AMD Ryzen 7000 Series Retailer Pricing 10% to 13% Higher Than Ryzen 5000

[mechtech]

Meh

Maybe AM4 stuff will drop even more and I can upgrade on the cheap.

 

[freeagent]

I paid 477.73 for my 5600X on 2/25/21, and I paid 808.49 for my 5900X on 5/24/21. Those new CPU’s look to be priced about the same..

 

[Diverge]

I am taking a stance on inflation and will be sticking with my 9700K cpu until the motherboard dies.

 

[Zareek]

I will not be an early adopter on this generation. I was a day one adopter for the Ryzen 3000 series and it was not exactly fun. With Ryzen 1000 I waited six months or so and it was much smoother. I'm still contemplating a 5000 series upgrade, I can't bring myself to pull the trigger for some reason. Every time I look I think man 5600x looks good but it has two less cores than I have now. Oh maybe 5700x, nah that's not the best 8 core so maybe 5800x well then there is 5800x3d but it is only faster at some things and costs a lot more and even 5900x is getting cheap enough now to consider that instead. Too many solid choices and the prices are so nice now.

 

[dirtyferret]

At those prices they can keep it.
I'm definitely getting a kick of Intel being the budget friendly alternative.
If I'm building/upgrading at the moment I'll definitely for for this from Microcenter plus they giveaway 240GB SSDs as well.
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that's a pretty good deal

This is why I hate reading comments, 99% of the time the first one is not only 100% lacking any any business comprehension though most of these kinds of commenters are actually proud of what they post.

You new to PC tech forums that are full of gamers?

 

[r9]

YEAH! AMD SHOULD ONLY SELL STUFF FOR CHEAP MAKE NO PROFITS AND WHO CARES IF THEY GO OUT OF BUSINESS!

This is why I hate reading comments, 99% of the time the first one is not only 100% lacking any any business comprehension though most of these kinds of commenters are actually proud of what they post.

Says the guy with AMD 8350 LOL
Only people who bought the FX chips are people who didn't care about money or performance only that it has the AMD sticker.

 

[ixi]

Just no. Effffff the rumors. If these are real prices... time to move back to intel oh snap. Or even better, just pass both.

 

[noel_fs]

Thank supply chain shortages and inflation, Intels 13 Gen pricing along with 700 series motherboard pricing wont be any different(they will be even more overpriced compared to already overpriced 600 series of motherboards).

if that was true, the cpus already in production would also be overpriced, people need to start using their brains, businesses are not trying to do us any favors

 

[Palladium]

I dunno, but maybe we shouldn't be obsessed in needless consumerism?

 

[dicobalt]

Too early for the DDR5 transition.

 

[HD64G]

Says the guy with AMD 8350 LOL
Only people who bought the FX chips are people who didn't care about money or performance only that it has the AMD sticker.

Since I got one used a few years back, it was THE deal vs its price comparable i5s back then. And when being new in 2015 its price equivalent intel CPU was a i5-41X0, which was slow in most multithreaded apps and not faster enough in games when paired to a $200-300 GPU.

 

[Bomby569]

AMD "our friends"

 

[JAB Creations]

This is why I hate reading comments from corporate apologists, who pretend to understand business, who think they understand economics and capitalism, and the balance between the two..

I built 5900x machine after the prices stabilised in fall 2021, but when they weren't acceptable, I advised my friend an Intel machine in winter 2020 because AMD was price gouging at that time..

Progress from capitalism view, and a genuine expectation from end users is, cost per unit performance coming down with each iteration. This is typically handled by introducing higher performance devices at the same tier with each iteration, without changing the price for that particular tier.

What we have witnessed from AMD recently is nothing short of price gouging, while initially suggesting how they are 'the last bastion of honest capitalism' against the price gouging competitors. Given the chance, they did exactly the same.

So yes, you can keep on riding your high horse, while the rest of us ensure that we try to get best bang for our buck without being mindless fanboys.

