EK Rolls Out New Delta² TEC for LGA 1700 and Intel 12th Gen Core CPUs

[Mussels]

Don't pin some eastern European company's cash grab stunts on Intel!

You uh, you know intel designed this right?

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Intel asked them to do it, and its weird proprietary crap to stop them running on AMD

 

[junglist724]

Don't pin some eastern European company's cash grab stunts on Intel!

 

[bogami]

An excellent addition, especially for a top of the line processor, it will be added in all areas of processor utilization. Only the price is high for many enthusiasts. regardless, if you want the maximum utilization of the processor, it is necessary to choose suitable other parts that will support this. I want to, but I can't buy it. Oh oh mmmm .

 

[Ferrum Master]

Don't pin some eastern European company's cash grab stunts on Intel!

From where you come to scorn anyone as some being from eastern EU?

 

[80251]

Adam Ant? The dandy highwayman? Is that you Stuart Leslie Goddard?

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

"Looking for MAXIMUM PERFORMANCE AND FREQUENCIES"

yeah bucko, I've got a system with pre-overclocked RAM to sell you, and it would cost you much less than a 540 USD markup plus a spare waterloop
as high CPU frequencies are worthless if the memory isn't fast enough to meaningfully feed it data in time
and hey, with so much spare performance from the properly-running RAM - you might even afford to run the CPU at reasonable settings, instead of as a 300W furnace!


But something tells me most of the people buying this sort of shiny trinket, will not be running a very good RAM overclock.
Oh well. Good RAM performance is bad for maximum CPU frequency anyway, makes 'em work too hard to achieve all those empty (but shiny, and BIG) clock cycles.

There's some just slathering at the Idea of messing with it tbf, but I'll build my own before paying that much, tbf I can't be assed or I would have by now, I have 3 spare rads.
Nice though, if I was a millionaire I would own it and a 13900K easy.

 

[AsRock]

TEC is worthless for cooling CPUs. Why is EK spending R&D on gimmicks like this, and gold waterblocks? Has their management lost its collective minds?

It's the cycle, doing what most do until they come up with some thing else to put in the cycle.

 

[WhateverAnotherFreakingID]

Yeah I'm not paying 540$ for a CPU block.

Featuring, at least from my own personal experience, the most failing USB connection type, I swear those things just happens to break as easy as if you just stares at them too long

Enclosed:
- EK-Quantum Delta² TEC D-RGB - Full Nickel with rubber hosing
- EK-Quantum Delta² TEC D-RGB - Full Nickel controller unit
- Mounting mechanism (screws, mounting plate, necessary washers, etc)
- Uni bracket 120mm for mounting PCB case on a 120mm fan mounting position inside the case
- EK-Cable 5-Pin Motherboard (F) to Micro-USB (M) 50cm (1pcs)

Also worth mentioning the warnings:

Warning:

• Given that the CPU is cooled by the EK-Quantum Delta² TEC directly to achieve low temperatures, the rest of your liquid cooling loop will be under stress from the TEC plates. Do not use your CPU temperatures as a baseline for your Fan or Pump speeds! It is best to monitor the coolant temperature or set the fans and pump at a fixed speed level!
• To keep your warranty please use licensed Intel software and follow the manual.
• Delta TEC is not designed for ALL CORE MAX frequency under heavy load, but it's intended for a lighter load like gaming and ONE CORE MAX boost. The TEC is not suitable for benchmarking with software like Prime95 which heavily loads all cores on the CPU.

And at last, Peltier cells are known to be power hungry energy inefficient devices, so yeah just add those watts, never mentioned in the tech specs btw, ... I wonder why.... on top of MTP of 241W of Alder/Raptor Lake, happy BBQ everyone!

 

[fevgatos]

eaturing, at least from my own personal experience, the most failing USB connection type, I swear those things just happens to break as easy as if you just stares at them too long



Also worth mentioning the warnings:


And at last, Peltier cells are known to be power hungry energy inefficient devices, so yeah just add those watts, never mentioned in the tech specs btw, ... I wonder why.... on top of MTP of 241W of Alder/Raptor Lake, happy BBQ everyone!

If you know what they are good for, they are fine. They are not meant to run CBR23 man, for gaming workloads you can pretty much have the CPU permanently running at 5.5+ ghz

 

[Bloax]

Peltier coolers are probably best at keeping very low power devices (like RAM) at a constant sub-ambient temperature by cooling a fluid encasing them, rather than the chips themselves.

If you care about videogaming performance, then you'd be more interested in what I sell (RAM OC) than silly toys for rich boys.

What does well-configured RAM give you? Responsiveness, stability, smoothness (last two are related) of frame delivery.
What does 5.1 -> 5.5 GHz P-Core give you? Disappointingly little of these things!

speaking of responsiveness and smoothness;

someone really liked the impact performing this (surprisingly simple) process had on their system - though it's one of many things that add up to a Well-Running System
it is however, one of the "big impact" ones that is easiest to do

 

[fevgatos]

Peltier coolers are probably best at keeping very low power devices (like RAM) at a constant sub-ambient temperature by cooling a fluid encasing them, rather than the chips themselves.

