MSI Settles Debate on its Radeon RX 7900 Series Launch

[btarunr]

MSI was conspicuous with its lack of Radeon RX 7900 series graphics cards at launch, with neither product announcements, nor even placeholder product pages on its website as of this writing. Rumors started to fly on social media that the company is skipping the RX 7900 series, and that all is not well between MSI and AMD Radeon group. MSI last week laid many of these rumors to rest, with its MSI Gaming Twitter handle quote-tweeting an AMD Radeon handle with the message "Available Soon."

Andreas Schilling of HardwareLuxx.de added more clarity on the issue with some first-hand info: although MSI skipped the December 12/13 launch dates, the company is preparing to release some custom-design RX 7900 series cards, and will present them in Q1-2023. The company is however skipping the launch of reference-design MBA (made by AMD) cards under its own brand—something most other AMD add-in board (AIB) partners did release on December 12. Although AMD directly sells reference-design cards, it also sells them through its AIB partners, by allowing them to use their own brand identity, custom packaging, inclusions, and product warranty specific to the brand.



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[Bomby569]

If you're going to spend that kind of money i would never buy the reference cards. No idea why they did this, but seems smart to me. Leave customers better off for their money

 

[Joja]

If you're going to spend that kind of money i would never buy the reference cards. No idea why they did this, but seems smart to me. Leave customers better off for their money

If you're gonna spend that much on a 7900 XTX why even buy a 7900 XTX at that point, may as well buy a 4080 or make the jump for the 4090.

 

[Luminescent]

After EVGA scandal where we found out how little money they make from GPU's i guess they are not in a hurry to waste time with Amd, isn't it enough they wasted time with RTX 4080's ? after the scalpers wave all is quiet.

 

[The King]

If you're gonna spend that much on a 7900 XTX why even buy a 7900 XTX at that point, may as well buy a 4080 or make the jump for the 4090.

Seems only logical?

 

[bobsled]

If you're gonna spend that much on a 7900 XTX why even buy a 7900 XTX at that point, may as well buy a 4080 or make the jump for the 4090.

Unless you really want RT, the 4080 is terrible value for money.

 

[Bomby569]

let's say your into FPS, why settle for 4090's mirerable 4k when you can have unlimited k and all rays traced and join the army

 

[Joja]

Seems only logical?
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Did you intentionally misunderstand my comment to make that meme?
"if you're gonna spend that much on a 7900 XTX" keyword "A" meaning that particular MSI 7900 XTX model, it would be pretty much the same price as an RTX 4080 with pretty much negligible differences in raster, but much worse RT, QoL stuff, power etc

 

[trsttte]

Did you intentionally misunderstand my comment to make that meme?
"if you're gonna spend that much on a 7900 XTX" keyword "A" meaning that particular MSI 7900 XTX model, it would be pretty much the same price as an RTX 4080 with pretty much negligible differences in raster, but much worse RT, QoL stuff, power etc

So apples to oranges with an upcharged 7900xtx and reference 4080? just take the L lol

If you're going to spend that kind of money i would never buy the reference cards

It depends, the nvidia reference models currently are very interesting imo and in the case of amd from what i've seen so far the reference boards are the only ones to include the USB-C output.

 

[Fouquin]

keyword "A" meaning that particular MSI 7900 XTX model

So in English when you want to avoid ambiguity when addressing a generally ambiguous subject, you use "this" or "that" to suggest you are addressing the current topic. So instead of saying "a 7900 XTX" (which could be quite literally any 7900 XTX in existence) you would say, "this 7900 XTX" which hooks into the context of the subject of this discussion (MSI's 7900 XTX). In effect, your words were ambiguous and we can't read your mind to infer what you ACTUALLY mean, so say what you mean. On the topic of MSI's 7900 XTX and how its value relates to a 4080, and how it's obviously a better deal to go to a 4080, I ask; how the hell do you know what the better value is when they haven't announced their card's spec, price, or design yet? You're either making a bold assumption based on bias, or you're being contrarian just for the sake of it.

it would be pretty much the same price as an RTX 4080 with pretty much negligible differences in raster

Would it be the same price? They haven't said so. Stick to the facts, not what your feelings tell you. Would it be a negligible difference in raster? Because testing results show that AIB 7900 XTXs are by and far superior to the 4080 in raster due to the factory overclocking headroom, with cards from ASUS and Sapphire pulling out 11-13% performance leads according to TPU's own testing.
Does this look negligible to you? Honest question. Oh and in that above comparison, the Sapphire Nitro is still cheaper than the base price of the 4080.

The only argument you made with any truth was that power draw is significantly lower on the 4080.

 

[eidairaman1]

So in English when you want to avoid ambiguity when addressing a generally ambiguous subject, you use "this" or "that" to suggest you are addressing the current topic. So instead of saying "a 7900 XTX" (which could be quite literally any 7900 XTX in existence) you would say, "this 7900 XTX" which hooks into the context of the subject of this discussion (MSI's 7900 XTX). In effect, your words were ambiguous and we can't read your mind to infer what you ACTUALLY mean, so say what you mean. On the topic of MSI's 7900 XTX and how its value relates to a 4080, and how it's obviously a better deal to go to a 4080, I ask; how the hell do you know what the better value is when they haven't announced their card's spec, price, or design yet? You're either making a bold assumption based on bias, or you're being contrarian just for the sake of it.



Would it be the same price? They haven't said so. Stick to the facts, not what your feelings tell you. Would it be a negligible difference in raster? Because testing results show that AIB 7900 XTXs are by and far superior to the 4080 in raster due to the factory overclocking headroom, with cards from ASUS and Sapphire pulling out 11-13% performance leads according to TPU's own testing. View attachment 275085
Does this look negligible to you? Honest question. Oh and in that above comparison, the Sapphire Nitro is still cheaper than the base price of the 4080.

The only argument you made with any truth was that power draw is significantly lower on the 4080.

Joja has proven to lack

 

[Bomby569]

It depends, the nvidia reference models currently are very interesting imo and in the case of amd from what i've seen so far the reference boards are the only ones to include the USB-C output.

you're right the new nvidia models are an exception, but the 3000 series were a mirage and these ones are stupid, so there is that

 

[Neo_Morpheus]

Maybe history is repeating itself.

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[Solaris17]

I didn’t even know this was a hypothetical issue. I wonder if was as wide spread a rumor as people thought? Maybe I just don’t spend enough time in Reddit threads.

 

[Auer]

I didn’t even know this was a hypothetical issue. I wonder if was as wide spread a rumor as people thought? Maybe I just don’t spend enough time in Reddit threads.

The less time you spend in Reddit threads, the less you need to shower.