AMD Ryzen 7000 Series Processors Get their First Round of Price Cuts, 7950X at $574

[defaultluser]

still needs to be lower, but I guess if you take into account the free memory at Micro center, it suddenly reasonable!

 

[ARF]

There are some relatively cheap AM5 boards, too:

AM5 AMD Motherboards | Newegg.com

 

[Shou Miko]

It's still to high for the Ryzen 5 and 7

AMD Ryzen 5 7600X should be down to 240ish
AMD Ryzen 7 7700X should be around 300-320ish
AMD Ryzen 9 7900X should be around 450ish
AMD Ryzen 9 7950X should be around 550ish

With those prices it would be worth concider it, but if we stay strong and not buy the 7000 series AMD will lower the prices not just halt the production and I know costs has gone with up DDR5 but who needs PCI-E Gen5 other than NVME ssd's that haven't been released yet when we talk customer.

 

[john_]

John there is no conspiracy

Why is a different opinion "a conspiracy" theory?
Let's stop it here.

 

[murr]

I plan on upgrading to the new platform, just waiting for their GPU's.

 

[watzupken]

More than what in that article is said, I also have a theory that, this time motherboard manufacturers are not willing to support a motherboard for 3-4 years for free. So I believe that AM5 motherboards integrate also a small TAX for that extra long time BIOS support. A motherboard manufacturer selling an LGA 1700 motherboard, know that will not have to add new architecture support for that LGA 1700 motherboard after 2023. On the other hand, the same manufacturer knows that the AM5 motherboard sold today, will need to get BIOS updates for at least until 2025. That much have a cost.

I won’t speculate about the cost of making the boards, but I agree on this point that motherboard makers have factored the backward compatibility of the boards in the price. Zen 3 sold very well for AMD but this is at the expense of motherboard makers since AMD allowed earlier boards to be compatible for a few generations of CPU. Intel on the other hand generally only supports 2 generations of CPU before forcing people to buy a new one for whatever reasons they come up with. But at some point, motherboard prices will have to come down if demand is poor. Intel may pick up the slack, but I believe the demand for PCs may be one of the lowest. So with poor demand all around, prices will need to adjust to stimulate demand.

 

[rv8000]

7600X and 7700X are still to expensive for what they’re offering in terms of all around performance.

I’m honestly surprised it took this long to see a price drop.

 

[CyberCT]

Now let's hope ATI's new cards do the same to NVIDIA's 4080s .. which apparently not selling well in brick and morter stores at their rediculous prices. They're in stock at many places, while the 4090 is not.

 

[AsRock]

With such ridiculous motherboard prices, they ain't gonna sell any better...

It's not just that, the 650 boards are pretty much all out of the question for me as i need those SATA ports and at best i believe they have a max of 4. So if you need those you have to for the most part spend over $300+ on just a motherboard.

There are some relatively cheap AM5 boards, too:

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AM5 AMD Motherboards | Newegg.com

So a extra $140 just to get more SATA ports, in my eye's it's the mobo makers who failed and not as much as AMD.

 

[ARF]

So a extra $140 just to get more SATA ports, in my eye's it's the mobo makers who failed and not as much as AMD.

It's AMD's fault. No one has ever asked them to launch premium PCIe 5.0 support in all tiers, including the entry and low-end.
Of course, that the prices are skyrocketing. What should cost $79 costs $159.

 

[LifeOnMars]

I'm purely a gamer, going by my current Steam backlog I don't have to update any hardware for the rest of my lifetime I'll probably get around to playing Cyberpunk 2077 in 2077. (Might be bug free by then)

 

[Daven]

It's still to high for the Ryzen 5 and 7

AMD Ryzen 5 7600X should be down to 240ish
AMD Ryzen 7 7700X should be around 300-320ish
AMD Ryzen 9 7900X should be around 450ish
AMD Ryzen 9 7950X should be around 550ish

With those prices it would be worth concider it, but if we stay strong and not buy the 7000 series AMD will lower the prices not just halt the production and I know costs has gone with up DDR5 but who needs PCI-E Gen5 other than NVME ssd's that haven't been released yet when we talk customer.

These are the prices on Newegg right now. Be sure to read the instant rebate promo code line under the product title.

 

[Hofnaerrchen]

More than what in that article is said, I also have a theory that, this time motherboard manufacturers are not willing to support a motherboard for 3-4 years for free. So I believe that AM5 motherboards integrate also a small TAX for that extra long time BIOS support. A motherboard manufacturer selling an LGA 1700 motherboard, know that will not have to add new architecture support for that LGA 1700 motherboard after 2023. On the other hand, the same manufacturer knows that the AM5 motherboard sold today, will need to get BIOS updates for at least until 2025. That much have a cost.

