahead of the event.

 

[Niceumemu]

If they're trying to push the launch ahead of Raptor Lake they may not be confident in their performance; hopefully that's not the case.

If they have good stock at the launch then we'll know it was always planned to launch then, but if it's a low stock or paper launch you'd be a fool to buy the AMD products before the Raptor Lake launch.

Maybe it's just going to be an announcement of the announcement of the launch though since AMD seems to like doing that.

 

[Denver]

Oh Well, Who would have thought it would release so soon...

Intel must be worried about so many delays on their side.

 

[TheLostSwede]

If they're trying to push the launch ahead of Raptor Lake they may not be confident in their performance; hopefully that's not the case.

If they have good stock at the launch then we'll know it was always planned to launch then, but if it's a low stock or paper launch you'd be a fool to buy the AMD products before the Raptor Lake launch.

Maybe it's just going to be an announcement of the announcement of the launch though since AMD seems to like doing that.

Could just be a paper launch as well. Or as you say, an announcement that the launch will be at some future date.

 

[Dr. Dro]

Oh Well, Who would have thought it would release so soon...

Intel must be worried about so many delays on their side.

I'm not entirely sure they are, their processors are selling well and Raptor Lake seems like a very powerful platform in its own right. They also have the advantage that their platform does not require DDR5 memory, so unless we see Ryzen 5 and 9 flavors of Zen 3D (eg. 5950X3D), enabling a quick upgrade path within AM4, they will earn the custom of some who would like to upgrade but are unwilling to ditch their known-good, high-end DDR4 kits.

I'm solidly in this last bracket, if the i9-13900KS is a solid enough upgrade over my 5950X, I might as well sell my processor and motherboard and buy one of those alongside a DDR4 motherboard, and I know even which one I want already (and that is the Biostar Valkyrie).

 

[medi01]

But why the rush? Do they feel any heat from the blue team?

 

[MarsM4N]

Can't wait for gaming benchmarks.

This is just motherboard showcase. CPU's themselves will be shown in the middle of September. Not sure about retail availability (October?) but im pretty sure it's not in August.

"Supporting the recent launch of AMD Ryzen 7000 Series processors," which means the CPU's would have to be already out by then (4th of August).

 

[Denver]

I'm not entirely sure they are, their processors are selling well and Raptor Lake seems like a very powerful platform in its own right. They also have the advantage that their platform does not require DDR5 memory, so unless we see Ryzen 5 and 9 flavors of Zen 3D (eg. 5950X3D), enabling a quick upgrade path within AM4, they will earn the custom of some who would like to upgrade but are unwilling to ditch their known-good, high-end DDR4 kits.

I'm solidly in this last bracket, if the i9-13900KS is a solid enough upgrade over my 5950X, I might as well sell my processor and motherboard and buy one of those alongside a DDR4 motherboard, and I know even which one I want already (and that is the Biostar Valkyrie).

RL uses the same architecture as AL in both efficiency and performance cores, except for minor modifications, they are the same cores. Most of the performance improvement will come from increasing the amount of small cores and running at a higher frequency. However, I see this tactic quite limited by the manufacturing process, the TDP will increase along with the operating temperature.

Using DDR4 won't be a big advantage if it leads to double-digit performance degradation. But of course, these are just rumors, the tests will show the reality.

 

[kapone32]

The funniest thing about that image is that the Biostar board looks the most flexible. 1 PCIe slot (reinforced) does not bode well for the budget end of Gigabyte. Of course that is only my opinion.

 

[TheLostSwede]

The funniest thing about that image is that the Biostar board looks the most flexible. 1 PCIe slot (reinforced) does not bode well for the budget end of Gigabyte. Of course that is only my opinion.

All their boards that they've shown so far, have two x16 slots at the bottom. Note that one of those slots is likely to only have two PCIe lanes connected to them though.

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[Bomby569]

let's hope this date doesn't bring with it a paper launch.

 

[Tomorrow]

Except the part about the recent launch then? I mean, this is straight from AMD...
Yes, this specific event is about motherboards, but the text suggests that the CPUs will already have launched ahead of the event.

Could be a typo. The event is on August 5. Today is 26th July but the text says recent 7000 series launch. I highly doubt that we will have the CPU launch in the next ~7 days.
There have not even been any retail box leaks or proper final silicon leaks. Either AMD has done a great job keeping final specs under wraps, the launch is not imminent or it's a pure paper launch.

Besides there is only one upcoming event where they could do a paper launch and thats Q2 2022 Earnings Call on August 2nd. A weird place to launch new series: https://ir.amd.com/news-events/ir-calendar/detail/6872/q2-2022-amd-earnings-call

 

[TheLostSwede]

Could be a typo. The event is on August 5. Today is 26th July but the text says recent 7000 series launch. I highly doubt that we will have the CPU launch in the next ~7 days.
There have not even been any retail box leaks or proper final silicon leaks. Either AMD has done a great job keeping final specs under wraps, the launch is not imminent or it's a pure paper launch.

