GIGABYTE Outs Trio of Socket AM5 Server Products Based on B650E

Batou1986 · Oct 3, 2022

I'm not buildzoid so I'm not an expert but I count 8 VRM phases for this 24/7 operation board compared to the 18+ phases on consumer boards.
Between the massively oversized VRM designs the quad NVME and all the other gimicks tacked on to the X670 and B650 "budget lol" boards the 7000 series launch is the worst cash grab I have seen since Rocket Lake and the 11700K.

Dirt Chip · Oct 3, 2022

Mats said:
Well spotted, I missed that one.

Gigabyte: Shut up and take my money, I needs me Firewires. (Still need a FW expansion card lol) /No I don't need it because sarcasm.

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no eSATA, no buy.

dyonoctis said:
It's always been there : socket 1700 ddr4/ddr5
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Those are entry-level, very limitedIO, very basic xxxM variants.
As with cases (see fractal torrent example), one can ask for a high end without any blin-blig rubbish.
You can even make them with green PCB, as it use to the good old simple days.

demirael · Oct 3, 2022

dyonoctis said:
It's always been there : socket 1700 ddr4/ddr5
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That's AM5. "B650" is the giveaway, Intel has B660.

dyonoctis · Oct 4, 2022

demirael said:
That's AM5. "B650" is the giveaway, Intel has B660.

Yhea, I added the AM5 board afterwards, but forgot to change the text

Lianna · Oct 4, 2022

jesdals said:
Both motherboards support ECC Un-buffered DIMM 1Rx8/2Rx8 memory modules and non-ECC Un-buffered DIMM 1Rx8/2Rx8/1Rx16 memory modules

The problem is that:
- they did not care about writing about it in the release;
- there is ambiguous/unresolved "*" after that information in the specs, and with history of ECC support on AM4 it may mean that ECC is possible with some CPU SKUs only, or that ECC DIMMS are supported, but ECC is not working;
- I don't see user manual for these boards with QVL yet.

jesdals · Oct 4, 2022

I think L1tech is the guy for these boards

Patriot · Oct 5, 2022

ExcuseMeWtf said:
So now for basic motherboards we have to shell out extra for stuff marketed as enterprise/workstation-grade instead of marketing just calling spade a spade - entry level customer stuff?

Greed knows no bounds...

Ignorance either.
No prices listed, though they will doubtless be on par with the RGB-vomit boards. 250-500, any more and they don't make sense in the lineup.
But dual 10gbit on-board and ipmi does not a cheap board make.
The Asrock X470/b550/X570 boards with IPMI were all priced 400-500, these if priced similar could be a deal for basic servers. They key difference being not having quirky asrock rom support.
These are not entry level stuff, if you don't need server features, look elsewhere.

SL2 · Oct 5, 2022

ExcuseMeWtf said:
So now for basic motherboards we have to shell out extra for stuff marketed as enterprise/workstation-grade instead of marketing just calling spade a spade - entry level customer stuff?

Greed knows no bounds...

This post makes no sense.

Products like this has been around forever. Consumers are better off buying real consumer boards.

Dirt Chip said:
Please bring back this basic design for consumers!

They never went away lol.

Here you have a couple of hundred models without glass and light, starting at €25.

Gehäuse PC-Gehäuse mit Gehäusetyp: Midi-Tower, Formfaktor Mainboard: ATX, Sichtfenster: ohne, Beleuchtung: ohne Beleuchtung Preisvergleich Geizhals EU

Preisvergleich und Bewertungen für Gehäuse PC-Gehäuse mit Gehäusetyp: Midi-Tower, Formfaktor Mainboard: ATX, Sichtfenster: ohne, Beleuchtung: ohne Beleuchtung

geizhals.eu

ExcuseMeWtf · Oct 5, 2022

Mats said:
This post makes no sense.

Products like this has been around forever. Consumers are better off buying real consumer boards.

It doesn't have to make sense to you.

It does to companies making those cheap boards to mark them up.

Patriot · Oct 6, 2022

ExcuseMeWtf said:
It doesn't have to make sense to you.

It's factually wrong and expresses ignorance about the product and its market placement.

Dirt Chip said:
50$ for all the junk, another 150$ for the "loss" of "primum" look.

The only junk one is the realtek DASH management105w tdp maxd tower one.

W332-Z00 (rev. 100) | Tower Server / Workstation - GIGABYTE Global

Single AMD Ryzen™ 7000 Series ProcessorsDual Channel DDR5 ECC / Non-ECC UDIMM, 4 DIMMsRealtek® DASH Remote ManagementRealtek® 2.5Gb/s LAN and 1Gb/s DASH LAN...

www.gigabyte.com

The others are proper boards with IPMI and optional 10gbit nics.
Given the port config they are aimed at workation/nas/smb server roles.

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