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AMD Ryzen 7 7700X Price Trimmed to $299

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People might be on to a winner here if the mythical A chipset boards appear for 120.00 some cheap ram and you got a pretty decent pack for a reasonable price.
Even A620 boards are reported to cost over 100EUR/USD.
 
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As stated before Something has got to give. Since AMD REFUSES to give up on their AMD TAX on motherboards they are trying to entice more people into their setup by lowering their CPU prices. This will work with some people BUT.

IMHO The entire PC setup is TOO expensive for what you get over the past generation.
Secondly, people do not have the money to spend so they are NOT buying product.

I know exactly the business practice this company is doing because I've seen this before in other companies.

The only way to punish these companies is to NOT spend any money on their crap.

Again IMHO I am not getting any real Price vs Performance vs Value over the pervious generations of components and I am not going spend my money on these overall low performance increases. I am not Running a Microwave for my business in my work room just to get a few more seconds of content editing and/or a few FPS more in games.

Forget it. I just closed my wallet.

It is my humble opinion is to just wait on getting anything new. Because IMHO in AMD case they are up to something again and it is not going to be in the consumer's favor.

It will be better if you just stayed with your current generation of tech and if you need to buy something look at your options of buying 2021 and slightly newer tech.
 
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As stated before Something has got to give. Since AMD REFUSES to give up on their AMD TAX on motherboards they are trying to entice more people into their setup by lowering their CPU prices. This will work with some people BUT.
I'm not sure that is correct. AMD does not produce any motherboards nor chips for the boards as far as I know. AIB companies do and they have their contracts with components suppliers. AM5 uses DDR5 ram and price for the chips cannot be blamed on AMD since they do not produce the chips to make DDR5 modules. I think same applies for the motherboards.

Below you have top chipset manufacturers. AMD is not even listed.

Top 20 Largest Motherboard Companies by Revenue
Here is a complete list of the top 20 motherboard companies ranked just by their revenues last year.

Rank

Motherboard Manufacturer

Revenue (USD millions)

1Intel71,900
2Asus12,110
3Acer8,112
4MSI4,000
5Gigabyte Technology1,940
6AOPEN Inc.1,570
7Elitegroup Computer Systems927.11
8Sapphire Technology590
9ASRock329.5
10American Megatrends175
11Leadtek170
12Biostar147
13Shuttle Computer Group138
14PNY Technologies124.84
15Chaintech97
16EVGA65
17Zotac50
18First International Computer37
19NZXT29
20XFX10
 
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They dropped once before this too, just not officially. They weren't selling. Also, not sure what kind of deal they made with MicroCenter, but the only reason they even sold as much as they have is because MicroCenter has been bundling free ddr5 6000 2x16gb kits with the 7000 series chips.

That deal is still ongoing, and has been almost since launch day. Desperation is an interesting new look for AMD.

I'm not replying to this post above, but it does demonstrate a interesting phenomenon....remember when people couldn't complain enough about the $50 increase on Ryzen 5000? I even saw people complaining just the other day about the new v-cache CPUs being to expensive....but what's crazy is that now AMD is lowering prices and now you got people calling it "desperation" and making fun of them.....am I the only one astonished by this? People complained and complained about prices being to high and now that AMD is lowering prices, they're calling it desperation and making fun of them.....I don't get it.

eh, they still haven't learned their lesson yet on gpu's running hotter than they should run. it's really nice to see nvidia with all of the 4000 series line, making sure companies provide proper heatsink sizes to run nice and cool. AMD has never once learned this, and I say good riddance. really looking forward to my 4070 ti.
What are you talking about? No seriously, show me the reviews where RDNA2 or RDNA1 or Polaris ran so hot that it was a chronic problem regardless of AIB....you say "AMD never once learned this" which implies its been a constant problem across every generation, so please show me what you're referring to with those three generations I referenced above.
 
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That's because the 5000 series still is a really good CPU series and with the first X3D cpu released that can still give a good punch in games and can be used with older 300 and 400 series chipset from AMD some go that route.

Even I did but I miss a onboard GPU these days with energy prices like the waves in the sea that's why I am currently selling my cpu and board going AMD Ryzen 7 7700 non-X because on week days I do not need my dedicated GPU to run what I do and some weekends to so if I can save the power that my CPU uses with hardware acceleration too it will be great plus AM5 will have support for a couple of years.

CPUs are largely irrelevant for games at modern resolutions like 4k anyway for almost all use cases.

Sure if you've got a 4090 and want 120fps+.

Casual gaming at 60 to 120 FPS, Even a near 10 year old 4790k does the job for me with a 6800xt.
 

