Led Zeppelin: 'I Wish EBay Would Drop Dead and Die.'

[BOSE]

Sounds to me like Led Zepplin wants these people there, they just don't want certain people to be making 300$ on a $40 ticket. Why? I think it's because Led Zepplin wants the money, and so does their publisher. Greed.

Thats a dumb reason, honestly.

First;If Led Zepplin and the Publisher wanted the money, then they would sell them for $300 each in the first place.

Second; what ebay sells, is a very tiny % of the total sales, it is so small, they wouldn't even notice the profit difference.

Third; Almost 1/3 the tickets get given away through many different channels; friends of a friend, promotions on radio, raffles, contests, etc. Thus decreasing your so called profits by 1/3.

Fourth; A large amount of the ticket profit is used towards renting the stage and paying the people to set it up, then clean up the mess you made while you were rolling on acid.

Fifth; Led Zepplin, and every one else on this planet, makes majority of its money from record sales, not ticket sales. Concert helps increase album sales and mp3 sales on iTunes.

 

[Ravenas]

Thats a dumb reason, honestly.

First;If Led Zepplin and the Publisher wanted the money, then they would sell them for $300 each in the first place.

Second; what ebay sells, is a very tiny % of the total sales, it is so small, they wouldn't even notice the profit difference.

Third; Led Zepplin, and every one else on this planet, makes majority of its money from record sales, not ticket sales. Concert helps increase album sales and mp3 sales on iTunes.

Imho, you have this backwards my friend. CDs are used to draw people to the concerts, concerts are how bands make their money (that's why bands are always rigorously touring). CDs cost 14.99 while tickets cost anywhere from 30-90 dollars a pop(concerts are where the money is at). Led Zepplin wouldn't be doing this reunion tour if they didn't want money, lol you think they are doing this for free? Sure they enjoy it, but they are rich dudes for a reason.

 

[BOSE]

Imho, you have this backwards my friend. CDs are used to draw people to the concerts, concerts are how bands make their money (that's why bands are always rigorously touring). CDs cost 14.99 while tickets cost anywhere from 30-90 dollars a pop(concerts are where the money is at). Led Zepplin wouldn't be doing this reunion tour if they didn't want money, lol you think they are doing this for free? Sure they enjoy it, but they are rich dudes for a reason.

No, Albums make you money, concerts is what helps you sell more albums. You sell 10,000 times more albums then you do concert tickets.

 

[cdawall]

No, Albums make you money, concerts is what helps you sell more albums.

no kidding tickets may cost more but you sell a hell of a lot more $15 cds than $30-90 tickets

 

[Ravenas]

No, Albums make you money, concerts is what helps you sell more albums.

I wouldn't goto a concert without listening to the album first...Why would anyone goto a concert without hearing their material first. I mean do you just randomly pick bands to goto their concert?

Radio play-> cd sales-> concert sales

 

[Ravenas]

no kidding tickets may cost more but you sell a hell of a lot more $15 cds than $30-90 tickets

Not when you pack 30,000 to 130,000 people into one concert in 50 places around the world.

 

[cdawall]

Not when you pack 30,000 to 130,000 people into one concert in 50 places around the world.

it is when you consider that

The band have sold more than 300 million albums worldwide

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Led_Zeppelin

 

[Ravenas]

it is when you consider that




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Led_Zeppelin

Meaning they have probably had close to 600,000mill+(at most) ticket sales.

Same reason Rolling Stones won't end their reuinion tour...they keep making sold out concerts (money), same thing goes for that canadian girl, whats her name? Cileen dion (LOL)?

 

[BOSE]

Meaning they have probably had close to 600,000mill+(at most) ticket sales.

Dude, where do you get this numbers??

1/3 of the tickets get given away one way or another. And who do you think pays for all the equipment set up and rental of the concert stage??


And people go to concerts for the experience. You cant take the music home like you do on a cd, but you do keep the experience in you for ever.

 

[Ravenas]

Dude, where do you get this numbers??

1/3 of the tickets get given away one way or another. And who do you think pays for all the equipment set up and rental of the concert stage??

And people go to concerts for the experience. You cant take the music home like you do on a cd, but you do keep the experience in you for ever.

