Restoring the Balance: Intel Arc A750 & A770 Performance per Dollar Detailed, available Oct 12th

[btarunr]

It's the moment you've been waiting for! (And the moment our teams have been working towards!) The Intel Arc A750 and A770 GPUs will be for sale on October 12th starting at $289 and $329 respectively, with the Arc A770 Limited Edition available for $349. After years of price increases in the massive $200-400 GPU segment, Intel is bringing balance back to the GPU market. Pricing seems to have gone off the deep end and we're working to reel it back in with the Intel Arc A-series GPUs. As we've shown in earlier performance blogs, the Arc A750 and A770 trade blows with the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060—a popular mainstream GPU. Intel CEO Pat Gelsinger called out the extreme GPU prices in his Intel Innovation Day 1 keynote, showing that the last four years have seen a nonstop upward trend in prices of mainstream GPUs. By entering the GPU space as a third player, Intel is ready to turn these tides in gamers' favor and disrupt the market.

On average, a new GeForce RTX 3060 will set you back $418. (This number was calculated on Newegg.com, targeting in stock, sold by Newegg, new RTX 3060 cards as of Sept 22, 2022.) Picking up an Intel Arc A750 on October 12th for $289 gets you 53% more performance per dollar on average, or an 8 GB Arc A770 for $329 provides 42% more perf/dollar. Why is that? The Arc A700-series performance beats the 3060 in most modern titles using DirectX 12 or Vulkan APIs and our GPUs aren't far behind in most DX11 games—all for much less cash.



When collecting this massive data set shared in the video above, TAP and I first showed performance of games that run on DX11 and DX12, but eventually excluded DX11 game performance data points where the game also has a DX12 mode, like Tom Clancy's The Division 2, benchmarked in our video above. Check out the divide between the older and newer APIs at 5:54. The DirectX 12 version makes better use of the GPU and scores 92 frames per second at 1440p High, compared to the DX11 run at 78 FPS. If your favorite games have DirectX 12 or Vulkan, turn it on!



The performance and value of the A770 and A750 is great, but don't forget that Alchemist is based on a modern GPU architecture. It supports features like AI super sampling with XeSS, includes dedicated hardware ray tracing acceleration, was the first GPU to offer hardware AV1 encode acceleration, has some impressive overclocking capability, and just-plain-looks-cool.

Check the bottom of this article for an Excel table of our performance data. Don't want to take our word for it? The first round of cards for independent reviews are in the mail and we're looking forward to hearing their takes on Intel Arc performance and value.



If you thought the deal we were bringing to the table was too good to be true, don't miss out on the amazing software attached to this launch. The new Call of Duty: Modern Warfare II is included with qualifying Intel Arc 7 GPUs! Think that's sweet? Let's make it downright saccharine with even more games. Gotham Knights, Ghostbusters: Spirits Unleashed, and The Settlers come with an Intel Arc A750 or A770 and opt-in registration for the Intel Gaming Access program at game.intel.com. Gaming Access has fantastic giveaways, sweepstakes, and articles so do yourself a favor and sign up anyway.

You've been reading and following along with our journey in bringing Intel discrete graphics to the world, and I want to thank you for sticking with us. This isn't the end though. It's the true beginning of Intel Arc graphics, a result of years of hard work by our brilliant engineers and the trailhead for a longer journey in restoring balance to the graphics world.

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[Chaitanya]

Looking forward to reviews and sub $400 market really needs good competition right now.

 

[konga]

"Based on RTX 3060 average Newegg price of $418." There's the catch. They use their lowest available price (MSRP) for themselves and an average price for Nvidia, very dirty. Even AMD will use the lowest available price for Nvidia's cards when they do perf/$ marketing claims.

 

[ModEl4]

So they claim that ARC A750 is 5.78% faster than RTX 3060 at QHD and A770 8GB only 11.77% faster than RTX 3060?
So A770 8GB only 5.7% faster than A750?
With the below advertised specs the A770/A750 difference should have been a little bit higher than that.
Also 16GB $349 and 8GB $329?
Only $20 for 8GB GDDR6?
And if A770 is only 5.7% faster than A750 why the difference between them is $40? (+13.8%)

«On average, a new GeForce RTX 3060 will set you back $418. (This number was calculated on Newegg.com, targeting in stock, sold by Newegg, new RTX 3060 cards as of Sept 22, 2022.) Picking up an Intel Arc A750 on October 12th for $289 gets you 53% more performance per dollar on average, or an 8GB Arc A770 for $329 provides 42% more perf/dollar.»

 

[RadeonProVega]

Was going to buy one, but out of luck, i have no way to use a 8pin connector with my desktop/MB.

 

[Chane]

No OpenGL tests?

 

[Sp33d Junki3]

Was going to buy one, but out of luck, i have no way to use a 8pin connector with my desktop/MB.

What? Your PSU does not have PCIe 8pin?

 

[DrCR]

No OpenGL tests?

