GALAX Blurts Out GeForce RTX 4090 Ti HOF Product Branding

[btarunr]

GALAX in its website's front-page carousel, may have inadvertently blurted out the existence of a GeForce RTX 4090 Ti "Ada" SKU in the works. This may well be a typo by the designer of its carousel graphic, but the existence of an RTX 4090 Ti SKU isn't a question of if, but when. We know from our September 2022 article that the RTX 4090 only uses 88% of the streaming multiprocessors (SM) physically present on the 4 nm AD102 silicon (that's 128 out of 144 SM, or 16,384 out of 18,432 CUDA cores), although it maxes out its 384-bit GDDR6X memory bus.

The way NVIDIA carved the RTX 4090 out of the AD102 leaves it with plenty of room to create a faster SKU that maxes out the silicon, backing it with more GPU clock speed, possibly even 23 Gbps-rated GDDR6X memory, resulting in a top-spec flagship with ≥10% higher performance than the RTX 4090, to consolidate NVIDIA's position in the high-end segment—not that it's under much of a threat from AMD right now. The Radeon RX 7900 XTX trades blows with the RTX 4080, and is barely a threat to the RTX 4090. NVIDIA would still want something to sell at $2,000 if not more, and the only way it can do so is by maxing out the AD102 and hope that enthusiasts wanting to climb performance leaderboards would want such a card.



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[Neo_Morpheus]

Price will be US$2500, all tech sites would praise it and their dear leader jensen and all will be perfect.

 

[ZoneDymo]

2000+ they got it for the 3090ti they will get it for this

 

[ir_cow]

I'm not sure this is a surprise to anyone. NVIDIA has been doing this for YEARS now. It was the originally the Titan which had a full fledge die, now its the Ti model. It will come out 6 months before the next series and be 15-20% slower in comparison to the next gen.

 

[Ruru]

I wouldn't be surprised if the MSRP would be around 2999EUR/USD. But what a great strategy, first milk the customers with a cut-down model, then do the same again with a SKU with the full chip.

I'm not sure this is a surprise to anyone. NVIDIA has been doing this for YEARS now. It was the originally the Titan which had a full fledge die, now its the Ti model. It will come out 6 months before the next series and be 15-20% slower in comparison to the next gen.

The first Titan had also some shaders cut (2688 vs the full 2880 of GK110), 780 Ti and Titan Black had the full chip. Also Nvidia made clear that 3090 replaced the Titan model so I guess that it's their strategy in the future as well.

 

[Dirt Chip]

Good they don't stop at 4090 out of lack of compatition.
It might worth doing the 4090ti at a loss (which wouldn't happen, they will profit on that quite good) only to further strengthen the "GeForce" brand as the 'no compromise, max preformance, uber quality' option.

 

[evernessince]

I wouldn't be surprised if the MSRP would be around 2999EUR/USD. But what a great strategy, first milk the customers with a cut-down model, then do the same again with a SKU with the full chip.


The first Titan had also some shaders cut (2688 vs the full 2880 of GK110), 780 Ti and Titan Black had the full chip. Also Nvidia made clear that 3090 replaced the Titan model so I guess that it's their strategy in the future as well.

The xx90 cards absolutely do not replace titan cards. Marketed at two entirely different markets and are even in two separate categories on Nvidia's own website.

The 3090 only replaces the Titan's price tag, they are not feature equivalent.

 

[maxfly]

I look forward to the new and improved NV TI 12vhpwr connectors bbbbzzzzzzttt!!!

 

[wNotyarD]

If the Galax 3090 HOF already has two 12VHPWR connectors (which implies 8x8-pin through adapters), how many connectors will this need?

 

[bobsled]

The xx90 cards absolutely do not replace titan cards. Marketed at two entirely different markets and are even in two separate categories on Nvidia's own website.

The 3090 only replaces the Titan's price tag, they are not feature equivalent.

Where’s the 30 or 40 series Titan card? Certainly not in the consumer space or even existent in name. So yes, replacing the Titan cards for even more money, with less compute.

 

[fancucker]

The full complement chip will be so powerful that even an RDNA3 refresh addressing their efficiency/clock freq issues won't be able to compete with it. It's a total Nvidia Victory this generation.

 

[PLAfiller]

It's gorgeous! I mean HOF editions really cut in IMO. The crown is detachable, so you can plug in your side monitor and you get an aluminum support stick obviously.

 

[Fouquin]

I'm not sure this is a surprise to anyone. NVIDIA has been doing this for YEARS now. It was the originally the Titan which had a full fledge die, now its the Ti model. It will come out 6 months before the next series and be 15-20% slower in comparison to the next gen.

