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Intel 13th Gen Core "Raptor Lake" Launch and Availability Dates Confirmed

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Well, a 12900k at 125w power limit scores 24 to 24.5k in cbr23. In tpus testing it scores 18k. Which doesnt make any sense, since that's how much a 12600k scores at same wattage, something that is literally impossible. The same pretty much applies to the rest of his testing, the power limited numbers are all off, some of them even by up to 70%

You have to consider the designs as a whole. Less E cores in the design will mean better efficiency by extension relative to P cores. Round 1 goes to the 12600K on efficiency. You have to consider turbo frequencies and base frequencies of each chip, but it's important to also look those variables for both E cores and P cores of each CPU in question. The 12900K boosts higher on E cores and P cores, but with lower base clocks on E cores and P cores relative to the 12600K. That's not really favorable either since higher frequency is going to be better in a power limit test comparing peak multi-thread CPU utilization. Round 2 therefore goes to the 12600K once again. The 12900K is better for performance scores to make it look like it's punching above it's weight more than it really is if efficiency is important to you which with rising electrical costs and environmental aspects should be a bit, but isn't to everyone in any case it's adequately fair criticism even if it doesn't apply to you personally.

I know you think W1zzard was wrong because the score isn't what you want, but perhaps trust the guys testing methodologies a bit he's ran a few benchmarks here and there. I don't believe he was intentionally trying to make the+ 12900K look inferior to the 12600K if efficiency is important to someone, but guess what the results are pretty cut and dry he just put random numbers in a hat to pull out and say this was the score for each. He's a W1zzard not a M4ggician. I don't know why you think adding more E cores will automatically improve efficiency when they were designed for MT uplift and have lower IPC than P cores. Either way it's a hot take you'd think it so.
 
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Less E cores in the design will mean better efficiency by extension relative to P cores. Round 1 goes to the 12600K on efficiency.
Nope, you are absolutely horribly wrong. Less Ecores means the Pcores have to boost even higher, pushing them to even more inefficient clockspeeds territory.

That's not really favorable either since higher frequency is going to be better in a power limit test comparing peak multi-thread CPU utilization. Round 2 therefore goes to the 12600K once again.
Nope, you are still wrong. The 12900k will shit all over the 12600k in every MT workload, no matter what you decided to power limit it to. It's not even a question.

I know you think W1zzard was wrong because the score isn't what you want, but perhaps trust the guys testing methodologies a bit he's ran a few benchmarks here and there.
Nope, you are yet again wrong. I don't think wizzard is wrong, he IS wrong, regardless of what I say other reviewers have verified it. Club365 scored 23600 in CBR23 at 125w. That's it, case closed.
 
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The max turbo on the 12600K is lower than that of the 12900K. That's true of both P cores and E cores in fact. Hell the E core turbo on the 12900K is higher than the base frequency of the P core on the 12600K. Also it's with a power limit. So other reviewers tested with the same test hardware and same testing conditions!!?
 
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The max turbo on the 12600K is lower than that of the 12900K. That's true of both P cores and E cores in fact. Hell the E core turbo on the 12900K is higher than the base frequency of the P core on the 12600K. Also it's with a power limit. So other reviewers tested with the same test hardware and same testing conditions!!?
What do you mean same testing condition? The only thing you should change is the power limit, and yes, my own + other reviews I already mentioned show a huge difference.
 
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AMD you mean? I mean it seems they all need undervolting/tweaking to keep them from running too hot at stock speed....
An even more pushed design in the same 10nm node as the already hot Gen12. Do I have to remind you how Gen 11 did in 14nm?
I'm getting tired of the Intel zero-efficiency designs. Just rebrand Pentium D again.
 
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Well there's a small gaggle of Zen 4 results on Geekbench now.

Based on those, I think Raptor Lake will do well against Zen 4 when the reviews come out.

12600K on Gigabyte UD DDR4 Z690 vs 7600X on MSI MEG X670E and DDR5 :


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What is up with that memory, is there something about DDR5 that makes it register as 27GB

I noticed that too. That same person has posted a bunch of benchmarks using 7600X and 7950X and they all have that anomaly.
 
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What is up with that memory, is there something about DDR5 that makes it register as 27GB

My best guess is that they probably used the advanced boot options to limit memory. These results are pretty pointless to decipher without knowing the actual memory kits involved DDR4 vs DDR5 tells us jacksh*t about the quality of the kits for each.
 
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