Boost Frequencies of the All-important Core i5-13400 and i5-13500 Revealed

[btarunr]

When it releases, the Core i5-13400 will join a long like of Intel processors that are extremely successful in the market—chips that are priced around the $200-mark, and bang in the middle of the market bell-curve. Other chips in the lineup include the i5-12400, i5-11400, i5-10400, and the i5-9400. With the 13th Generation "Raptor Lake," Intel is configuring the i5-13400, i5-13500, and the i5-13600 (non-K) as 6P+4E processors (that's 6 "Raptor Cove" P-cores with 4 "Gracemont" E-cores); whereas their 12th Gen predecessors only had 6 "Golden Cove" P-cores, and no E-cores. The top Core i5 part, the i5-13600K, will stand out featuring a 6P+8E configuration.

Maximum boost frequencies of the Core i5-13400 and i5-13500 surfaced on the web thanks to Passmark screenshots scored by TUM_APISAK. Boost frequencies of 13th Gen Core processors weren't part of the recent lineup leak. The i5-13400 has a maximum boost frequency of 4.10 GHz, while the i5-13500 comes with 4.50 GHz. Both SKUs have an identical base frequency of 2.50 GHz. The maximum turbo frequency of 4.10 GHz for the i5-13400 is significantly lower than the 5.80 GHz of the flagship i9-13900K, and the 5.10 GHz of the i5-13600K. It's also quite spaced apart from the i5-13500, with its 4.50 GHz. Perhaps Intel really wants some consumer interest in the Core i5 SKUs positioned between the i5-13400 and the i5-13600K.



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[Jimmy_]

ummmm... they have added the atom to their i5 lineups, which looks pretty interesting. Mostly their i5 is purely the value of money for mid-range PC builders. Intel is taking back slowly but needs to see zen4 price to performance no. This freq are pretty decent but how much will IPC gain than the 12th gen? ~10-15% or less than that?

 

[Ellertis]

ummmm... they have added the atom to their i5 lineups, which looks pretty interesting. Mostly their i5 is purely the value of money for mid-range PC builders. Intel is taking back slowly but needs to see zen4 price to performance no. This freq are pretty decent but how much will IPC gain than the 12th gen? ~10-15% or less than that?

It seem to be around 5-7%, so yeah, a zen4 5+ghz should be faster at single core that raptor cove AFAIK

 

[Garrus]

ummmm... they have added the atom to their i5 lineups, which looks pretty interesting. Mostly their i5 is purely the value of money for mid-range PC builders. Intel is taking back slowly but needs to see zen4 price to performance no. This freq are pretty decent but how much will IPC gain than the 12th gen? ~10-15% or less than that?

Basically as usual, you will be better off buying the cheapest Ryzen 7000 chip that allows overclocking. 5Ghz versus 4.1Ghz won't be pretty. Same price. And it sounds like 5Ghz will be a minor OC, low power and voltage.

 

[Daven]

It seem to be around 5-7%, so yeah, a zen4 5+ghz should be faster at single core that raptor cove AFAIK

It looks more like 1-2% increase in IPC according to recent leaks.

 

[bug]

ummmm... they have added the atom to their i5 lineups, which looks pretty interesting. Mostly their i5 is purely the value of money for mid-range PC builders. Intel is taking back slowly but needs to see zen4 price to performance no. This freq are pretty decent but how much will IPC gain than the 12th gen? ~10-15% or less than that?

It's not exactly adding an Atom. E-cores on ADL are about as powerful as a Skylake core

 

[Daven]

It's not exactly adding an Atom. E-cores on ADL are about as powerful as a Skylake core

Does Intel even sell any proper Atoms anymore?

 

[bug]

Does Intel even sell any proper Atoms anymore?

Believe it or not, they do: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Atom_processors#Tremont_microarchitecture_2

 

[dj-electric]

Slowly and surely, it seems as Raptor Lake is here to understand it has competition, and being based on an already existing and widespread platform in the retail market might give it a leg up in this competition.
With a grain of salt, leaks have been more optimistic than pessimistic regarding Raptor Lake's capabilities. All of us enjoy this as consumers.

 

[P4-630]

I'm waiting for the i7 13700K reviews....

