Potential Ryzen 7000-series CPU Specs and Pricing Leak, Ryzen 9 7950X Expected to hit 5.7 GHz

[Blaeza]

If you think about it for more than a second, that statement is absolutely ridiculous. Youd pay the same amount regardless of the power limit. The 5600x had a lower power limit yet it cost more than the 3600x did at launch. And following your logic - since electricity costs money - your CPU users double the power at 125w instead of 65 but only performs 20% better, therefore you are not getting what you paid for the electricity.

I'm a ridiculous kind of guy. And I boil a full kettle, JUST FOR ME!

 

[efikkan]

I was imagining additional L2 cache ... if 4 clock cycles of additional delay don't destroy performance too much. What's the L2 latency in Zen 3?

If WikiChip is accurate, ≥12 cycles.
I have no idea about the latency on Zen 4 though. It is possible to maintain comparable latencies with good design and a good node, but we'll see.

 

[Chrispy_]

I'm very dubious about those prices, but one possible strategy to explain it is that AMD wants to get plenty of AM5 boards out into the wild and unless they have cheap CPUs to entice people, nobody on a tighter budget will buy the more expensive AM5+DDR5 combination.

Dropping the price by $100 subsidises the platform cost for new customers and increases AMDs AM5 marketshare which is probably very important for them when they are still producing AM4 CPUs that will work with the wide inventory of cheap, good, affordable AM4 boards and DDR4-3600.

 

[kapone32]

Well aware of that, but X670E has tons of PCIe (just needs some motherboards populating it into slots), and DDR5 easily doubles bandwidth over DDR4, so both of those use cases are being improved notably as well.

If AMD had released a 12 core Threadripper chip for $999 with 5000 series Chips inside for TRX40. I would never have bought a 5950X. Indeed this would have had me look at AM5 with this release. As a result I prefer the Extreme for it's flexibility than the Crosshair but I am pumped to see what the rest of the lineup has.

 

[Punkenjoy]

It also means you have nothing that competes with i3, which sells in large volumes to OEMs.

but does it matter?

They could use one of their monolithic APU to compete on that market, but AMD can't produce enough chips and want to make as much profits. They will allow capacity to higher margin chips before trying to compete on lower end CPU.

You better sell less product with higher margin than the opposite.

 

[HenrySomeone]

My, my, after all those bullshit "leaks" about AMD coming out with 6 core, 12 thread R3s, 8core, 16 threads R5s and 12 core, 24 threads R7s in the months before the Zen2 launch, it is in reality Intel, who is bringing more cores (and most importantly, more performance!) to the table under the same branding and same price, for the fourth time now!

 

[efikkan]

I'm very dubious about those prices, but one possible strategy to explain it is that AMD wants to get plenty of AM5 boards out into the wild and unless they have cheap CPUs to entice people, nobody on a tighter budget will buy the more expensive AM5+DDR5 combination.

Dropping the price by $100 subsidises the platform cost for new customers and increases AMDs AM5 marketshare which is probably very important for them when they are still producing AM4 CPUs that will work with the wide inventory of cheap, good, affordable AM4 boards and DDR4-3600.

If true, this strategy might actually be profitable, but it depends on one critical factor: supplies.
A lot of the cost of a CPU is offsetting the development cost, so if they sell many more CPUs at a lower price, the actual profit may actually increase.

 

[thewan]

Funny guy. You should check APAC prices

Looks like AMD or at least select partners will offer special DDR5 memory deals come September.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1555176687440199680

Huh? That's what I am checking. DDR5 is really coming down in price here. AU and NZ doesn't apply.

Ah, forgot to add Japan to that list. For some reason, all non Japanese products seem to be stupidly overpriced and many Japanese products are also stupidly overpriced there.
Can't see any pricing for that from here though.
Time to come visit isla formosa...
Basic 4800 MHz modules have been on sale here for as little as US$67 for 2x 8GB.
A pair of 6200 MHz V-Color Manta CL36 16 GB modules retail for US$263, which is about the same some 3600 MHz DDR4 low latency G.Skill modules are going for locally.

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Don't worry. Mr lost is just being lost as usual. He thinks that APAC only has a single country (Taiwan).

Over here in SEA (which is obviously not? part of APAC), 67USD can get you 1 - 1.5 * 8GB DDR5 4800. We need to spend double that to get 2x8GB. I've looked at Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand and Philippines.

As for your pair of 16GB 6200 DDR5, since availability of niche stuff is rubbish over here, the cheapest one I've spotted in my home of Malaysia (not gonna lookup the other countries, too much hassle. Note that DDR5 4800 was the cheapest here in MY among other SEA markets from the comparison I made above.) are Corsair that retail for 360 USD.

And yes the above price are looking at the cheapest "Legit" prices, since there are alot of scam shops here may show lower prices.

Maybe if you wanted to represent "us" here in the APAC region you would not get lost and do a bit of research before posting on the internet. Its not that hard.

 

[TheLostSwede]

Don't worry. Mr lost is just being lost as usual. He thinks that APAC only has a single country (Taiwan).

Over here in SEA (which is obviously not? part of APAC), 67USD can get you 1 - 1.5 * 8GB DDR5 4800. We need to spend double that to get 2x8GB. I've looked at Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand and Philippines.

As for your pair of 16GB 6200 DDR5, since availability of niche stuff is rubbish over here, the cheapest one I've spotted in my home of Malaysia (not gonna lookup the other countries, too much hassle. Note that DDR5 4800 was the cheapest here in MY among other SEA markets from the comparison I made above.) are Corsair that retail for 360 USD.

