EVGA Announces Cancelation of NVIDIA Next-gen Graphics Cards Plans, Officially Terminates NVIDIA Partnership

[Fouquin]

But according to one YouTuber

And the rest of your argument is now invalid. Thanks for playing.

 

[R-T-B]

This one? Even after reading it, I'm still left wondering: what does it say then?

You are missing context at the end that is not posted.

Essentially, the adapters are a fire hazard if used improperly outside their intended use case. That's the context you are missing.

I really would love it if they’d partner with Intel Arc. They need a strong AIB partner.

I would too, but first ARC has to be worth buying. Hopefully it will get there.

 

[Dr. Dro]

Nvidia is being hated by more and more people for their shady business practices. When it's all confirmed by their partners leaving them, they'll have to see that something has to change (I know it won't).

Unfortunately, much like amongst the Apple patronage, the average joe doesn't really care about their anti-competitive practices or their black box approach that is extremely hostile to user-modification and open-source development. As for me, it's safe to say this RTX 3090 may very well be the last NVIDIA GPU I will own in the foreseeable future.

 

[RandallFlagg]

Especially if AMD comes out with APUs with RDNA3 onboard.

Yes, that's what I'm thinking, from both Intel and AMD.

But AMD is already going to deal a blow to the dGPU market with Zen 4. Consider, for like 12+ months every single Zen 3 sold *had* to have a dGPU. And even now, all the high performance 'X' Zen 3 *have* to have a dGPU.

Not everyone cares about GPUs, in fact *most* PC users don't care about that. I think dGPU market penetration hit 30-35% at its recent height during Covid lockdowns, and it is normally more like 20-25%. So basically, if we say AMD gets 20% of the desktop market, that's roughly 50M PCs.

If just half of those people who buy AMD do not buy a dGPU because they are fine with the iGPU, then that is 25M fewer dGPUs that will sell in the next year. And I'd bet it will be more than half.

 

[R-T-B]

Holy meadow muffins Batman! What the actual hell EVGA? You make the best cards in the industry! What the hell are we going to do now?

I'm going to be looking at another vendor to shortlist, that's for sure. Any advice on a good partner nvidia side? I already have my "whitelist" AMD side. And of course I always consult reviews.

EVGA actually shipped me a few cards that were outright awful, I won't lie. One of them killed PCIe sockets. But they made up for it by paying for the damage and issuing a hefty store credit. Rare to see a company own up to it's mistake like that. I for one will miss them.

The majority of their products have not caused me any issues.

 

[AusWolf]

I'm going to be looking at another vendor to shortlist, that's for sure. Any advice on a good partner nvidia side? I already have my "whitelist" AMD side. And of course I always consult reviews.

EVGA actually shipped me a few cards that were outright awful, I won't lie. One of them killed PCIe sockets. But they made up for it by paying for the damage and issuing a hefty store credit. Rare to see a company owe up to it's mistake like that. I for one will miss them.

The majority of their products have not caused me any issues.

I will miss them too. They were probably the most user-friendly bunch of all. The rest could learn from them how to do RMA and sales (direct order and queuing on their own website during the shortage).

This leaves my whitelist with Asus only, unfortunately. MSi has a few decent cards, but it's kind of a hit-and-miss and their software is awful. Zotac and Palit cards seem to be pretty basic, which is nice in the low/mid-tier, but I'm not sure I would trust them in the high-end. Gigabyte is a big no-no for me. That's it for the UK partners, I'm afraid.

 

[cerulliber]

american EVGA done, means chinese Colorful iGame Kudan will be the fastest nVidia card period.
untill another company will emerge.

 

[matar]

What No way... this is like XFX back in the days i used to by Nvidia XFX like 8800GTX then they stopped Nvidia but they went to ATi now its AMD and now EVGA just completely Stopped

 

[nguyen]

I will miss them too. They were probably the most user-friendly bunch of all. The rest could learn from them how to do RMA and sales (direct order and queuing on their own website during the shortage).