This may come as a shock, but the original GTX Titan was actually cut down due to manufacturing issues and a couple hardware bugs with GK110 Tesla cards being supplied to the Titan supercomputer (where GTX Titan got its name from). GTX Titan was salvage bin Tesla cards being sold to gamers and professionals. GTX Titan BLACK is the full (second revision) die.

What's funny is that they pulled off the same trick with Pascal, but there was no manufacturing reason for it. The Titan X (Pascal) and Titan Xp being different core configs was all for segmentation, and had little or possibly nothing to do with salvaging chips (as many salvage chips went toward the 1080 Ti launch inventory).

 

[Niceumemu]

You guys are crazy thinking the price will be 2000 to 2500 or so. It's pretty obvious the price will be $4090.

 

[GhostRyder]

I like Galax HOF cards and think this one is cool looking. Fact that we are talking about 4090 ti makes me cringe because we all know the reference is probably going to be $1800 - $2000 so this will be even more than that.

 

[Dirt Chip]

But what a great strategy, first milk the customers with a cut-down model, then do the same again with a SKU with the full chip.

It acctually is- it help many to get a 4090 as secont-hand (at ~4080 cost) out of those who will pay anything for de best of de best.
"Milking" those is a favor to us all, poor mortal being.

 

[AusWolf]

When I thought AIB design couldn't get any uglier...

Hands up if the "Ti" came to you as a surprise.

Edit: Oh, and look at the power connectors, guys!

 

[wNotyarD]

Edit: Oh, and look at the power connectors, guys!

As I said earlier, their 4090 HOF already uses two 12VHPWR connectors, and comes bundled with two 4x8-pin adapters. Its TGP, according to Galax themselves? 666W. Interpret it as you will.

 

[evernessince]

Where’s the 30 or 40 series Titan card? Certainly not in the consumer space or even existent in name. So yes, replacing the Titan cards for even more money, with less compute.

Exactly, less compute and high FP precision performance. Nvidia decided it was giving people too good a deal on Titan cards and now those people have to spend up on much more expensive cards oriented towards professionals. Nvidia created a new tier for gamers and forced people who need Titan features to more expensive products.

xx90 cards are strictly gmaing cards, Titan cards were for professionals and prosumers. A quick read of any Titan card page will tell you that, hence why Nvidia doesn't list Titan cards under it's gaming cards and separates them in the driver section. Gaming cards under GTX, Titan cards under Titan.

 

[Nihillim]

xx90 cards are strictly gmaing cards,

The first 3 xx90s(granted, one was never launched) were dual gpu cards. I guess dual gpu didn't play out well, because xx90 naming had vanished for several years, then came back as these: 3090, 3090Ti, 4090, 4090Ti.
So are these really xx90s, or jacked up xx80/80Tis?

 

[wNotyarD]

The first 3 xx90s(granted, one was never launched) were dual gpu cards. I guess dual gpu didn't play out well, because xx90 naming had vanished for several years, then came back as these: 3090, 3090Ti, 4090, 4090Ti.
So are these really xx90s, or jacked up xx80/80Tis?

The x90s were and still are the apex of the GeForce gaming portfolio. Earlier that was achieved using dual x80s, but since SLI died they now simply are (teorically) the biggest and best Nvidia can pump out.
Who lost something along the way was the xx80 series, which was the single GPU champ and now is second fiddle.

 

[Nihillim]

The x90s were and still are the apex of the GeForce gaming portfolio. Earlier that was achieved using dual x80s, but since SLI died they now simply are (teorically) the biggest and best Nvidia can pump out.
Who lost something along the way was the xx80 series, which was the single GPU champ and now is second fiddle.

Huh? Then we just forget that xx80Ti was top dog for a whopping 7 years, between GTX 690 and RTX 3090?
The naming gave Nvidia an opportunity to shift goalposts as well as pricing. If dual die on PCB wasn't working out, why didn't they go single die for xx90 starting with GTX 700?
Is it because of the Titans - the first of which popped up 9 months after the GTX 690.

 

[wNotyarD]

Huh? Then we just forget that xx80Ti was top dog for a whopping 7 years, between GTX 690 and RTX 3090?
The naming gave Nvidia an opportunity to shift goalposts as well as pricing. If dual die on PCB wasn't working out, why didn't they go single die for xx90 starting with GTX 700?
Is it because of the Titans - the first of which popped up 9 months after the GTX 690.

I may be mistaken then, or at least in need of some reminding. Was any Titan promoted as GeForce (aka gaming line)?

 

[Nihillim]

I may be mistaken then, or at least in need of some reminding. Was any Titan promoted as GeForce (aka gaming line)?

Yes. Titan X, Z, and Black. Then they 'dropped' it, starting with X Pascal.

 

[SLObinger]

Is that a GPU with a crown that is also a screen?

As long as it comes with that crown screen thingy its worth every bit of crazy they charge for it.

I mean it's a GPU with a crown!!! that is also a screen!!!!