And yes the above price are looking at the cheapest "Legit" prices, since there are alot of scam shops here may show lower prices.

Maybe if you wanted to represent "us" here in the APAC region you would not get lost and do a bit of research before posting on the internet. Its not that hard.

No need to be rude and no need for personal attacks.

The thing is, when prices are starting to go down in one country in a region, usually most other places follow. So maybe wait a few weeks and prices will come down in your part of APAC as well.

 

[mb194dc]

I'm very dubious about those prices, but one possible strategy to explain it is that AMD wants to get plenty of AM5 boards out into the wild and unless they have cheap CPUs to entice people, nobody on a tighter budget will buy the more expensive AM5+DDR5 combination.

Dropping the price by $100 subsidises the platform cost for new customers and increases AMDs AM5 marketshare which is probably very important for them when they are still producing AM4 CPUs that will work with the wide inventory of cheap, good, affordable AM4 boards and DDR4-3600.

There's only going to be a relativity small market for these chips. AM4 will suit 99% of use cases just fine still. The general economic environment has a lot to do with it.

Last gen is so good, only those who want several hundred fps at 1080p or similar need bother with AM5.

 

[Makaveli]

DDR5 isn't really expensive any more. The prices are coming down almost daily.

Price are coming down but still expensive when looking at enthusiast level kits and not the OEM junk.

DDR5 6000+ kits cost this much CAD currently. Prices are indeed dropping but not there yet.

$459.99 CAD = 357.50 USD

 

[HisDivineOrder]

Remember when AMD said six cores was worth $300? Haha, them were good times.

 

[Valantar]

If AMD had released a 12 core Threadripper chip for $999 with 5000 series Chips inside for TRX40. I would never have bought a 5950X. Indeed this would have had me look at AM5 with this release. As a result I prefer the Extreme for it's flexibility than the Crosshair but I am pumped to see what the rest of the lineup has.

I understand that, but consumer HEDT is such a tiny niche now that it doesn't have a relevant-to-consumers thread count advantage and consumers no longer want or need multiple GPUs, that it's not a sustainable market. For professional use it still has value, which is why we have TR Pro.

 

[wheresmycar]

$600 speculated for the 12 core counterpart. Crikey nora pandora. Anyway not that i'm interested...

i'm waiting for a gaming upgrade. Preferably the 7700X if the cost is reasonable (incl board and DDR5 memory), otherwise i'd be more than happy with a 7600X. At the speculated $200 the 7600X that sounds like a treat!!

 

[windwhirl]

Even CPU's are increasing TDP now? The 7600x with 105W from the usual 65W will require better coolers.

x600X CPUs have usually been 95W TDP parts. The 5600X was the exception.

 

[thegnome]

That's true for DDR5-4800 CL40 but early adopters will be avoiding that lowest grade, which can barely compete with cheap DDR4.

In terms of looks and latency maybe, but actual performance is up there with higher end DDR4 kits, just watch some reviews on Alderlake comparing 4 to 5.

 

[Mussels]

Too good to be true... but I imagine it's a tactic to offset the high price of DDR5 and encourage migration to the new platform(?)

Intel did it too - the parts shortages have ended, so once they sell off the higher cost (to retailers) old stock, they can do a decrease for new products

 

[AlwaysHope]

Believe none of these prices until I actually see what retailers in my part of the world are going to charge.

 

[Ravenas]

If this weren’t a platform moving to DDR5 I would likely skip, but I am interested in DDR5 gains.

 

[Minus Infinity]

I will likely be upgrading from the R7 2700 to the R7 7700x, should be quite the increase in FPS!

One of PC's will be upgrading from 1700X, but I'm waiting for the v-cache models before deciding. I'm thinking 7900X this time around but if the clock speed penalty for v-cache is smaller this time I'm in.

Curious 7800X isn't mentioned. I wonder if they will only make the 7800X v-cache this time around. It would be pointless having a 7700X and a regular 7800X.

 

[Mussels]

I'm waiting for the first round of sales on the 2nd gen AM5 parts, unless they do come out with new AM4 parts.


Replacing my 2700x with its ghetto pins would be great, but fortunately not something i need in a hurry

 

[Bwaze]

5.7 GHz sounds like a large frequency increase. But we know Ryzen processors don't actually do any work at their boost frequency, they jump to that peak momentarily with very light loads, and they perform even the purely synthetic sincle core load at lower frequency.

In my opinion that complicates simple arithmetic on how much frequency increase are we seing here.

 

[gffermari]

It looks to me that the 7600X, 7700X will match or barely overcome the performance of the 3D in gaming. So the rocket lake will be about 10% or more faster and then a 7800X3D will arrive to “compensate” the loss…

The prices are very good and tempting. But I don’t know if my scenario comes true how the people react to that. Especially if the 13600K is all around performer and cheap enough.

 

[HenrySomeone]

$600 speculated for the 12 core counterpart. Crikey nora pandora. Anyway not that i'm interested...

i'm waiting for a gaming upgrade. Preferably the 7700X if the cost is reasonable (incl board and DDR5 memory), otherwise i'd be more than happy with a 7600X. At the speculated $200 the 7600X that sounds like a treat!!

If the $200 rumor is true, than it won't even match 12600k, if it'll be better ... then it won't be $200, it's as simple as that (but I'm betting on the former this time).

 

[Jimmy_]

Interesting pricing - as 14th gen intel is been delayed yet again. AMD can gain a lot with their ryzen 7000.
Kudos to TEAM RED for staying as per their road map