Besides there is only one upcoming event where they could do a paper launch and thats Q2 2022 Earnings Call on August 2nd. A weird place to launch new series: https://ir.amd.com/news-events/ir-calendar/detail/6872/q2-2022-amd-earnings-call

August 4th, midnight August 5th Taiwan time.
And no, it's hardly a typo, but it's possible AMD saw Computex as the "launch" somehow, which makes no sense.

Also, why is that the ONLY time they could launch it? A product launch can be any time a company wants to.

 

[Tomorrow]

August 4th, midnight August 5th Taiwan time.
And no, it's hardly a typo, but it's possible AMD saw Computex as the "launch" somehow, which makes no sense.

Also, why is that the ONLY time they could launch it? A product launch can be any time a company wants to.

They could but in terms of PR and exposure it's not the best way to get word out. And like i said real launch is always preceded by leaks about final silicon (so far we have seen on ES results), box art, and few days before launch also low quality slides about segmentation (prices, SKU's etc).

I don't see any of these signs yet. So im highly skeptical.

 

[Dr. Dro]

RL uses the same architecture as AL in both efficiency and performance cores, except for minor modifications, they are the same cores. Most of the performance improvement will come from increasing the amount of small cores and running at a higher frequency. However, I see this tactic quite limited by the manufacturing process, the TDP will increase along with the operating temperature.

Using DDR4 won't be a big advantage if it leads to double-digit performance degradation. But of course, these are just rumors, the tests will show the reality.

Mmm, Alder Lake on DDR4 and DDR5 perform within 5% of each other from DDR4-3600 to DDR5-6000, with some outliers of course, I would call it acceptable

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Unless there are drastic changes in Raptor Lake, it's safe to assume that this will hold, perhaps w1zz will do a re-run of that test suite with the 13900K once it's out.

I think the lithography can take the increased clock speeds, and I'm sure that the architectural refinements will take that into account, of course with high TDPs but anyone buying a KS doesn't really have the right to complain about TDP to begin with

Still as it stands, it's like I said, anyone that wants to keep their high-end DDR4 kit currently only has one upgrade path. Thankfully it's very comfy with the 5950X so I can afford to skip the whole generation if it needs be

 

[TheLostSwede]

They could but in terms of PR and exposure it's not the best way to get word out. And like i said real launch is always preceded by leaks about final silicon (so far we have seen on ES results), box art, and few days before launch also low quality slides about segmentation (prices, SKU's etc).

I don't see any of these signs yet. So im highly skeptical.

Always? There are plenty of products that launch every single day of the year without any leaks.
You just expect leaks because we're talking CPUs here. Maybe AMD has managed to put the lid on things this time.
I don't expect this to be the retail launch though, as retail availability is still September.

 

[Tomorrow]

Always? There are plenty of products that launch every single day of the year without any leaks.

Minor products. Not major releases. Sure AMD could have buttoned things up tightly but they are no Nvidia when it comes to secrecy so i doubt it. Nvidia managed to keep real CUDA core count of 30 series hidden until the launch. Even to the extent that some AIB's had wrong information on their websites on launch day.

 

[R0H1T]

If they're trying to push the launch ahead of Raptor Lake they may not be confident in their performance; hopefully that's not the case.

If they have good stock at the launch then we'll know it was always planned to launch then, but if it's a low stock or paper launch you'd be a fool to buy the AMD products before the Raptor Lake launch.

Maybe it's just going to be an announcement of the announcement of the launch though since AMD seems to like doing that.

Or they could be pulling ahead the launch because ~

a) Stock, since TSMC over booking(?) its capacity seems to be a thing of the past now?

b) Expected global economic meltdown ~ get/milk them while they're hot

Even to the extent that some AIB's had wrong information on their websites on launch day.

Come on, if someone internally from the major AIB's wanted to leak they would've had the info! It's just that consequences would be pretty bad for that company.

 

[JrRacinFan]

I'm not entirely sure they are, their processors are selling well and Raptor Lake seems like a very powerful platform in its own right. They also have the advantage that their platform does not require DDR5 memory, so unless we see Ryzen 5 and 9 flavors of Zen 3D (eg. 5950X3D), enabling a quick upgrade path within AM4, they will earn the custom of some who would like to upgrade but are unwilling to ditch their known-good, high-end DDR4 kits.

I'm solidly in this last bracket, if the i9-13900KS is a solid enough upgrade over my 5950X, I might as well sell my processor and motherboard and buy one of those alongside a DDR4 motherboard, and I know even which one I want already (and that is the Biostar Valkyrie).

I thought 7xxx was a ddr5 only release tho ... "?"

 

[efikkan]

Or they could be pulling ahead the launch because ~
a) Stock, since TSMC over booking(?) its capacity seems to be a thing of the past now?

Pulling ahead the launch before the launch window is virtually impossible, regardless of how much capacity TSMC may have. The best case scenario for the time from tapeout to first engineering samples to volume production is about 1 year.

b) Expected global economic meltdown ~ get/milk them while they're hot

More of a meltdown than we've already had for two years now?
I don't think even the so-called experts can precisely predict a few months from now.