• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

MSI Publishes its X670 Motherboard Product Pages

TheLostSwede

News Editor
Joined
Nov 11, 2004
Messages
17,360 (2.38/day)
Location
Sweden
System Name Overlord Mk MLI
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Motherboard Gigabyte X670E Aorus Master
Cooling Noctua NH-D15 SE with offsets
Memory 32GB Team T-Create Expert DDR5 6000 MHz @ CL30-34-34-68
Video Card(s) Gainward GeForce RTX 4080 Phantom GS
Storage 1TB Solidigm P44 Pro, 2 TB Corsair MP600 Pro, 2TB Kingston KC3000
Display(s) Acer XV272K LVbmiipruzx 4K@160Hz
Case Fractal Design Torrent Compact
Audio Device(s) Corsair Virtuoso SE
Power Supply be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W
Mouse Logitech G502 Lightspeed
Keyboard Corsair K70 Max
Software Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores https://valid.x86.fr/yfsd9w
Interesting io panel. 3 usb type c and one with a DP.

The 10G Lan probably adds a bit to the price??
The new Marvell/Aquantia 10 Gbps chips should be cheaper, but I'm not sure about the exact price. The older ones were going for about $20-30 a pop.
 
Joined
Oct 29, 2019
Messages
466 (0.26/day)
What's your sources on this?
I'm talking to the motherboard manufacturers.
I don't know where the websites are getting there exact source from. There's a handful of sites in the last 2 weeks that have all repeated the same quote "AMD's first wave of 600-series motherboards would focus on the higher-end X670E & X670 designs followed by B650E & B650 products a few weeks later (around October/November) "

Hopefully that's the case, I don't know how you logically wait till the first quarter of next year to make AM5 even somewhat accessible at the consumer level especially given your competition
 
Joined
Feb 18, 2005
Messages
5,701 (0.79/day)
Location
Ikenai borderline!
System Name Firelance.
Processor Threadripper 3960X
Motherboard ROG Strix TRX40-E Gaming
Cooling IceGem 360 + 6x Arctic Cooling P12
Memory 8x 16GB Patriot Viper DDR4-3200 CL16
Video Card(s) MSI GeForce RTX 4060 Ti Ventus 2X OC
Storage 2TB WD SN850X (boot), 4TB Crucial P3 (data)
Display(s) 3x AOC Q32E2N (32" 2560x1440 75Hz)
Case Enthoo Pro II Server Edition (Closed Panel) + 6 fans
Power Supply Fractal Design Ion+ 2 Platinum 760W
Mouse Logitech G602
Keyboard Razer Pro Type Ultra
Software Windows 10 Professional x64
WTF is this Pro X670-P WiFi garbage? PCIe x16, then x4 (but a full-length metal slot), and then a x2 slot that is also full-length? What's even the point?
 
Joined
Aug 30, 2021
Messages
73 (0.06/day)
I don't get this article. MSI published these specs like a week ago. And they are hardly "late", neither ASRock nor ASUS have published specs yet, only Gigabyte.
 
Joined
Jan 3, 2021
Messages
3,380 (2.44/day)
Location
Slovenia
Processor i5-6600K
Motherboard Asus Z170A
Cooling some cheap Cooler Master Hyper 103 or similar
Memory 16GB DDR4-2400
Video Card(s) IGP
Storage Samsung 850 EVO 250GB
Display(s) 2x Oldell 24" 1920x1200
Case Bitfenix Nova white windowless non-mesh
Audio Device(s) E-mu 1212m PCI
Power Supply Seasonic G-360
Mouse Logitech Marble trackball, never had a mouse
Keyboard Key Tronic KT2000, no Win key because 1994
Software Oldwin
It looks like USB power delivery is going to be a rare animal, only the ACE board supports it (60 W on one of the front ports).
 
Joined
Jun 18, 2021
Messages
2,517 (2.07/day)
WTF is this Pro X670-P WiFi garbage? PCIe x16, then x4 (but a full-length metal slot), and then a x2 slot that is also full-length? What's even the point?

It's still a 4.0 slot so even a moderm graphics card wouldn't really see that much difference. Better than the usual slot from the chipset that can only be used if an m.2 is not populated. The x2 is pretty silly though, x670 has x4 lanes for a slot, don't know what they did to the 2 missing lanes.