First off you're responding to my post though I'm only reading projection. I'm a business man, a capitalist and a gamer. I want AMD to stabilize their business because they don't have foundries and communist-occupied China is a threat to AMD no less than Intel is. If you don't have money for R&D, if you don't have money to out bid your direct competitor intentionally going to TSMC and buying up fab capacity before you can then you will go out of business or at best continue to limp along.

Fan boy? This is one of many pictures I have on my system. Perhaps you should inquire first before you jump to making baseless accusations.

Says the guy with AMD 8350 LOL
Only people who bought the FX chips are people who didn't care about money or performance only that it has the AMD sticker.

Says the guy who had the option of buying a Ryzen 1600 instead of a $4,000 Celeron because of people like me who actually comprehend what happens when monopolies win in a corrupt world. Before you go making lame attempts at putting other people down go in to your bathroom, look in the mirror and ask yourself what, if anything, you've contributed to society.

 

[r9]

First off you're responding to my post though I'm only reading projection. I'm a business man, a capitalist and a gamer. I want AMD to stabilize their business because they don't have foundries and communist-occupied China is a threat to AMD no less than Intel is. If you don't have money for R&D, if you don't have money to out bid your direct competitor intentionally going to TSMC and buying up fab capacity before you can then you will go out of business or at best continue to limp along.

Fan boy? This is one of many pictures I have on my system. Perhaps you should inquire first before you jump to making baseless accusations.
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Says the guy who had the option of buying a Ryzen 1600 instead of a $4,000 Celeron because of people like me who actually comprehend what happens when monopolies win in a corrupt world. Before you go making lame attempts at putting other people down go in to your bathroom, look in the mirror and ask yourself what, if anything, you've contributed to society.

I called on your BS that's my contribution.
Society, you are welcome!

Joking aside AMD doing well was in everybody's best interest even if you are a die hard Intel fan.
Just look at the prices of Intel CPUs these days it's not because of the sudden goodness of the heart of Intel for sure.
With that said AMD are really really milking it here.
Let's not forget Ryzen was a crapshoot but people still buy it because was priced well and like me a lot of people wanted to see AMD do good.
But in their current trajectory next time the wheel turns people might not feel so charitable towards it.

Since I got one used a few years back, it was THE deal vs its price comparable i5s back then. And when being new in 2015 its price equivalent intel CPU was a i5-41X0, which was slow in most multithreaded apps and not faster enough in games when paired to a $200-300 GPU.

I get it I'm the same way. I don't care about who makes it and for most of the time there are no good or bad CPUs/GPUs it all depends for how much you get it.
Example Ryzen 5600x at $300 I thought was terrible choice they dropped it to $180 I think it's a pretty good CPU now.
But FX series were garbage at almost at any price let's be real here.

People saying AMD "destroying" Intel when only at times they might get a marginal win by 1% in games just look at the above charts 50% slower that's just ridiculous.

 

[mrnagant]

Not too surprising honestly. Later this year Intel announced that they will be raising prices 10~20% across the board on their processors. Everyone has been raising prices across all kinds of markets. 10~13% increase from AMD on their new stuff sucks yes, but it also sadly isn't surprising.

Hopefully these price increases will be just limited to any new product such as Zen4, AM5 and RDNA3 and not their existing product catalog.

 

[Zareek]

Inflation blah, blah, blah... Just another way to say corporations and the rich get richer at the cost of every day consumers. If I got a raise that matched inflation, I would think differently but I haven't had an employer who does that in over 10 years.

 

[JAB Creations]

Inflation blah, blah, blah... Just another way to say corporations and the rich get richer at the cost of every day consumers. If I got a raise that matched inflation, I would think differently but I haven't had an employer who does that in over 10 years.