Might be, but I think - and the artice you mentioned also states this - a quite high portion of the cost come from the higher part requirements: PCIe5, DDR5, VRM, Socket. There's not much left to put a premium for longevity. There are some quite interesting B650E MBs out there in the 300-350/400 bucks bracket that offer more or at least an equal amout of features than some of the better X470 or X570 boards and DDR5 got cheaper lately, BUT that's not AM5s main problem. The problem is the cost for a system consisting of R5, B650 and DDR5. If you are on a somewhat tight(er) budget you ignore upgradeability (I consider LGA1700 EOL, too in that regard) and go either for i5 12600K/13600k or R7 5800X3D. And when you are already on Zen 3 you might consider skipping 13th gen or Zen 4 (at least until Zen 4 3D arrives). That's the real problem AM5 is facing right now in my opinion.

 

[Chrispy_]

With barebones, stripped-down B650 entry-level boards costing ~$230 things are still screwed up on the motherboard side. You probably don't want to buy entry level AM5 boards either, because the CPUs are pulling way more power from the socket and you're going to want decent VRMs that are well-cooled.

B550 boards started at about $80 and $150 gets you top-tier B550 or a half-decent X570.

 

[trsttte]

It's not just that, the 650 boards are pretty much all out of the question for me as i need those SATA ports and at best i believe they have a max of 4. So if you need those you have to for the most part spend over $300+ on just a motherboard.



So a extra $140 just to get more SATA ports, in my eye's it's the mobo makers who failed and not as much as AMD.

You could also look at a sata HBA/LSI pcie expansion card. More than 4 built ports is getting less frequent (not necessarily a bad thing if we got pcie slots to use and HBA/LSI cards at decent prices, not always true though)

 

[Daven]

With barebones, stripped-down B650 entry-level boards costing ~$230 things are still screwed up on the motherboard side. You probably don't want to buy entry level AM5 boards either, because the CPUs are pulling way more power from the socket and you're going to want decent VRMs that are well-cooled.

B550 boards started at about $80 and $150 gets you top-tier B550 or a half-decent X570.

There are a handful of boards under $230 but AMD is just a two socket strategy right now like in the days of socket 754/939.

If you want a midrange or budget system you have to ho socket AM4.

 

[Shou Miko]

These are the prices on Newegg right now. Be sure to read the instant rebate promo code line under the product title.

That doesn't apply to me, I am un europe.

 

[AsRock]

You could also look at a sata HBA/LSI pcie expansion card. More than 4 built ports is getting less frequent (not necessarily a bad thing if we got pcie slots to use and HBA/LSI cards at decent prices, not always true though)

Sure if you do not mind block air flow to your GPU.

 

[Psychoholic]

Good to see the price drops.
I spent the full 699 on my 7950x, along with 500 for the x670E board a couple days after launch.
No biggie though, I like new shiny stuff

 

[Tek-Check]

Now, motherboards to go down, please! I can't run CPU in a Petri dish.

 

[HisDivineOrder]

Fix the motherboard costs and people might actually start buying them, Lisa. I get you don't want to be the low cost alternative, but there's being the value option and then there's just being too big for your britches.

And AMD is currently doing the latter. When Intel is arguing you're too high, you probably ought to reconsider especially if you have a product that is, at best, equal to the competition that's outpricing you and that's me being generous.

 

[Icon Charlie]

Now, motherboards to go down, please! I can't run CPU in a Petri dish.

You won't see that happen any time soon. IMHO this is ALL Dr. Lisa Su's fault.

I've stated in the past about the obscene cost of the motherboard and I was DEAD Right on the cost.

Because of AMD's move of reducing the price of the CPU actually correlates with what I thought was overall price of the CPU motherboard in question.
IMHO this was far easier to reduce their price on the CPU themselves than to tell the motherboard partners to drop their pricing.

This is a whole entire mess of upper management that let Intel back into the game. Do NOT tell me they could have allowed a DDR4/5 Chipset Combo that Intel has done with their MB chipset.

They could have but choose not to go that way.

 

[Deleted member 177333]

With such ridiculous motherboard prices, they ain't gonna sell any better...

Yep, that was my first thought. When I was researching what to upgrade to recently the key item that ensured I wouldn't upgrade to Ryzen 7k series right now is the mb & DDR5 prices.

 

[Prima.Vera]

@Daven I so agree, my 3770k does the job still. And hardware is getting better then it ever has, the longevity of a modern pc is longer then ever

I also had an i7 3770k. Finally decided to upgrade it to a i7 13700K after 10 years of flawless service. And I'm not at all impressed. So I know exactly what you mean.

 

[Fluffmeister]

Yeah, sad to see AMD milking the market for all it's worth. AM5 shit needs a another price cut.