We do, through ticket sells.

I go for the experience sure, but I'm not going to a random concert without listening to their music first. After that, I will go online and buy the live verison of the concert in mp3 format and put it on my iPod (that way I do get to take the music home).

 

[newtekie1]

I like the idea behind this. They are basically trying to protect customers from getting ripped off on ebay and prevent people from having to pay outragious markups for tickets off ebay. But I don't like how it was handled, there are better ways.

Meh, it's Led Zepplin, they're stuck up their own asses.

Would like a word with you.

 

[Ravenas]

Would like a word with you.

I'm sure they are stuck up their own asses, they are the greatest band of all time imo, and have gotten plenty of money and women because of them being the best band. Therefore, they prolly are a cocky bunch, and stuck up their own asses.

 

[Batou1986]

It's simple supply and demand. Led Zepplin is a HUGE band... I mean do you really expect people to get their tickets for 40$ to see Led Zepplin, or are just speaking in general terms? I would personally pay 300$ to see Led Zepplin, but not in London.

Secondly I fully agree with eBay tickets, because the only time I'm going to use ebay to buy tickets is when the concert is sold out venue wise. At that point, I will go to ebay and look for tickets!

Anyone who says ebay should drop dead and die is plain stupid imho.

1 i was figuratively speaking

2 the reason the concert is sold out is because there are so many ppl who dont even want to go to the show they are just greedy so they buy like 15 tickets at a time just to make a profit off them on ebay now if thats not an example of greed i dont know what is.

im not saying that this IS the reason concerts get sold out so fast but im willing to bet 25 to 40 % of tickets used at the shows have been resold for atleast 2x the price that they where supposed to cost

 

[Kreij]

I think that this guy just has some kind of vendetta going with eBay (He probably got ripped off at an auction or something )

Ticket brokers buy large blocks of tickets and sell them the same way, and they have no problem with this? The only difference is that individuals are doing it versus broker companies.

Either way, if I am going to spend $300 dollars it will be for a water cooling setup that I can enjoy for months or years instead of three hours in a venue crammed with people.

But that's just me

 

[newtekie1]

What I don't understand is why they don't just do something like limitting how many tickets you can purchase per credit card? That would certainly be a better solution. So you don't have these people buying 100+ tickets off ticketmaster only to resell them on ebay for double the price.

Ticket brokers buy large blocks of tickets and sell them the same way, and they have no problem with this? The only difference is that individuals are doing it versus broker companies.

The other difference is that the brokers buy the large blocks at discount prices and sell them at face value. So a $35 ticket costs $35 from a broker. The individuals selling the tickets on ebay purchase large blocks of tickets at face value and sell them at higher prices. Usually at 50-100% markups.

 

[BOSE]

And there are times, when you have a company would buy 100 tickets on a companies credit card for its employees.

Thus when you buy one of the 100 tickets on ebay, because few employees don't have the time to go, or just simply have no interest, thus they are purchased with a difference credit card. Thus those employees sell them on ebay or give them to friends.

 

[rhythmeister]

No, Albums make you money, concerts is what helps you sell more albums. You sell 10,000 times more albums then you do concert tickets.

No, albums make the record Co.s money, NOT the bands

 

[Nemesis881]

OMG!!! I wanna go!! November 26th is my b-day

(I just won't be buying tickets off of Ebay though lol)

 

[WarEagleAU]

Well after 5 posts, this was all just smoke and mirrors crap discussion <rofl>

on the stern side here, they dont make the tickets, the ticket box does. So in essence, the manager is being a ****tard here. On the other hand, I see the point in protecting the consumer...but honestly, it shouldnt matter how the person going to the concert got the tickets...let them enjoy the rock and roll baby.

 

[bassmasta]

actually, concerts don't make that much money from tickets, as I remember. most of it is paying for the rent on the stadium/ whatever. the real cash comes from merchandise.

 

[v-zero]

Led Zeppelin: 'I Wish eBay Would Drop Dead and Die.'

That's a little redundant, not to mention tautologist. You want to stop trying to be a martyr and get to work on your English mate.... (Stupid musicians and managers etc).