 

[Daven]

Believe it or not, they do: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Atom_processors#Tremont_microarchitecture_2

Wow I had no idea that Snow and Parker Ridge even existed. That's quite the SKU spread and just released back in June. Unless I missed it, there didn't seem to be much in the way of widespread reporting on the release.

 

[strangerre]

i bet this is probably still early ES/not what'll come out,13400 has lower boosts than the 12400.

 

[bug]

Wow I had no idea that Snow and Parker Ridge even existed. That's quite the SKU spread and just released back in June. Unless I missed it, there didn't seem to be much in the way of widespread reporting on the release.

I didn't know either, I never followed Atom. I had to look that up.

 

[Jimmy_]

It's not exactly adding an Atom. E-cores on ADL are about as powerful as a Skylake core

Yeah, i m pretty aware of those E core abilities

Does Intel even sell any proper Atoms anymore?

it does:

 

[konga]

There's no way these are final clock speeds. The 13400 boost speed is way too low.

 

[mahirzukic2]

There's no way these are final clock speeds. The 13400 boost speed is way too low.

That's the whole point. To you make you, pardon me, incentivise you to go higher, and needless to say spend more money in the process.

 

[btarunr]

There's no way these are final clock speeds. The 13400 boost speed is way too low.

They want you to buy the 13500 for 10-15% more $$ than the 13400.

 

[Ellertis]

That's the whole point. To you make you, pardon me, incentivise you to go higher, and needless to say spend more money in the process.

Well, they should keep

They want you to buy the 13500 for 10-15% more $$ than the 13400.

wow, binning 101

 

[bug]

They want you to buy the 13500 for 10-15% more $$ than the 13400.

Imho, that's still better than having SKU spaced by $30-50 and only ~5% perf. It's just better segmentation.

 

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[defaultluser]

ill probably pick the 13500 up when AMD invariably charges 250 for the 7600x (but if the make 7700x the same price, I go am5)

 

[Bloax]

Today I was bored and decided to check out DDR4 at 0.9v System Agent (what non-K processors are locked at, for some reason)

(this is 2x8 with viper steel 4000 16-16-16 sticks, p.s. rdrd/wrwr _sg 8 usually outperforms 6 in 2x8 real 1T, until tRAS/tRC becomes very very low like here - how curious)

Conclusion was that it's "fine" for videogames that aren't bandwidth hungry.
Will suck vs. DDR5 for throughput-oriented tasks, but that's not what corner-cutting gaming builds should care about.

Well, you know - just in case you wanted to use a non-K BCLK OC DDR4 board* for these processors to get an input latency-oriented setup rather than a (DDR5) throughput-oriented one.
Because let's be honest, why would you run 4.1 Ghz on a processor that probably does 5.1 Ghz 100% of the time?

* (ASRock B660M PG Riptide, MSI MAG B660M MORTAR MAX WIFI DDR4, in case you're curious)

 

[ppn]

Those are Alder lake rebrands right. The frequency being low is not an issue. I believe this is the all core all time frequency of 4.1 so there is some improvement compared to 12400, 11400, 10400 that were stuck on 4.00 like forever. Again not a problem, i guess the memory speed or latency also matters.

AMD has nothing on them, 5500 turned out to be so much worse than 5600. And 7000 won't be an option for a while with the cost of DDR5 and AM5.
Unless 7600X costs $200 mobo and 32 ram another $200. But 6 core is not enough already. We need a mainstream 8 core.

13600K with 20 threads is overkill, a botched 10 Core, a 6 core++ most of the time, since 2 threads Pcore is roughly equal to 2 threads ecore.

 

[RedelZaVedno]

Only 4.1 GHz on 13400? That's stupid, even 12400 clocks to 4.4GHz stock. The best budget option is to get 12400F and pair it with MSI B660M mortar MAX or ASrock B660M PG Riptide. Overclock it to 5.2GHz through BCLK frequency adjustment and you get a gaming beast rivaling 12700K, for a fraction of the price.

 

[Garrus]

ill probably pick the 13500 up when AMD invariably charges 250 for the 7600x (but if the make 7700x the same price, I go am5)

The 13600 and 13500 etc. are Alder Lake rebrands, "not" Raptor Lake. The 7600X will have next gen IPC and clock speed capability. As I mentioned earlier you can just go in the BIOS and set the AMD product to 5Ghz and it won't even need much power, why would you want to get the much slower 13500 instead? Also AMD has iGPU now included.