Intel 700-series Chipset Motherboards Feature Higher Memory OC Headroom Complementing That of "Raptor Lake"

[btarunr]

Intel 700-series chipset motherboards could come with improved memory overclocking capabilities, suggest an alleged leaked specs-sheet of an MSI Intel Z790 chipset motherboard. As the pioneering platform for DDR5, Intel 600-series chipset motherboards, particularly those based on the Z690, typically marketed DDR5 memory overclock speeds of around DDR5-6000 or DDR5-6200 in their specs sheets, as the then-expensive DDR5 memory kits started at JEDEC-spec speeds of DDR5-4800 in the entry-level, with performance-segment kits around the DDR5-6000 mark.

The unnamed MSI Z790 chipset motherboard supports DDR5 overclocked frequencies of over DDR5-6800 at 1DPC (one DIMM per channel) with single-rank modules; over DDR5-6400 with 1DPC + dual-rank modules; over DDR5-6400 with 2DPC + single-rank modules; and over DDR5-5600 with 2DPC + dual-rank. Earlier reports suggested that Intel is "discouraging" motherboard vendors from coming up with 700-series motherboards that feature DDR4 memory slots, but this doesn't mean there won't be any. MSI has an Intel Z790 motherboard with DDR4 slots in the works, and it's capable of overclocks of up to DDR4-5000 in the most optimal configuration, and DDR4-4000 in the least optimal one.



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[Hossein Almet]

Damn, I have a 16G DDR4-3600 memory stick! Should I buy a 13400K to go with it or buy the 7600X and buy a new DDR5 memory? Decision, decision!

 

[Dirt Chip]

Interesting to see how many AM4 users will switch to RL in DDR4 variant just to save the memory cost of upgrade.
This might be the deciding point to many "I don't need the maximum performance possible at all cost" users that want to upgrade but need to save $.

 

[Crackong]

Interesting to see how many AM4 users will switch to RL in DDR4 variant just to save the memory cost of upgrade.
This might be the deciding point to many "I don't need the maximum performance possible at all cost" users that want to upgrade but need to save $.

As an AM4 user,
If I wanna both 'upgrade' and 'save the money'
I could simply wait and see if the rumored Zen4 on AM4 is true, or pick up a 5800X3D when it is dirt cheap.

 

[GreiverBlade]

Interesting to see how many AM4 users will switch to RL in DDR4 variant just to save the memory cost of upgrade.
This might be the deciding point to many "I don't need the maximum performance possible at all cost" users that want to upgrade but need to save $.

As an AM4 user,
If I wanna both 'upgrade' and 'save the money'
I could simply wait and see if the rumored Zen4 on AM4 is true, or pick up a 5800X3D when it is dirt cheap.

^this

well 5700X 5800X 5900X 5950X are dropping in price at my local retailer atm, the 5800X3D is currently nearing the 450chf mark...
a 5700X was the first option (249chf)

but i want to see Zen4 on AM4 too ... my mobo is excellent for a mid range, my R5 3600 is still bang for bucks (specially since i got that one free, but even at the seen price of 169chf it would be )

 

[HenrySomeone]

As an AM4 user,
If I wanna both 'upgrade' and 'save the money'
I could simply wait and see if the rumored Zen4 on AM4 is true, or pick up a 5800X3D when it is dirt cheap.

I don't see the x3D ever getting "dirt cheap". They are far more likely to pull the plug on its production before that happens and use that capacity for zen4x3d. The highest tier chip that might get there eventually is probably 5900x.

but i want to see Zen4 on AM4 too ... my mobo is excellent for a mid range, my R5 3600 is still bang for bucks (specially since i got that one free, but even at the seen price of 169chf it would be )

They might very well be forced to, or they will get themselves completely priced out of the mainstream market with their ddr5-only new platform and expensive motherboards.

 

[Taraquin]

Still loads of 4 dimm boards even if it adds complexity, reduced ram oc potential and takes up space. In my experience, less than 10% use 4 dimms. I wish 2 dimm was the standard.

 

[HenrySomeone]

Still loads of 4 dimm boards even if it adds complexity, reduced ram oc potential and takes up space. In my experience, less than 10% use 4 dimms. I wish 2 dimm was the standard.

I don't. Many years ago, I got a new computer with 2 ram slots and it initially had 2x512mb. I relatively quickly decided to upgrade and was forced to buy 2x1gb and then a couple years later again to 2x2gb. Just recently I've put together a rig for a friend and got ahold of a really affordable 32gb set of 4 sticks (3600 cl 16). Works flawlessly out of the box at the rated speed (z590) with nothing but enabling xmp in the bios.