It looks like USB power delivery is going to be a rare animal, only the ACE board supports it (60 W on one of the front ports).

I don't get the need for high power PD ports on motherboards, are you charging a laptop from your desktop? Few phones support that kind of power and even then, it's not something that should be used often on phones if you want the battery to last for any reasonable length of time.
 
Joined
Aug 21, 2013
Messages
1,882 (0.46/day)
Where's the Unify? After building with the z690 Unify for someone else, I want one for my own rig now!
Likely B650E. For some reason it is supposed to be better for extreme OC. Gigabyte already hinted that their Tachyon will use B650E. I wonder if this could be due to BCLK . Tho it is odd because X670E is just two B650E's daisy chained. B550 and X570 were very different and B550 was newer and better for extreme OC. Especially BCLK.
 
Joined
May 3, 2018
Messages
2,882 (1.22/day)
I believe Asrock and Asus (maybe Gigabyte too) have USB 4 by reading their specs lists, so why can they offer it on X670E and not MSI. They are always behind on USB IMO.
 

TheLostSwede

News Editor
Joined
Nov 11, 2004
Messages
17,360 (2.38/day)
Location
Sweden
System Name Overlord Mk MLI
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Motherboard Gigabyte X670E Aorus Master
Cooling Noctua NH-D15 SE with offsets
Memory 32GB Team T-Create Expert DDR5 6000 MHz @ CL30-34-34-68
Video Card(s) Gainward GeForce RTX 4080 Phantom GS
Storage 1TB Solidigm P44 Pro, 2 TB Corsair MP600 Pro, 2TB Kingston KC3000
Display(s) Acer XV272K LVbmiipruzx 4K@160Hz
Case Fractal Design Torrent Compact
Audio Device(s) Corsair Virtuoso SE
Power Supply be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W
Mouse Logitech G502 Lightspeed
Keyboard Corsair K70 Max
Software Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores https://valid.x86.fr/yfsd9w
I don't know where the websites are getting there exact source from. There's a handful of sites in the last 2 weeks that have all repeated the same quote "AMD's first wave of 600-series motherboards would focus on the higher-end X670E & X670 designs followed by B650E & B650 products a few weeks later (around October/November) "

Hopefully that's the case, I don't know how you logically wait till the first quarter of next year to make AM5 even somewhat accessible at the consumer level especially given your competition
I have to apologise, I mixed up the Intel H770/B760 launch, which is at CES, with the B650 launch, which now seems to be October 10th.

WTF is this Pro X670-P WiFi garbage? PCIe x16, then x4 (but a full-length metal slot), and then a x2 slot that is also full-length? What's even the point?
Expect a lot of boards with x2 slots, some even PCIe 3.0, using full x16 physical slots.

I don't get this article. MSI published these specs like a week ago. And they are hardly "late", neither ASRock nor ASUS have published specs yet, only Gigabyte.
You mean like this
and this

Asus has had one board up for quite some time.

Sorry if I was a couple of days late on noticing, but no-one else seems to have picked up when MSI put it up either.

It looks like USB power delivery is going to be a rare animal, only the ACE board supports it (60 W on one of the front ports).
It seems to be all through the front port, I think I've only seen one board that does it via a rear port.

It's still a 4.0 slot so even a moderm graphics card wouldn't really see that much difference. Better than the usual slot from the chipset that can only be used if an m.2 is not populated. The x2 is pretty silly though, x670 has x4 lanes for a slot, don't know what they did to the 2 missing lanes.
WiFi and Ethernet or something along those lines.
I don't get the need for high power PD ports on motherboards, are you charging a laptop from your desktop? Few phones support that kind of power and even then, it's not something that should be used often on phones if you want the battery to last for any reasonable length of time.
You're not getting more than 1.5-2A without it though and even 20-30 W would be nice, which no-one seems to implement.

I believe Asrock and Asus (maybe Gigabyte too) have USB 4 by reading their specs lists, so why can they offer it on X670E and not MSI. They are always behind on USB IMO.
On a few SKUs, yes. And it's USB4, not USB 4.
 
