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All this discussion for 1 card in 1 game engine...
Geeeezzzz....
Geeeezzzz....
System Name | Main setup |
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Processor | i9 12900K |
Motherboard | Gigabyte z690 Gaming X |
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Memory | Kingston 32GB 5200@cl30 |
Video Card(s) | Asus Tuf RTS 4090 |
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Processor | Ryzen 9 5900X |
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Video Card(s) | MSI RTX 4080 X-trio. |
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VR HMD | Er no, pointless. |
Software | Windows 10 22H2 |
Benchmark Scores | Timespy - 24522 | Crystalmark - 7100/6900 Seq. & 84/266 QD1 | |
So Im not feeling the wow factor of the 4090, Im running a 3080-12gb & 5900x and @3440x1440, noRT, DLSS2-Auto and am getting on average 124 fps@350W. Which on my LG G-synce compatible monitor, the gameplay is flawless imho. May upgrade to a 4080-16gb down the road, but more than lickly my next upgrade will be to a RX 7800/7900 card as Im betting the power draw will similar to my current card, whith rasterisation perf that will be somewhere between the RTX3000 and RTX4000 series. Even though I have never used RT, because the visual candy isnt all that noticable when playing and isnt worth the perf hit. I imagine the RT perf of the new RDNA3 cards will match or beat that of RTX3000 series.Could be hitting a CPU bottleneck at 170+ fps in CP2077, that's why it uses less power probably, maybe.. seems logical.
System Name | Bro2 |
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Software | Windows 10 64 bit |
It wont stop being a gimmick. RT is driving the sales and now you have from NV that reached highest $1600 price for top card in the segment. I remember the 1080 Ti had cost $600. $1k up to the price one card within 5 years? yeah it is 5 years when 1080TI was released or am I making things up? Anyway, Huang can shove those cards up his to be fair with the RT promises and DLSS when the new DLSS3 does not work on older gen cards which still cost so damn much. How is the support for the DLLS 2 look now? Is there going to be support for it? Doubt that developers will spend time for implementing DLSS2 and DLSS3 for individual line of cards. Heck, 5000 series cards will have exclusive DLSS 4 probably.1600$ (let be honest it's more like 2000$ in real world) RTX name, 3rd gen RT cores and cannot reach 60fps at 1440p not even 4k.
Waste of silicon, I thought by next gen GPUs ray tracing will stop being a gimmick but it seems we are still far away.
I think you have to balme the tech media (which for the most are a bunch of philistines and fanboys) also as well, I remember one outlet praising ray tracing in Control while the damn mug had 2 polygons.It wont stop being a gimmick. RT is driving the sales and now you have from NV that reached highest $1600 price for top card in the segment. I remember the 1080 Ti had cost $600. $1k up to the price one card within 5 years? yeah it is 5 years when 1080TI was released or am I making things up? Anyway, Huang can shove those cards up his to be fair with the RT promises and DLSS when the new DLSS3 does not work on older gen cards which still cost so damn much. How is the support for the DLLS 2 look now? Is there going to be support for it? Doubt that developers will spend time for implementing DLSS2 and DLSS3 for individual line of cards. Heck, 5000 series cards will have exclusive DLSS 4 probably.
That is an insult and a spit straight in gamers faces.
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Video Card(s) | ASRock RX7900XT Phantom Gaming |
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Power Supply | EVGA Supernova G2 750W |
Mouse | Steelseries Aerox 5 |
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VR HMD | HD 420 - Green Edition ;) |
Software | W11 IoT Enterprise LTSC |
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Its 55c because the heatsink is nearly 4 slots lol. Soon the case will be just a giant heatsink, kinda like a laptop.
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System Name | AlderLake |
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Processor | Intel i7 12700K P-Cores @ 5Ghz |
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Software | Windows 11 |
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One of advantages of DLSS 3 interframe creation is that CPU is not used for creating interframes. So in this case CPU is rendering 85 fps on average.Could be hitting a CPU bottleneck at 170+ fps in CP2077, that's why it uses less power probably, maybe.. seems logical.
System Name | Skunkworks 3.0 |
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Processor | 5800x3d |
Motherboard | x570 unify |
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Memory | 32GB 3600 mhz |
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Storage | Sabarent rocket 4.0 2TB, MX 500 2TB |
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Case | Old arse cooler master 932 |
Power Supply | Corsair 1200w platinum |
Mouse | *squeak* |
Keyboard | Some old office thing |
Software | Manjaro |
Is this trolling or bait?It's 4 slots because the industry has to deal with ridiculous expectations from consumers and deliver biannually, which Nvidia miraculously does. Not to mention while innovating on multiple fronts (DLSS, NVENC). If you're unhappy, there's always a 2-slot 3XXX series card until you buy a proper case .
System Name | Gaming PC / I7 XEON |
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Processor | I7 4790K @stock / XEON W3680 @ stock |
Motherboard | Asus Z97 MAXIMUS VII FORMULA / GIGABYTE X58 UD7 |
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Video Card(s) | Gainward GLH 1080 / MSI Gaming X Radeon RX480 8 GB |
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Mouse | Steelseries Sesnsei / Steelseries Sensei raw |
Keyboard | Razer BlackWidow Chroma / Razer BlackWidow Chroma |
Software | Windows 1064bit PRO / Windows 1064bit PRO |
DLSS3 is not all roses and sunshine. You will get better fps but latency will not improve. Let's assume you will get 30fps without dlss3 (33.3ms latency) then no matter how much frames you will generate outside of game engine (60 or 3000fps) you will still have that (33.3ms) input/world update latency because game engine doesn't know about these frames. It's a mixed bag and IMO not something worth buying 4000 series for because you only get half the coin of the promised performance (only throughput but not latency).So the quality setting for dlss3 determent the power use. Nice.