This leaves my whitelist with Asus only, unfortunately. MSi has a few decent cards, but it's kind of a hit-and-miss and their software is awful. Zotac and Palit cards seem to be pretty basic, which is nice in the low/mid-tier, but I'm not sure I would trust them in the high-end. Gigabyte is a big no-no for me. That's it for the UK partners, I'm afraid.

Asus GPU are nice, even the cheapest models from Asus use better VRM components than EVGA high-ends

 

[AusWolf]

Asus GPU are nice, even the cheapest models from Asus use better VRM components than EVGA high-ends

True. Although, I liked Evga for their simplicity. They were probably the last to force RGB onto every card they sold, and even then it was discreet.

I was thinking about selling my Evga 2070 as it's only been collecting dust for months, but considering this news, I'll keep it as a memento.

 

[R0H1T]

Unfortunately, much like amongst the Apple patronage, the average joe doesn't really care about their anti-competitive practices or their black box approach that is extremely hostile to user-modification and open-source development. As for me, it's safe to say this RTX 3090 may very well be the last NVIDIA GPU I will own in the foreseeable future.

Their (loyal) user base isn't that big, Apple's got at least 10x more sheep behind their piper! If gaming goes to the gutter you'll see the (same) kinds of length Intel went to, to now compete with AMD. That one line, from Nvidia, Steve mentioned in one of his videos was quite telling ~ We don't compete on price.

Well you effin do, you just haven't realized accepted that yet

 

[AusWolf]

Their (loyal) user base isn't that big, Apple's got at least 10x more sheep behind their piper! If gaming goes to the gutter you'll see the (same) kinds of length Intel went to, to now compete with AMD. That one line, from Nvidia, Steve mentioned in one of his videos was quite telling ~ We don't compete on price.

Well you effin do, you just haven't realized accepted that yet

That depends on the person. For me, it's true (they don't compete on price) as I wouldn't buy an Apple product for 1 quid.

 

[Dr. Dro]

Their (loyal) user base isn't that big, Apple's got at least 10x more sheep behind their piper! If gaming goes to the gutter you'll see the (same) kinds of length Intel went to, to now compete with AMD. That one line, from Nvidia, Steve mentioned in one of his videos was quite telling ~ We don't compete on price.

Well you effin do, you just haven't realized accepted that yet

Perhaps in absolute numbers, but in our PC realm, GeForce holds the overwhelming majority of the market share and has an unparalleled mindshare.

Radeon's fight is still very much uphill, even after the strides and inroads made by AMD with the exceptional performance of the RDNA 2 series, the commercial success of Ryzen and the "AMD Ryzen | Radeon" program. I know quite a few people that won't touch a red team graphics card with a barge pole, and yet these people are actually rather open-minded towards Intel, likely by association with their traditionally strong CPU lineup.

I don't think our gaming hobby is going to the gutter, though some rough seas might be ahead.

 

[TechLurker]

I'm half-expecting that their threat to terminate their GPU employees is mostly an attempt to get AMD or Intel to the negotiation table with favorable terms or they'd lose out and have to invest more to get EVGA to reclaim the staff.

Regardless, I'd like to see EVGA actually host both AMD and Intel; as their tuning division did lead to some pretty impressive projects both on the mobo side and the GPU side, and both AMD and Intel could stand to benefit from having an experienced team of OC'ers pushing their cards to the limit.

Personally, I'm a bit biased, and would love for EVGA to mostly become another AMD-exclusive GPU partner, especially one that can put out halo cards (KINGPIN) that rival that of GALAX' and Colorful's most extreme offerings (HOF and Kudan respectively), as well as further deepen their mobo support for AMD. The rest of AMD's GPU partners don't really go that extreme with their offerings (Sapphire's Toxic comes close), and neutral partners like ASUS are biased towards NVIDIA (their hybrid Matrix cooler being NVIDIA-only instead of both NVIDIA and Radeon).

