New DRM for Blu-Ray Fails; Backfires

zekrahminator · Oct 7, 2007

In another move against pirates worldwide, Sony unveiled and attempted to adopt "BD+", a type of virtual-machine encryption that allows a Blu-ray disk to determine if the player is hacked. Unfortunately, the earliest adoptions of BD+ show abysmal results. Fantastic 4: Rise of the Silver Surfer and The Day After Tomorrow are the first two movies to feature BD+ encryption, and neither of them will play on Samsung's BDP-1200 and LG's BH100. While both companies promise to release firmware upgrades within the coming weeks, there is a bigger problem: disks with BD+ loaded on them take up to two minutes longer to load than their encryption-free brethren. And even when the disk does play, there's a good chance that it will either crash or stutter during playback.

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Athlon2K15 · Oct 7, 2007

is it me or is sony just failing horribly lately?

ex_reven · Oct 7, 2007

AthlonX2 said:
is it me or is sony just failing horribly lately?

What do you mean lately

?

XooM · Oct 7, 2007

obviously, stupid-as-hell copy protection that really only hurts consumers is an EXCELLENT path to pursue. Keep on shafting the consumer, sony! We're all behind you...

Nemesis881 · Oct 7, 2007

DRM/weird formats always bite the company in the ass...I don't even see why they bother..

ex_reven · Oct 7, 2007

XooM said:
obviously, stupid-as-hell copy protection that really only hurts consumers is an EXCELLENT path to pursue. Keep on shafting the consumer, sony! We're all behind you...

I suppose it has to be implemented sometime though.
If there was no attempt at copy protection, piracy would probably grow more and more out of hand as other technology improves around it (cracking/ripping/burning facilities etc).

Imagine if copying a movie was as simple as copy and pasting it from your drive onto another disk?

xylomn · Oct 7, 2007

Sony have been bloody stupid with their tactics to copy protection atm.

Personally I have no problem with content creators wanting to protect their property... as I software developer myself it pisses me off that people don't care about the effort that goes into creating stuff and expect that they deserve to get it free (unless we want to give it away free

).

However companies really need to put in some serious research into creating copy protection that just works without adversely effecting the user, and yes its not something they will be able to do 'on the cheap' but it needs to done sometime.

panchoman · Oct 7, 2007

once again companies screw the paying customers and help the pirates. good job sony :toast:

jocksteeluk · Oct 7, 2007

The best copy writing protection sony could ever make is simply not to release Blu-ray writing devices to the general public but they wont do this because they want the profits.

lemonadesoda · Oct 7, 2007

Time for more executives at SONY to fall on their swords

Helvetica · Oct 7, 2007

All they have to do for DRM is to require all players be connected to the internet. Like steam.

Wile E · Oct 7, 2007

jocksteeluk said:
The best copy writing protection sony could ever make is simply not to release Blu-ray writing devices to the general public but they wont do this because they want the profits.

But then all we'll have to do is use a BD reader to rip it to HD, then reauthor movie-only to HD DVD. lol

effmaster · Oct 7, 2007

Wile E said:
But then all we'll have to do is use a BD reader to rip it to HD, then reauthor movie-only to HD DVD. lol

That would actually be nice lol.

Though Why is it that Sony can't seem to understand that their not ever gonna stop the pirates? They just gotta learn that consumers don't want to pay higher and higher prices just so that a minority of people who pirate movies can be sidetracked (though not even fully stopped).

WarEagleAU · Oct 7, 2007

I wasnt aware that you could download a BD movie and burn it and it would play. I thought sony and other bd players made it possible to not pirate movies..

effmaster · Oct 10, 2007

WarEagleAU said:
I wasnt aware that you could download a BD movie and burn it and it would play. I thought sony and other bd players made it possible to not pirate movies..

It was only temporary I think it uses some kind of security setting called AACS (correct me if im wrong people) and this is also used on HD-DVD so neither Blu-Ray nor HD-DVD are immune anymore to pirating anyways this AACS security has been broken by hackers already so their taking advantage of this unfortunately :shadedshu:

shadedshu Now the movie companies will see even less reasons to drop the prices on HD movies being released I sure hope that whenever a HD format is decided and it finally ousts DVD that the prices still arent $30 or more typically for a single movie

WarEagleAU · Oct 10, 2007

ahh, ok ok I see now, thanks effmaster.

I dont like the high prices, but Id be lying if I said I wouldnt download a BD movie and burn it had I had the resources. Thanks for the help

DaMulta · Oct 10, 2007

See this is why you don't trust sony. I would go with HD-DVD any day of the week, and save some cash doing it.

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