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I'm not replying to this post above, but it does demonstrate a interesting phenomenon....remember when people couldn't complain enough about the $50 increase on Ryzen 5000? I even saw people complaining just the other day about the new v-cache CPUs being to expensive....but what's crazy is that now AMD is lowering prices and now you got people calling it "desperation" and making fun of them.....am I the only one astonished by this? People complained and complained about prices being to high and now that AMD is lowering prices, they're calling it desperation and making fun of them.....I don't get it.


What are you talking about? No seriously, show me the reviews where RDNA2 or RDNA1 or Polaris ran so hot that it was a chronic problem regardless of AIB....you say "AMD never once learned this" which implies its been a constant problem across every generation, so please show me what you're referring to with those three generations I referenced above.

tom's hardware source,

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and TPU review for 6800 XT

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and 4070 ti's for comparison. much colder hotspots. any more questions? or is class dismissed?

edit: and AMD intiially said 100+ celsius was normal for 7900 xtx, but they have since backtracked lol.

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CPUs are largely irrelevant for games at modern resolutions like 4k anyway for almost all use cases.

Sure if you've got a 4090 and want 120fps+.

Casual gaming at 60 to 120 FPS, Even a near 10 year old 4790k does the job for me with a 6800xt.
The IPC uplift is better because your old i7-4790K is still a good cpu yes but the newer has better IPC than your old CPU so you will be able to feel it.

I still have a low end 4th gen i3 with ECC memory I use for a XP gaming pc and there it works fine, and I owned several CPU's since my own i7-4790K so I haven't felt the uplift much but you will if you change.
 
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The IPC uplift is better because your old i7-4790K is still a good cpu yes but the newer has better IPC than your old CPU so you will be able to feel it.

I still have a low end 4th gen i3 with ECC memory I use for a XP gaming pc and there it works fine, and I owned several CPU's since my own i7-4790K so I haven't felt the uplift much but you will if you change.

It's just because GPU bottle necked at 4k. CPU is waiting for 6800xt. For my use case, no reason to change CPU.

If I had a 4090 I'd notice a difference. Though also need 144hz+ 4k screen also or pretty pointless.
 
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Lol, fastest discounted product i have ever seen, suck to be early adopters of 7700X i guess
Perhaps you've forgotten the GTX 280 and GTX 260. In any case, motherboard prices are the biggest problem of the AM5 platform.
 
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I'm not sure that is correct. AMD does not produce any motherboards nor chips for the boards as far as I know. AIB companies do and they have their contracts with components suppliers. AM5 uses DDR5 ram and price for the chips cannot be blamed on AMD since they do not produce the chips to make DDR5 modules. I think same applies for the motherboards.

Below you have top chipset manufacturers. AMD is not even listed.

Top 20 Largest Motherboard Companies by Revenue
Here is a complete list of the top 20 motherboard companies ranked just by their revenues last year.

Rank

Motherboard Manufacturer

Revenue (USD millions)

1Intel71,900
2Asus12,110
3Acer8,112
4MSI4,000
5Gigabyte Technology1,940
6AOPEN Inc.1,570
7Elitegroup Computer Systems927.11
8Sapphire Technology590
9ASRock329.5
10American Megatrends175
11Leadtek170
12Biostar147
13Shuttle Computer Group138
14PNY Technologies124.84
15Chaintech97
16EVGA65
17Zotac50
18First International Computer37
19NZXT29
20XFX10
Hi,
Never knew intel made mother boards :eek:
 

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With all the initial quirks they have, it's best to buy cheap outdated AMD products rather their brand new lineup
Initial quirks? I built my AM5 rig around the mid-end of Jan and not had any issues so far. No quirks at all. I've never had to do any BIOS updates, patches, rollbacks, crashes, adjustments etc. It's just worked out of the box for me. What quirks have you heard about?
 
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With all the initial quirks they have, it's best to buy cheap outdated AMD products rather their brand new lineup
And here once again AMD claim the budget title.
 
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Lol, fastest discounted product i have ever seen, suck to be early adopters of 7700X i guess
You must be new. Go back to the Rocket Lake launch. It was practically discounted when it launched.
 
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As stated before Something has got to give. Since AMD REFUSES to give up on their AMD TAX on motherboards they are trying to entice more people into their setup by lowering their CPU prices. This will work with some people BUT.

IMHO The entire PC setup is TOO expensive for what you get over the past generation.
Secondly, people do not have the money to spend so they are NOT buying product.

I know exactly the business practice this company is doing because I've seen this before in other companies.

The only way to punish these companies is to NOT spend any money on their crap.

Again IMHO I am not getting any real Price vs Performance vs Value over the pervious generations of components and I am not going spend my money on these overall low performance increases. I am not Running a Microwave for my business in my work room just to get a few more seconds of content editing and/or a few FPS more in games.