 

[Dirt Chip]

^this

well 5700X 5800X 5900X 5950X are dropping in price at my local retailer atm, the 5800X3D is currently nearing the 450chf mark...
a 5700X was the first option (249chf)

but i want to see Zen4 on AM4 too ... my mobo is excellent for a mid range, my R5 3600 is still bang for bucks (specially since i got that one free, but even at the seen price of 169chf it would be )

If you are OK with your mobo IO then obviously, upgrade just the CPU.

I'm talking about going with a new mobo (AMD 370\470 will look quite 'slim' compering Intel's 770).
Choosing DDR4 770 (or 'older' 670) can offset some of the mobo increase cost.

If, and that's a big one IMO, AMD will let zen4 on AM4 thay will have a hit!
But i doubt it...

 

[Space Lynx]

ram overclocking has always been so hard to keep stable if you push too high, I just never saw the point. mild/medium oc's always seem to work great, high oc'ing of ram just never works for me, too many variables, just isn't worth the hassle for an extra 5 fps on average. but to each their own I suppose.

 

[Taraquin]

I don't. Many years ago, I got a new computer with 2 ram slots and it initially had 2x512mb. I relatively quickly decided to upgrade and was forced to buy 2x1gb and then a couple years later again to 2x2gb. Just recently I've put together a rig for a friend and got ahold of a really affordable 32gb set of 4 sticks (3600 cl 16). Works flawlessly out of the box at the rated speed (z590) with nothing but enabling xmp in the bios.

I have no issue with a 50/50 mix of 2 dimm/4 dimm, but as it stands now only ITX or very high end 500usd+ boards on Intel Z-series have 2 dimms. On AMD there are atleast some budget mATX boards with 2 dimms, on Intel there is none.

 

[big_glasses]

I don't. Many years ago, I got a new computer with 2 ram slots and it initially had 2x512mb. I relatively quickly decided to upgrade and was forced to buy 2x1gb and then a couple years later again to 2x2gb. Just recently I've put together a rig for a friend and got ahold of a really affordable 32gb set of 4 sticks (3600 cl 16). Works flawlessly out of the box at the rated speed (z590) with nothing but enabling xmp in the bios.

I got bit in the "behind" for that kind of thing recently.
Had bought a cheap mobo with 2 ram slot, but quickly needed to upgrade the RAM, and thus had to buy 2 new higher capacity sticks, instead of 2 new of same type
#FutureProofing

 

[Bomby569]

Still loads of 4 dimm boards even if it adds complexity, reduced ram oc potential and takes up space. In my experience, less than 10% use 4 dimms. I wish 2 dimm was the standard.

you're right obviously except those 10%, no way that is right, should be much much higher. There is a lots of reasons people end up with 4 dimms, and besides i would say 90% don't care to OC ram over the rated xmp spec, so it's not an issue for most.

 

[HenrySomeone]

you're right obviously except those 10%, no way that is right, should be much much higher. There is a lots of reasons people end up with 4 dimms, and besides i would say 90% don't care to OC ram over the rated xmp spec, so it's not an issue for most.

Maybe it's closer to true for new systems, but adding more ram (together with swapping a gpu once in a system's lifecycle) is the most common upgrade people do, even those that aren't hardcore enthusiasts.

 

[Taraquin]

you're right obviously except those 10%, no way that is right, should be much much higher. There is a lots of reasons people end up with 4 dimms, and besides i would say 90% don't care to OC ram over the rated xmp spec, so it's not an issue for most.

I've built and upgraded a lot of pc's over the years. Most people don't uograde ram, most users don't activate xmp, most pc's come with 1 or 2 sticks on a 4 dimm mobo. I still value 4 dimm, but I would like there to be a lot more options for us that do OC/tune ram. A 50/50 share of 2/4 dimm would be great.

 

[1d10t]

"Made" a new chipset just to increase RAM overclocking capabilities, and I bet it'll cost more than already existing Z690. Just wow.

 

[HenrySomeone]

"Made" a new chipset just to increase RAM overclocking capabilities, and I bet it'll cost more than already existing Z690. Just wow.

You do realize you'll still be able to put 13th gen on z690, right? Or b660 for that matter, unlike zen4 where you'll be forced to go x670, at least in the beginning.