 

[64K]

For those looking to replace EVGA I can recommend MSI cards. My last 4 cards have been MSI and they all lasted a long time. They generally get favorable reviews with the possible exception of the Ventus line.

 

[Chomiq]

Well I've been stuck in their queue since the Ampere launched, so that explains it.

 

[Zubasa]

That's the kind of thinking that led to this lmao.

Unfortunately this is the kind of mind set the vast majority of the GPU market shares.

Perhaps in absolute numbers, but in our PC realm, GeForce holds the overwhelming majority of the market share and has an unparalleled mindshare.

Radeon's fight is still very much uphill, even after the strides and inroads made by AMD with the exceptional performance of the RDNA 2 series, the commercial success of Ryzen and the "AMD Ryzen | Radeon" program. I know quite a few people that won't touch a red team graphics card with a barge pole, and yet these people are actually rather open-minded towards Intel, likely by association with their traditionally strong CPU lineup.

I don't think our gaming hobby is going to the gutter, though some rough seas might be ahead.

At least someone gets it.
It takes a lot to make nVidia budge at all at their current dominance.

 

[R0H1T]

I don't think our gaming hobby is going to the gutter, though some rough seas might be ahead.

Not necessarily PC gaming per se but a lot of GeForce "gaming" cards were sold to miners & that well has dried up, at least till the next mining boom which I hope never comes! As a percentage of the total spent on (computing) hardware that pie is also shrinking, though spends on electronics in general is going down as well in part because of market saturation. Basically IMO people are spending less on "discretionary" spends like gaming (hardware) than they used to & I believe this is going to be a trend going forward.

 

[Bwaze]

If it's Nvidia's fault, we will see other partners struggling too - EVGA was one of the biggest, healthiest.

Maybe they gambled, took a very, very large order of high end Ampere cards when the crypto buying wave was high, and then Nvidia pressured them to sell that in a market without buyers, but bound their hands with high minimum card price?

 

[R0H1T]

It takes a lot to make nVidia budge at all at their current dominance.

Right so let's stop buying their products unless you really have no alternative, speak with your vote wallet. Companies don't change on their own ~ never have & never will, you need to make them change!

 

[watzupken]

This news says a lot about partnering with Nvidia. And it shows it is not easy working with the likes of Nvidia. Given that EVGA sells GPU, and specifically Nvidia GPUs as their main product, throwing in the towel on Nvidia GPU also means that they lose a huge chunk of sales. To me, ending the partnership is a drastic move, and irrational if it is not for compelling reasons. I am not sure if EVGA partnering with the likes of AMD and Intel will ever help them recover sales like they did with Nvidia cards.

 

[claes]

I still can’t believe they made a public announcement before letting their employees know. Sure, they say they’re not going to lay people off, but good luck with that.

 

[ypsylon]

Wow, seriously. Just WOW!

Overwhelming majority of my GPUs are still EVGA and until Threadripper all my motherboards were exclusively from EVGA, but to be honest there was something in the air for past couple years.

EVGA basically abandoned EU market which in itself is suicidal if you care about profit margins. All replacements and new things are sent from Taiwan which added ridiculous amount of red tape. Recently EVGA ceased the EVGA bucks without any explanation why. Well now connecting the dots its pretty obvious why all of that happened.

Well, all I can say. Best of luck chaps and gals. You were sole beacon of light of the corporate IT World where consumer was paramount value. Never, ever experienced product support like EVGA. In one case guys even replaced my ESD dead X99 Classified for free (except 15Euro S&H) despite the fact it was couple months after the warranty period. Love you guys.

 

[HTC]

Right so let's stop buying their products unless you really have no alternative

I did that many years ago when i found out about "their business practices": i refuse to support a company that engages in such practices, and i enforce such opinion "with my wallet" by buying from their competition.

 

[AusWolf]

A little something to remember Evga cards by...