Joined
Oct 29, 2019
Messages
466 (0.26/day)
I have to apologise, I mixed up the Intel H770/B760 launch, which is at CES, with the B650 launch, which now seems to be October 10th.
It's all good. I figured that was the case. I even wrote on the first page "The only B series release i've heard tied to CES is the B760 series from intel" (I just assumed the 2 got mixed up)
 
Last edited:

Mussels

Freshwater Moderator
Joined
Oct 6, 2004
Messages
58,413 (7.98/day)
Location
Oystralia
System Name Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load)
Processor Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core)
Motherboard Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded)
Cooling Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate
Memory 2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V)
Video Card(s) Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W))
Storage 2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2
Display(s) Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) | Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) | Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144)
Case Fractal Design R6
Audio Device(s) Logitech G560 | Corsair Void pro RGB |Blue Yeti mic
Power Supply Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY)
Mouse Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL
Keyboard Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps)
VR HMD Oculus Rift S + Quest 2
Software Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware!
Benchmark Scores Nyooom.
finned VRM heatsinks arrive to several models of X670E motherboards.
regarding DDR5 - MSI likes boasting high DDR5 support. That's not entirely surprising seeing how recent MSI memory support has been generally very good
Other flaws aside, even on my garbage MSI B450 board it's RAM support was fantastic
Ironic when the rest of it was poop :p

The simple 'memory try it' presets were something other brands need to imitate
 
Joined
Feb 18, 2005
Messages
5,701 (0.79/day)
Location
Ikenai borderline!
System Name Firelance.
Processor Threadripper 3960X
Motherboard ROG Strix TRX40-E Gaming
Cooling IceGem 360 + 6x Arctic Cooling P12
Memory 8x 16GB Patriot Viper DDR4-3200 CL16
Video Card(s) MSI GeForce RTX 4060 Ti Ventus 2X OC
Storage 2TB WD SN850X (boot), 4TB Crucial P3 (data)
Display(s) 3x AOC Q32E2N (32" 2560x1440 75Hz)
Case Enthoo Pro II Server Edition (Closed Panel) + 6 fans
Power Supply Fractal Design Ion+ 2 Platinum 760W
Mouse Logitech G602
Keyboard Razer Pro Type Ultra
Software Windows 10 Professional x64
Expect a lot of boards with x2 slots, some even PCIe 3.0, using full x16 physical slots.
WHYYYYYY?

What the actual FUCK is the point of having the highest-end chipset and not having its PCIe lanes exposed via the PCIe slots? I don't understand what universe that MSI lives in whereby users are going to have 4 NVMe SSDs but no secondary PCIe card.

If the manufacturers want to put 20 billion NVMe slots on their boards, that's fine. Just also add circuitry so that the PCIe slots by default have all lanes allocated to them, and every time you plug in an NVMe SSD it steals 4 of the slot lanes. So you'd start off with an x16 slot, then it would go down to x12, then x8, then x4, and finally x0 with 4 NVMe slots populated.

If that's too complex (and apparently it is), just go with the solution that everyone knows works - a separate PCB that can house up to 4 NVMe SSDs and plugs into a PCIe x16 slot.
 
Joined
Jun 18, 2021
Messages
2,517 (2.07/day)
WiFi and Ethernet or something along those lines.

Acording to previously shared block diagram (not official of course) there were enought lanes for an x4 slot with wifi and ethernet already accounted for



If the manufacturers want to put 20 billion NVMe slots on their boards, that's fine. Just also add circuitry so that the PCIe slots by default have all lanes allocated to them, and every time you plug in an NVMe SSD it steals 4 of the slot lanes. So you'd start off with an x16 slot, then it would go down to x12, then x8, then x4, and finally x0 with 4 NVMe slots populated.

Having that level of modularity as great as it would be is a bit unrealistic on consumer boards. It would be great if simple bifurcation from the first x16 slot was more commonplace (now that we're going to pcie5.0 there's so much bandwith there's no reason not to) and/or if they could make the bios flexible enought to not crash to death if one decided to get some server class bifurcation adapters to further split that slot (into x8 x4 x4 for example) but I think that's pretty much the best we could hope for (and be disappointed because they will not bother to deliver it :( )
 