If you care about videogaming performance, then you'd be more interested in what I sell (RAM OC) than silly toys for rich boys.

What does well-configured RAM give you? Responsiveness, stability, smoothness (last two are related) of frame delivery.
What does 5.1 -> 5.5 GHz P-Core give you? Disappointingly little of these things!

speaking of responsiveness and smoothness;

someone really liked the impact performing this (surprisingly simple) process had on their system - though it's one of many things that add up to a Well-Running System
it is however, one of the "big impact" ones that is easiest to do

You realize that you can have both right? Nobody is stopping you from tuning your ram while also tuning your CPU

 

[MarsM4N]

That's exaxtly the product we need in a global energy crisis.
Great job, EK. Pretty sure it will rain awards. Also funny how they didn't mention the power usage numbers, lol.

 

[Bloax]

You realize that you can have both right? Nobody is stopping you from tuning your ram while also tuning your CPU

If you've got a burning coal in your wallet, yes - though at that point you should really be looking into binned CPUs, lapping and a chiller instead, so as to stack enough Diminishing Returns factors into a measureable final impact.
The chiller is also re-usable - so long as both it, and the victim CPU, are lapped flat - unlike a one-trick peltier pony, very nice!

As far as RAM-OC'd systems go, then one 12600k with a board and a half-decent 2x8 kit would run you not much more than just a 12900k on its own - and beat the crap out of it in Videogaming Experience.
Fun stuff, but who's buyin'?

 

[hat]

I haven't heard of peltier coolers in a while. I'm pretty sure a water chiller would work better at this point, rather than dumping 600w of heat in your loop. Even the most heavily overclocked CPUs shouldn't draw so much...

 

[B NEGATIVE]

Garbage, out of touch product from the greedy, self absorbed trash can of a company.

Not surprised tbh. The sooner this company goes bankrupt, the better. At least we wont have long to wait now they sacked half of their staff and have plans on sacking more... using credit to make payroll is not a smart business move.


Business angel? Business Potato more like.

 

[trsttte]

That's exaxtly the product we need in a global energy crisis.

ABSOLUTELY!!! If the point is going extreme and price is already out the door anyway why the hell are we still seing these stupid peltier "coolers" instead of just going with a full blown chiller that with proper design could be small and use a lot less power!? It would still be stupid and inefficient but compared to a peltier at least it wouldn't consume 3 to 4 times the amount of power of the product it's trying to cool.


The version of this that was initially done by Cooler Master had a thick rubber gasget to isolate any condensation that I don't see here but I guess anyone who's buying something like this can replace the components when they short out without any problems

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Makes you wonder what was cooling all these raptor lake leaks though doesn't it, made in collaboration with Intel, and shipping today, so around for a while.

Not for Heavy use!, that's some caveat there light gaming and quick benchmark runs only I'm seeing comedy ahead, less chiller to hide eh, smart intel.

 

[HBSound]

Has anyone discovered any valuable components for their system? Are they constructing their own thermoelectric cooling (TEC) system with radiators? How is its performance? Thank you!

 

[Mussels]

Has anyone discovered any valuable components for their system? Are they constructing their own thermoelectric cooling (TEC) system with radiators? How is its performance? Thank you!

Sorry, what's your question?

 

[HBSound]

Sorry, what's your question?

Has anyone inserted their own version of a TEC / Cryo cooling system into their current PC? Outside of the EKWB and Coolmaster?

 

[maxfly]

If you're honestly interested in using TECs successfully, there's a dude over at ocforums that has configured his entire system around them. He explains how he went about building and tweaking it in detail. Let me know if you want to check it out and I'll dig up his build thread.

 

[HBSound]

If you're honestly interested in using TECs successfully, there's a dude over at ocforums that has configured his entire system around them. He explains how he went about building and tweaking it in detail. Let me know if you want to check it out and I'll dig up his build thread.

Yes, I would love the info.

Thank you.

 

[maxfly]

Yes, I would love the info.

Thank you.

Np, he usually responds to questions pretty quickly but I don't know how active he is anymore.
GL!

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[HBSound]

Np, he usually responds to questions pretty quickly but I don't know how active he is anymore.
GL!

My Chilled Water Cooling Obsession Is Now Version 4.0.

A friend called my chilled water cooling a hobby but actually it is absolutely an obsession! In one way or another I have been Chilled Water Cooling my CPU for a higher overclock threshold since 2011, it all started with 10 gallons of water in a Coleman cooler. Using gallon jugs of distilled...

www.overclockers.com

Thank you so much!

 

[Mussels]

Has anyone inserted their own version of a TEC / Cryo cooling system into their current PC? Outside of the EKWB and Coolmaster?

If you mean companies, there was a very limited range of them for intel only.

As for third party/DIY solutions there are plenty - but they're generally terrible. Extremely inefficient, noisy, hot.