^this. And if Ubuntu or the like will run it.

I’m majorly cheering for Intel’s GPU endeavors. That said, if this first gen is actually worth buying by any metric, I’ll be pleasantly shocked.

 

[N3utro]

 

[ModEl4]

In some games like Metro Exodus/PUBG/LOL/Far Cry New Dawn the A770/A750 QHD performance difference is less than 1% or even regression!
They have to fix their drivers!
If one slice is deactivated completely and the clocks are 2.1/2.05GHz, we are talking about 17% theoretical higher pixel/texel/shading throughput for A770 vs A750.

 

[Deleted member 185088]

It is kinda depressing to rely on Intel's GPUs, AMD probably will follow nVidia's route and just lower RDNA2 prices rather than bringing cheap RDNA3.

 

[trsttte]

So they claim that ARC A750 is 5.78% faster than RTX 3060 at QHD and A770 8GB only 11.77% faster than RTX 3060?
So A770 8GB only 5.7% faster than A750?
With the below advertised specs the A770/A750 difference should have been a little bit higher than that.
Also 16GB $349 and 8GB $329?
Only $20 for 8GB GDDR6?
And if A770 is only 5.7% faster than A750 why the difference between them is $40? (+13.8%)

«On average, a new GeForce RTX 3060 will set you back $418. (This number was calculated on Newegg.com, targeting in stock, sold by Newegg, new RTX 3060 cards as of Sept 22, 2022.) Picking up an Intel Arc A750 on October 12th for $289 gets you 53% more performance per dollar on average, or an 8GB Arc A770 for $329 provides 42% more perf/dollar.»

The higher memory on the A770 LE is supposed to be an incentive for purchases. They'll also be offering Call of Duty MW2 (when that launches) which is another 60$ value. The 20$ between 8gb and 16gb is kinda ridiculous, also the 8gb price is base MSRP for AIBs, the 16gb price is for the Intel branded board (which basically will make AIB boards less attractive if they don't do 16gb boards).

The 40$ for 5.7% is price premium on performance as always happens (i7/i9; 3080/3090 at launch way back when; etc..)

Intel seems really keen on making a big splash on the market, hopefully they're here to stay.

 

[usiname]

But the big question is how limited is the 16gb limited edition.
Anyway, with $320 6650xt is much better choice, ~14% faster than 3060, stable drivers, support for all APIs and 30% better perfromance per watt.
Lets not forget to check the 3rd party review, because intel is not really sure how real are the results

 

[ModEl4]

The higher memory on the A770 LE is supposed to be an incentive for purchases. They'll also be offering Call of Duty MW2 (when that launches) which is another 60$ value. The 20$ between 8gb and 16gb is kinda ridiculous, also the 8gb price is base MSRP for AIBs, the 16gb price is for the Intel branded board (which basically will make AIB boards less attractive if they don't do 16gb boards).

The 40$ for 5.7% is price premium on performance as always happens (i7/i9; 3080/3090 at launch way back when; etc..)

Intel seems really keen on making a big splash on the market, hopefully they're here to stay.

Wccftech reports the following (too good to be true):

«The graphics cards will be bundled with a range of games & apps that alone amount to around $500 US in value:

• Call of Duty: Modern Warfare II (Full Download ARV: US$69.99)
• Ghostbusters: Spirits Unleashed (Full Download ARV: US$39.99)
• Gotham Knights (Full Download ARV: US$59.99)
• The Settlers (Full Download ARV: US$59.99)
• Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodhunt (In-Game Content ARV: US$20.00)»

 

[Blue4130]

"Based on RTX 3060 average Newegg price of $418." There's the catch. They use their lowest available price (MSRP) for themselves and an average price for Nvidia, very dirty. Even AMD will use the lowest available price for Nvidia's cards when they do perf/$ marketing claims.

Isn't the lowest price also the average price and also the highest price since there is only one price? (assuming that they are comparing their boards, not third party)

 

[Darmok N Jalad]

They talk like they are running a charity with their pricing. This is the same company that pushed out “high end” quad cores year after year at premium prices. It wasn’t until they were met with competition that they found a way to make something bigger and a quad core became a budget product.

If these outperformed the 4090 and had decent drivers, they would be priced above the 4090. No, they are not bargain priced because Intel is feeling generous, but because you very likely aren’t going to get an experience worth any more than what you’re paying. Even that is a big IF since we have no idea how good the drivers are.

It really doesn’t matter to me, though. I do like Intels support on Linux, but let’s not kid ourselves here, Pat.

 

[Bwaze]

On average, a new GeForce RTX 3060 will set you back $418. (This number was calculated on Newegg.com, targeting in stock, sold by Newegg, new RTX 3060 cards as of Sept 22, 2022.)

If you thought the deal we were bringing to the table was too good to be true...

