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Audio Device(s) | Asgard 2, Modi 3, HD58X |
Power Supply | Corsair RM850x Gold |
Can someone with hands on experience please tell me how much improvement is there in picture quality by going from IPS to OLED panel?
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Based on my laptop (Acer Swift 3 with a 14" 2880x1800 OLED display from Samsung), it's much better when it comes to blacks and HDR content looks more vivid.Can someone with hands on experience please tell me how much improvement is there in picture quality by going from IPS to OLED panel?
There is no need to stop with the 27" monitors... that is my preferred size as I typically like the 3 monitor setup.
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Who said the panels would be 4K? I was hoping for 27" 1440p displays not 4K. 32" 4K while nice won't be as practical as a 3080 is really a 1440p card and anything much better than that is too expensive to be practical.I disagree completely. What’s awful are 27” panels at 4K with microscopic icons and text. Then you get to deal with windows scaling and game interfaces looking terrible if you try to scale certain things.
27”, and anything below, at 4K is a bad experience imo. Larger panels up to 30-34” are fantastic for gaming and having enough screen real estate for photo/modeling work with a secondary monitor above or to the side.
I also don’t understand how consumers buying $800-$1400+ monitors end up not having room to accommodate a proper sized desk to fit such setups.
The 24”-27” range in the monitor market is so saturated already. Some competition in the larger monitor area would be wonderful because the prices in comparison are laughably bad.
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May I suggest investing in a pair of spectacles?I disagree completely. What’s awful are 27” panels at 4K with microscopic icons and text. Then you get to deal with windows scaling and game interfaces looking terrible if you try to scale certain things.
27”, and anything below, at 4K is a bad experience imo. Larger panels up to 30-34” are fantastic for gaming and having enough screen real estate for photo/modeling work with a secondary monitor above or to the side.
I also don’t understand how consumers buying $800-$1400+ monitors end up not having room to accommodate a proper sized desk to fit such setups.
The 24”-27” range in the monitor market is so saturated already. Some competition in the larger monitor area would be wonderful because the prices in comparison are laughably bad.
Indeed, we have no idea about what kind of resolution the panel will have in this case. We're just going to have to wait and see.Who said the panels would be 4K? I was hoping for 27" 1440p displays not 4K. 32" 4K while nice won't be as practical as a 3080 is really a 1440p card and anything much better than that is too expensive to be practical.
May I suggest investing in a pair of spectacles?
Been using 27" 4K displays for around six years now and I have had none of the issues you mention.
I've not spent over $570 for either monitor.
Indeed, we have no idea about what kind of resolution the panel will have in this case. We're just going to have to wait and see.
May I suggest investing in a pair of spectacles?
Been using 27" 4K displays for around six years now and I have had none of the issues you mention.
I've not spent over $570 for either monitor.
Indeed, we have no idea about what kind of resolution the panel will have in this case. We're just going to have to wait and see.
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OLED is NOT practical for computer use for daily hours of use due to static/fixed imagery, etc. regardless of the promises from crooked OEMs guarantees e.g. think task bar icons, etc. burn-in.Can someone with hands on experience please tell me how much improvement is there in picture quality by going from IPS to OLED panel?
Processor | 7800X3D -25 all core |
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Motherboard | B650 Steel Legend |
Cooling | Frost Commander 140 |
Video Card(s) | Merc 310 7900 XT @3100 core -.75v |
Display(s) | Agon 27" QD-OLED Glossy 240hz 1440p |
Case | NZXT H710 (Red/Black) |
Audio Device(s) | Asgard 2, Modi 3, HD58X |
Power Supply | Corsair RM850x Gold |
Based on my laptop (Acer Swift 3 with a 14" 2880x1800 OLED display from Samsung), it's much better when it comes to blacks and HDR content looks more vivid.
I can't say it was the game changer I was expecting, but it's vastly superior to my old notebook display (old Thinkpad X250).
The downside is that it's a glossy display, so it's quite reflective, but I hope PC monitors won't be glossy.
I'd happy go OLED if the price is comparable to other types of screen technology, but it often isn't when we talk larger size displays.