Wait, so you actually think that the corporations and the people working in them want inflation? Because if the fake fiat currency in your pockets inherently loses value because someone somewhere else prints more fake fiat currency that enriches the corporate world how exactly? Even when some of the corporate gain unlawfully from the FEDERAL RESERVE it's few and everyone else gets screwed. Your statement implies literally all corporations and people in those corporations.

You want a raise? Did you ask for a raise? Are you working someplace that gives raises or did you find a job that was easy to get that just anyone could get? When you oversimplify life you end up not only villainizing literally everyone you also end up eliminating your opportunities. The fast food places where I'm at are now offering $16+ an hour because no one wants to work at them any more. I have literally met an illegal alien who was making $100 an hour working in the oil industry. Choose: excuses or the attitude and effort to improve your income.

 

[mama]

Interesting comment on the alleged prices...

 

[Soul_]

First off you're responding to my post though I'm only reading projection. I'm a business man, a capitalist and a gamer. I want AMD to stabilize their business because they don't have foundries and communist-occupied China is a threat to AMD no less than Intel is. If you don't have money for R&D, if you don't have money to out bid your direct competitor intentionally going to TSMC and buying up fab capacity before you can then you will go out of business or at best continue to limp along.

Fan boy? This is one of many pictures I have on my system. Perhaps you should inquire first before you jump to making baseless accusations.
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Says the guy who had the option of buying a Ryzen 1600 instead of a $4,000 Celeron because of people like me who actually comprehend what happens when monopolies win in a corrupt world. Before you go making lame attempts at putting other people down go in to your bathroom, look in the mirror and ask yourself what, if anything, you've contributed to society.

Doesn't matter who you are responding to, your message was still quite telling.

So let me get this right, all of a sudden the R&D which was funded at max operating margin of 6.47% (since launch of Ryzen till Q3 2019) and max net margin of 5.2% (during the same period) that created Ryzen 5xxx (Zen 3), is suddenly not enough with leverage of operating margin at 26.72% while still high net margin of 20.27% with 3 times the revenue difference between the two timelines? At this point, I don't think you know much about finance or business.

 

[Zareek]

Wait, so you actually think that the corporations and the people working in them want inflation? Because if the fake fiat currency in your pockets inherently loses value because someone somewhere else prints more fake fiat currency that enriches the corporate world how exactly? Even when some of the corporate gain unlawfully from the FEDERAL RESERVE it's few and everyone else gets screwed. Your statement implies literally all corporations and people in those corporations.

Wow, thanks for putting words in my mouth. I didn't say anything close to that. Corporate greed created the most recent inflation. It's very simple, look at the profits of major corporations. All-time record profits, and who pays for it?

You want a raise? Did you ask for a raise? Are you working someplace that gives raises or did you find a job that was easy to get that just anyone could get? When you oversimplify life you end up not only villainizing literally everyone you also end up eliminating your opportunities. The fast food places where I'm at are now offering $16+ an hour because no one wants to work at them any more. I have literally met an illegal alien who was making $100 an hour working in the oil industry. Choose: excuses or the attitude and effort to improve your income.

Someone has a different perspective than you, so they must be part of the problem! I love the personal attacks on my character because I expect businesses to value their employees and to not be greedy. From the three sentences I posted, please assume that I am a loser, that I don't have a white collar job and that I didn't get the best raise my company gives out for this year. Here on earth, not many companies will match inflation when it is almost 10 percent, but go ahead assume everything because I don't blame the government for the corporate greed and unfettered profiteering.

 

[kanecvr]

Joking aside AMD doing well was in everybody's best interest even if you are a die hard Intel fan.
Just look at the prices of Intel CPUs these days it's not because of the sudden goodness of the heart of Intel for sure.
With that said AMD are really really milking it here.
Let's not forget Ryzen was a crapshoot but people still buy it because was priced well and like me a lot of people wanted to see AMD do good.
But in their current trajectory next time the wheel turns people might not feel so charitable towards it.