That's... A complete fabrication. RTX 3060 is a card that was launched with MSRP of $329, and can be now finally found below that. Calculating "an average" by including all the models that still have the high price from crypro craze (because there really isn't a stock) is bullshit, and Intel knows it.

Also, what's with all the cards with practically same performance? We've seen AIB models of the same card with more different performances than these models? And I bet that's best case scenario, performance in best behaving DX12 games, we're not even considering all the games Intel cards don't know how to properly accelerate...

Also, I'd read carefully what games are they actually including with what - it's quite possible some of the larger packages are reserved for special kits with high end CPUs and high end motherboard, don't expect $500 worth of games with a $300 graphics card. And these offers are also usually regionally limited, but bragging like this is often global, and we resent that.

 

[RadeonProVega]

What? Your PSU does not have PCIe 8pin?

I'm using a Dell Precision Workstation 5810, PSU is 685watts.
I did come across a Dell workstation that had a 8pin and 6pin, i think it was a Dell precision 7810 or 7820, not sure. I plan to buy a new desktop soon, one that comes with a 8pin and 6pin connector, have to talk with that person again on Ebay or find one again when I'm ready.

 

[Ando]

That's... A complete fabrication. RTX 3060 is a card that was launched with MSRP of $329, and can be now finally found below that. Calculating "an average" by including all the models that still have the high price from crypro craze (because there really isn't a stock) is bullshit, and Intel knows it.

Also, what's with all the cards with practically same performance? We've seen AIB models of the same card with more different performances than these models? And I bet that's best case scenario, performance in best behaving DX12 games, we're not even considering all the games Intel cards don't know how to properly accelerate...

Also, I'd read carefully what games are they actually including with what - it's quite possible some of the larger packages are reserved for special kits with high end CPUs and high end motherboard, don't expect $500 worth of games with a $300 graphics card. And these offers are also usually regionally limited, but bragging like this us often global, and we resent that.

Where are you finding new 3060's below MSRP? Cheapest I get on newegg is $370 new, as low as $325 for an open box (doesn't count, not new). Amazon has a questionable OEM refurbished card for $330, otherwise the first seemingly new model is $350.
You must be thinking of the RX 6600, which has in fact been well under $300 for a while now. Though if you look at Intel's slides you'd think Nvidia has a monopoly. Their real competitor is AMD in my opinion.

 

[ZoneDymo]

Where are you finding new 3060's below MSRP? Cheapest I get on newegg is $370 new, as low as $325 for an open box (doesn't count, not new). Amazon has a questionable OEM refurbished card for $330, otherwise the first seemingly new model is $350.
You must be thinking of the RX 6600, which has in fact been well under $300 for a while now. Though if you look at Intel's slides you'd think Nvidia has a monopoly. Their real competitor is AMD in my opinion.

Yeah and I think they are aware of how that makes them look a bit less favourable soooo they ignore them

 

[Bwaze]

Where are you finding new 3060's below MSRP? Cheapest I get on newegg is $370 new, as low as $325 for an open box (doesn't count, not new). Amazon has a questionable OEM refurbished card for $330, otherwise the first seemingly new model is $350.
You must be thinking of the RX 6600, which has in fact been well under $300 for a while now. Though if you look at Intel's slides you'd think Nvidia has a monopoly. Their real competitor is AMD in my opinion.

Sorry, I haven't checked Newegg prices, I assumed they are now below MSRP, since new RTX 3060 are now sold in Germany for 380 EUR, which is actually below MSRP + VAT. Weren't there articles on how prices of Nvidia cards have been plummeting below MSRP here and on WCCFTech?

 

[usiname]

Sorry, I haven't checked Newegg prices, I assumed they are now below MSRP, since new RTX 3060 are now sold in Germany for 380 EUR, which is actually below MSRP + VAT. Weren't there articles on how prices of Nvidia cards have been plummeting below MSRP here and on WCCFTech?

Probably with the prices of RTX 4000 and the "new update" of the low end (again 3060 after 2 years), the price of 3060 and the rest nvidia cards is rising again

 

[Lionheart]

I'm just sitting thinking to myself "Has Intel become the new budget king"

 

[Bwaze]

Budget? We're takling about matching the 2 year old card prices with a product that matches these cards only in best case scenarios, and we have to disregard the games that don't play nice.

Increasing prices on RTX 3060 makes sense, the same happened back with Pascal cards (GTX 10X0) when Turing (RTX 20X0) came out with zero price / performance increase.

This time it's even worse, Nvidia actually now claims that Ampere cards are still the current generation, and the top end Ada cards (RTX 4080, 4090) are for now just positioned above, with as much price increase as we have performance increase.

 

[Luminescent]

This can be a very promising GPU for future games.
Arc 770 has 21,700 million transistors, rtx 3060 has 12,000 million.
If adequate driver support is provided Intel can easily beat rtx 3060 in newer unreleased games.
What interest me the most is how well it works in content creation, i can't wait for pugetsystems to test this card in Adobe premiere pro.