Forget it. I just closed my wallet.

It is my humble opinion is to just wait on getting anything new. Because IMHO in AMD case they are up to something again and it is not going to be in the consumer's favor.

It will be better if you just stayed with your current generation of tech and if you need to buy something look at your options of buying 2021 and slightly newer tech.
Actually fairly cheap. I’m in the market for another vehicle. Now that’s harsh!!

Perhaps you've forgotten the GTX 280. In any case, motherboard prices are the biggest problem of the AM5 platform.
Ya initially ddr5 didn’t help but it’s getting better though.
 
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As stated before Something has got to give. Since AMD REFUSES to give up on their AMD TAX on motherboards they are trying to entice more people into their setup by lowering their CPU prices. This will work with some people BUT.

IMHO The entire PC setup is TOO expensive for what you get over the past generation.
Secondly, people do not have the money to spend so they are NOT buying product.

I know exactly the business practice this company is doing because I've seen this before in other companies.

The only way to punish these companies is to NOT spend any money on their crap.

Again IMHO I am not getting any real Price vs Performance vs Value over the pervious generations of components and I am not going spend my money on these overall low performance increases. I am not Running a Microwave for my business in my work room just to get a few more seconds of content editing and/or a few FPS more in games.

Forget it. I just closed my wallet.

It is my humble opinion is to just wait on getting anything new. Because IMHO in AMD case they are up to something again and it is not going to be in the consumer's favor.

It will be better if you just stayed with your current generation of tech and if you need to buy something look at your options of buying 2021 and slightly newer tech.
It is eternally the case that,

If you bought last generation components, and are a normal dude/dudete weva.

It's not worth upgrading one generation later.


I see plenty of options cheap to expensive, has it been better yes sure, have you forgot the last mining boom so fast, when my Vega64 could have earned more than new, with a waterblock, at one point three years old.

Damn people get excited about tech.

Oh and I partially agree then, but if you're GPU is going on 6/7 years old f£#@ it buy new or second hand old last generation, new this generation is a little expensive.

I'm on last generation platform, it'll suit you fine, 99.8% of world.
 
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Hum.. seems only applicable to US as price has not changed in Canada. :(
 

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7600x for 200e and 7700x for 240 and we have a deal.
 

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The thing that turned me away from these series was weak integrated graphics. I am familiar with iGPUs from using CPUs such as 5600g. GPUs in 7000 series are much weaker making them impossible to use for light gaming. When I choose AMD, I want iGPU no weaker than that G.
A very decent integrated cheap that can be used if something happens to your dedicated gpu.
I am sure, the next series with a better gpu, lower MB prices will sell better. Then there is also x3d coming which will attract plenty of people who skipped on these series.
 
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Really? Faster then the 12th gen series price hike (to make their 13th gen seem like a better deal) and subsequent price drop (because business is going poorly)?
And now Intel cutting is cutting the price of AL 20% and at a time Raptor Lakes salesa re terrible, but suppliers are saying Intel refuse to discount Raptor Lake. So AMD is coming to their senses and making hay while the sun shines. Too bad they won't do the same with 7900 gpus. They both need $100 price cut.
 
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I’m not so sure about that. Intel has been doing very well in the lower to mid tier processors especially on price.
Indeed it was sarcasm as AMD can only be considered somewhat budget on older hardware and even there Intel has very good offer too :rolleyes:

You must be new. Go back to the Rocket Lake launch. It was practically discounted when it launched.
Dose ZEN4 so bas as to stand together with the nonexist Rocket-Lake?
I hope not..
 
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And now Intel cutting is cutting the price of AL 20% and at a time Raptor Lakes salesa re terrible, but suppliers are saying Intel refuse to discount Raptor Lake. So AMD is coming to their senses and making hay while the sun shines. Too bad they won't do the same with 7900 gpus. They both need $100 price cut.

200 dollars if you ask me, same for just about all gpu's out there atm.
 
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Im not surprised. There really is no reason to upgrade CPUs every gen, or every other gen. Skylake chips are still capable of maintaining 60 fps in most games. 6 core+Skylake++++++ has enough gas left for many more years. Ryzen 3000/5000 are plenty for modern games and are capable of hitting well over 100 FPS.

The only ones that would really benefit from a new CPU today are Ryzen 1000/2000/3000g users,, and those can buy a 5800x/3d.

Ryzen 7000 just doesn't process a viable path for users unless they are enthusiasts who must have the newest shiny. For everyone else the cost/benefit just doesn't work so long as alder lake motherboards and am4 boards are still available at lower prices.
 
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