While I did consider myself an AMD fan for the longest time - I agree with you. When a company increases prices like what AMD is doing - it started with the 5000 generation really, where they priced their products over intel's - I usually go with the competition. The bigger the price difference, the more I want to avoid the more expensive product, as long as the cheaper one isn't a complete dumpster fire like bulldozer was.

This is true in case of video cards as well. Take the 3060ti vs RX 6700XT vs RTX 3070 as an example. Nvidia prices the 3060ti higher (at least in my country) then the 6700XT despite it being on average ~8-10% slower. Even in nvidia's lineup, the 3060ti is only 10-12% slower then the 3070, but despite this the 3070 commands 35-45% higher price (2773.08 RON for the cheapest 3060 ti vs 3.763,09 RON for the cheapest 3070 in stock). Now I don't know about you guys but I'm not willing to pay 1000 lei (~200$ tax included) more for 10% more FPS....

These kinds of things influence my purchases - so as it stands, I'll be jumping a tier lower (AGAIN) when it comes to video cards. In 2014?(ish) I realized that purchasing a GTX 980 vs a 970 isn't worth it due to the same reason, so both me an my brother in law went for the 970. Then next generation for the 1070 witch wasn't that much slower then the 1080 but was noticeably cheaper. I'm not even going to mention the 1080ti or the titan. Now it looks like I'll be going down the the "06" mid range models because they make most sense from a price performance point of view.

As for AMD, I did get an AMD 5xxx series powered laptop last year and I'm very happy with - the prices seemed very fair especially considering the prices of GPUs in October 2021 when I got it. But in spring this year I wanted to build a fast mITX PC to keep under my TV, something with a decent iGPU, so I wanted to go with AMD again, specifically the 5700g - but damn were they expensive. I still got one, but got it for 2/3 the price on some online auction site / marketplace, sealed, with no warranty.

If this kind of behavior keeps up - and it will - my next CPU will be Intel. Haven't had an intel chip since my trusty old 3930k, but like I said, I'll go for best value for money. I've already given up on nvidia, and am currently considering if it's worth ordering an extremely well priced 6700xt or wait for RX 7000 series and intel's ark 770 for my desktop. Possibly a 7600 since I fully expect AMD to copy nvidia and create a large price gap between producs that have very close performance.

 

[JAB Creations]

Doesn't matter who you are responding to, your message was still quite telling.

So let me get this right, all of a sudden the R&D which was funded at max operating margin of 6.47% (since launch of Ryzen till Q3 2019) and max net margin of 5.2% (during the same period) that created Ryzen 5xxx (Zen 3), is suddenly not enough with leverage of operating margin at 26.72% while still high net margin of 20.27% with 3 times the revenue difference between the two timelines? At this point, I don't think you know much about finance or business.

I am glad you have nothing to do with AMD because the people at AMD are intelligent enough to know that technology changes and they'll either be able to afford to adapt and evolve with the ever rising costs or go out of business. You clearly don't know how to run a business much less one in technology and are the kind of person who would in a drought feed their fields with Mountain Dew.

 

[Melvis]

Pentium 4 EE Edition back in like 2005 cost over a $1000 and that was for 1core, so.......

 

[Soul_]

I am glad you have nothing to do with AMD because the people at AMD are intelligent enough to know that technology changes and they'll either be able to afford to adapt and evolve with the ever rising costs or go out of business. You clearly don't know how to run a business much less one in technology and are the kind of person who would in a drought feed their fields with Mountain Dew.

Then how about you refute a single fact up there, without diving into the gutters of personal attacks?

 

[HenrySomeone]

So, how does it feel getting bent over, ardent team red ... fans (to say the least )? You'll be able to get a 20 thread i5 13500 for around $200 mark (and likely less by this year's black friday), while the lowest of the zen4 bunch, the (still!) 12 thread 7600x will be going for at least $350, maybe even more in the first couple months (if zen3 "launch" is anything to go by). You'll really have to go deep down in the bag of excuses this time, I can hardly wait to see all the creativity put to good use!