You can have low fps with high power or high fps with low power.
Remind me of this:
What do you prefer- to be healthy and rich or poor and ill?
Processor | Intel core i9 13900ks sp117 direct die |
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Motherboard | Asus Maximus Apex Z790 |
Cooling | Custom loop 3*360 45mm thick+ 3 x mo-ra3 420 +Dual D5 pump and dual ddc pump |
Memory | 2x24gb Gskill 8800c38 |
Video Card(s) | Asus RTX 4090 Strix |
Storage | 2 tb crucial t700, raid 0 samsung 970 pro 2tb |
Display(s) | Sammsung G7 32” |
Case | Dynamic XL |
Audio Device(s) | Creative Omni 5.1 usb sound card |
Power Supply | Corsair AX1600i |
Mouse | Model O- |
Keyboard | Hyper X Alloy Origin Core |
I think DLSS3 will be amazing for in game cutscene as they would be able to crank up the details without tanking too much the frame rate. Maybe also on slow paced game like point and click games.DLSS3 is not all roses and sunshine. You will get better fps but latency will not improve. Let's assume you will get 30fps without dlss3 (33.3ms latency) then no matter how much frames you will generate outside of game engine (60 or 3000fps) you will still have that (33.3ms) input/world update latency because game engine doesn't know about these frames. It's a mixed bag and IMO not something worth buying 4000 series for because you only get half the coin of the promised performance (only throughput but not latency).
- Not use amount of electricityIt's 4 slots because the industry has to deal with ridiculous expectations from consumers and deliver biannually, which Nvidia miraculously does. Not to mention while innovating on multiple fronts (DLSS, NVENC). If you're unhappy, there's always a 2-slot 3XXX series card until you buy a proper case .
Could be hitting a CPU bottleneck at 170+ fps in CP2077, that's why it uses less power probably, maybe.. seems logical.
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System Name | GrandadsBadAss |
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Processor | I7 13700k w/ HEATKILLER IV PRO Copper Nickel |
Motherboard | MSI Z790 Tomahawk Wifi |
Cooling | BarrowCH Boxfish 200mm-HWLabs SR2 420/GTS 360-BP Dual D5 MOD TOP- 2x Koolance PMP 450S |
Memory | 2x16gb G.SKILL Trident Z5 Neo RGB 6400 |
Video Card(s) | Asrock 6800xt PG D w/ Byski A-AR6900XT-X |
Storage | WD SN850x 1TB NVME M.2/Samsung 980 Pro 1TB NVMe M.2 |
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Case | Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 Server Edition w/3 Noctua NF-A14 2000 IP67/4 be quiet! LIGHT WINGS LX 120mm |
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Power Supply | FSP Hydro Ti PRO 1000w |
Mouse | Logitech G502 |
Keyboard | Roccat Vulcan Aimo |
Software | Win 10/11pro |
If aibs stick to the reference pcb you can go itx hehe.Monster aib card with optimus waterblock. I think i will need a bigger case.
Processor | AMD Ryzen 3700x |
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Motherboard | asus ROG Strix B-350I Gaming |
Cooling | Deepcool LS520 SE |
Memory | crucial ballistix 32Gb DDR4 |
Video Card(s) | RTX 3070 FE |
Storage | WD sn550 1To/WD ssd sata 1To /WD black sn750 1To/Seagate 2To/WD book 4 To back-up |
Display(s) | LG GL850 |
Case | Dan A4 H2O |
Audio Device(s) | sennheiser HD58X |
Power Supply | Corsair SF600 |
Mouse | MX master 3 |
Keyboard | Master Key Mx |
Software | win 11 pro |
Processor | Intel i5-12600k |
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Motherboard | Asus H670 TUF |
Cooling | Arctic Freezer 34 |
Memory | 2x16GB DDR4 3600 G.Skill Ripjaws V |
Video Card(s) | EVGA GTX 1060 SC |
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Power Supply | Seasonic 620W M12 |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Proteus Core |
Keyboard | G.Skill KM780R |
Software | Arch Linux + Win10 |
Nvidia talks raw HP. That doesn't translate directly to FPS, the same way as more HP for a car doesn't directly translate into its top speed.If these numbers are true, the 4090 is 67% faster than a 3090ti, apples to apples.
Nvidia claimed 2X-4X
This is why we don't trust them.
heh, with cards like the 4090 its already reached a point where you need a case that supports at least 7-10 fans for proper air flow. Imo, anything less than that and you just end up with too much heat building up inside of the case.Its 55c because the heatsink is nearly 4 slots lol. Soon the case will be just a giant heatsink, kinda like a laptop.
Nvidia talks raw HP. That doesn't translate directly to FPS, the same way as more HP for a car doesn't directly translate into its top speed.
Processor | 11900K |
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Motherboard | ASRock Z590 OC Formula |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15 using 2x140mm 3000RPM industrial Noctuas |
Memory | G. Skill Trident Z 2x16GB 3600MHz |
Video Card(s) | eVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 |
Storage | 2TB Crucial P5 Plus |
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Power Supply | Seasonic Prime 850 TX |
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Keyboard | Glorious MMK2 65% Lynx MX switches |
Software | Win10 Pro |
Fired for what exactly? Having a slightly louder card for a much cooler card? Seems like a good tradeoff off to me. Most people play games when the card is heading up so gpu noise is drowned out.If that is the actual temp on the final cards, then the fan speed/noise balance is terrible and someone at NVIDIA will get fired after my review