Last edited:
Joined
Feb 18, 2005
Messages
5,701 (0.79/day)
Location
Ikenai borderline!
System Name Firelance.
Processor Threadripper 3960X
Motherboard ROG Strix TRX40-E Gaming
Cooling IceGem 360 + 6x Arctic Cooling P12
Memory 8x 16GB Patriot Viper DDR4-3200 CL16
Video Card(s) MSI GeForce RTX 4060 Ti Ventus 2X OC
Storage 2TB WD SN850X (boot), 4TB Crucial P3 (data)
Display(s) 3x AOC Q32E2N (32" 2560x1440 75Hz)
Case Enthoo Pro II Server Edition (Closed Panel) + 6 fans
Power Supply Fractal Design Ion+ 2 Platinum 760W
Mouse Logitech G602
Keyboard Razer Pro Type Ultra
Software Windows 10 Professional x64
Having that level of modularity as great as it would be is a bit unrealistic on consumer boards. It would be great if simple bifurcation from the first x16 slot was more commonplace (now that we're going to pcie5.0 there's so much bandwith there's no reason not to) and/or if they could make the bios flexible enought to not crash to death if one decided to get some server class bifurcation adapters to further split that slot (into x8 x4 x4 for example) but I think that's pretty much the best we could hope for (and be disappointed because they will not bother to deliver it :( )
I don't give a shit about bandwidth, but about lane count; I'll take a 48-lane PCIe 4.0 platform over a 24-lane PCIe 5.0 one any day. Give me my goddamn PCIe slots with useful lane counts back, manufacturers!

Honestly these artificial limitations are really putting me off Zen 4. I shouldn't have to buy the highest-end chipset to get more than one PCIe slot running at x16, for fuck's sake.
 

TheLostSwede

News Editor
Joined
Nov 11, 2004
Messages
17,360 (2.38/day)
Location
Sweden
System Name Overlord Mk MLI
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Motherboard Gigabyte X670E Aorus Master
Cooling Noctua NH-D15 SE with offsets
Memory 32GB Team T-Create Expert DDR5 6000 MHz @ CL30-34-34-68
Video Card(s) Gainward GeForce RTX 4080 Phantom GS
Storage 1TB Solidigm P44 Pro, 2 TB Corsair MP600 Pro, 2TB Kingston KC3000
Display(s) Acer XV272K LVbmiipruzx 4K@160Hz
Case Fractal Design Torrent Compact
Audio Device(s) Corsair Virtuoso SE
Power Supply be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W
Mouse Logitech G502 Lightspeed
Keyboard Corsair K70 Max
Software Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores https://valid.x86.fr/yfsd9w
WHYYYYYY?

What the actual FUCK is the point of having the highest-end chipset and not having its PCIe lanes exposed via the PCIe slots? I don't understand what universe that MSI lives in whereby users are going to have 4 NVMe SSDs but no secondary PCIe card.

If the manufacturers want to put 20 billion NVMe slots on their boards, that's fine. Just also add circuitry so that the PCIe slots by default have all lanes allocated to them, and every time you plug in an NVMe SSD it steals 4 of the slot lanes. So you'd start off with an x16 slot, then it would go down to x12, then x8, then x4, and finally x0 with 4 NVMe slots populated.

If that's too complex (and apparently it is), just go with the solution that everyone knows works - a separate PCB that can house up to 4 NVMe SSDs and plugs into a PCIe x16 slot.
Unfortunately, that's not how PCIe was designed.
 

Mussels

Freshwater Moderator
Joined
Oct 6, 2004
Messages
58,413 (7.98/day)
Location
Oystralia
System Name Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load)
Processor Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core)
Motherboard Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded)
Cooling Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate
Memory 2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V)
Video Card(s) Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W))
Storage 2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2
Display(s) Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) | Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) | Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144)
Case Fractal Design R6
Audio Device(s) Logitech G560 | Corsair Void pro RGB |Blue Yeti mic
Power Supply Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY)
Mouse Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL
Keyboard Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps)
VR HMD Oculus Rift S + Quest 2
Software Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware!
Benchmark Scores Nyooom.
I don't give a shit about bandwidth, but about lane count; I'll take a 48-lane PCIe 4.0 platform over a 24-lane PCIe 5.0 one any day. Give me my goddamn PCIe slots with useful lane counts back, manufacturers!

Honestly these artificial limitations are really putting me off Zen 4. I shouldn't have to buy the highest-end chipset to get more than one PCIe slot running at x16, for fuck's sake.
I'm hoping future chipsets give that option, by converting 5.0 to 4.0 and doubling the lane count
 
Top