OLED is NOT practical for computer use for daily hours of use due to static/fixed imagery, etc. regardless of the promises from crooked OEMs guarantees e.g. think task bar icons, etc. burn-in.
not all OLED is created equally, just fyi. my Samsung Galaxy phone is OLED, and while it is great, it doesn't compare to say a LG C1 OLED, which I have seen in person at a Costco in the past.
also, just using a laptop for work doesn't count either really, you really need a proper system or even just a PS5 or Xbox Series X and a proper 4K OLED tv in actual games to really appreciate it.
play a dark game like Limbo or Inside on your laptop and compare it side by side your monitor. I mean the immersion is enhanced a hundred fold.
also, those laptops don't have the best motion clarity, OLED is known for its clarity. you should be able to tell a different with the naked eye with a high end LG OLED panel and a laptop panel, the laptop panel is still superior to other panel types imo, same as my phone is superior to other phones that don't have OLED, but LG takes it to another level when it comes to TV's, and Samsung Display with the new Alienware OLED monitor, its just a different experience.
Dell offers a 3 year return warranty for any burn in on their new OLED gaming panels, so I mean... who cares what you think when the warranty says there is no risk?
I understand.There are plenty of CAD programs I use and have used that are not friendly to scale at high resolutions on such small monitors. There’s simply a comfortable PPI value that, without touching scaling for windows or program settings, allows for a better UI experience, and 27” 4K is not that experience.
It has far less to do with not being able to see, and I do have glasses, it’s just not all programs and games play nicely when messing with scaling. Making workflow unnecessarily frustrating or slow.
Processor | 7800X3D -25 all core |
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Motherboard | B650 Steel Legend |
Cooling | Frost Commander 140 |
Video Card(s) | Merc 310 7900 XT @3100 core -.75v |
Display(s) | Agon 27" QD-OLED Glossy 240hz 1440p |
Case | NZXT H710 (Red/Black) |
Audio Device(s) | Asgard 2, Modi 3, HD58X |
Power Supply | Corsair RM850x Gold |
Clearly, you haven't dealt with Dell's customer service (RMAs, etc.) recently, but... uhm... keep believing the gibberish.
Just... STOP! You have clearly exposed your non-experience with Dell's support. That's not how ~ smooth ~ Dell work in REAL LIFE pass the noise.They wouldn't risk the backlash from people like GamersNexus who protect our community. I bet if there is burn-in they will honor it, they have new ways of stopping the burn in, mainly the ALienware monitor is very different than the LG tv's tech wise.
Processor | 7800X3D -25 all core |
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Motherboard | B650 Steel Legend |
Cooling | Frost Commander 140 |
Video Card(s) | Merc 310 7900 XT @3100 core -.75v |
Display(s) | Agon 27" QD-OLED Glossy 240hz 1440p |
Case | NZXT H710 (Red/Black) |
Audio Device(s) | Asgard 2, Modi 3, HD58X |
Power Supply | Corsair RM850x Gold |
Just... STOP! You have clearly exposed your non-experience with Dell's support. That's not how ~ smooth ~ Dell work in REAL LIFE pass the noise.
No you stop, you clearly don't understand the new tech that is in the Alienware monitor, and that is why Dell is so confident in offering that 3 year burn in warranty. I know monitor tech very well and was overclocking imported South Korean monitors when you were still in diapers.
I understand.
But the scaling issue is something that we'll have to deal with at some point.
iOS, Android and MacOS have had functional scaling for years... it's not rocket science.
So, demand it from software developers. I know it's easier said than done, but we can't just keep on using shitty low PPI screens forever.
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That's the dream. I'm using the 42 inch right now, and it is useable and beautiful, a great product, but I still feel a little little bit too large.Would love a 32" 4k 240Hz OLED display.
There’s nothing low about 140 PPI from 30-36” away on a 32” 4K monitor. Arguably it’s much more comfortable than 164 PPI on a 27” 4K.
4k 32” is also a significant upgrade from 1440p 27”.
Ultimately it’s subjective, but 4K is more comfortable from a desktop viewing distance on 32” monitor taking into account gaming and any kind of software imo.
Hammering individual developers to cater to scaling for specific use cases will never happen.
Burn-in has come a long way. It's much lees an issue that ever berore.OLED is NOT practical for computer use for daily hours of use due to static/fixed imagery, etc. regardless of the promises from crooked OEMs guarantees e.g. think task bar icons, etc. burn-in.
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140 PPI at 30-36" distance is not enough to make the pixels fully indistinguishable.There’s nothing low about 140 PPI from 30-36” away
One way or another the developers are moving in that direction, it's not just a specific use case. Most people prefer to not have pixelated elements on their screens.Hammering individual developers to cater to scaling for specific use cases will never happen.
140 PPI at 30-36" distance is not enough to make the pixels fully indistinguishable.
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One way or another the developers are moving in that direction, it's not just a specific use case. Most people prefer to not have pixelated elements on their screens.
Anyway, many Windows apps already scale quite nicely, it's just a matter of time before others catch up.