The 4050m, 4060m, and 4070m were just introduced yesterday... and they all basically suck. 4080m and 4090m (introduced a couple weeks ago) are both well ahead of any mobile GPUs that have existed (though very expensive)... but...
The 4070m is struggling to match the 3070m and 3070Ti at the same 140W power limits!
The 4060m is slightly faster than the 3060m, as a a 105W 4060m is about on par with a 140W 3060m. So maybe the 33% power increase with a full power 4060m is worth +10% in performance?
The 4050m is well ahead of the 3050Ti... but you'd expect that since the 4050m has a whopping 140W limit vs 95W on the 3050Ti. It isn't keeping up with the 140W 3060m, though.
JarrodTech comparison of 3070 Ti and 4070:
Notebookcheck's poor "analysis" of 4050, 4060, and 4070 laptop GPUs: https://www.notebookcheck.net/GeFor...eam-Laptop-GPUs-in-Review.696414.0.html#toc-8
It's poor because they didn't attempt to normalize for TGP, and compared full power 4000 laptops to last gen averages. So I looked up their tests of Legion notebooks with 3060 and 3070 Ti GPUs. Scroll down to the game benchmark data and compare to the 4000 series:
Everybody was hoping the 4000 series would push down the price of 3000 series laptops, but that ain't happening... it will probably push them up! Legion 5i Pros with 12th gen Intel and 3070 Ti have been $1400 lately, and cheaper than that in the past. Cheap 3070m models have been <$1000. High quality 3060m laptops were going on sale for <$1000, with cheaper models ~$700. The absolute cheapest 4050m is $1,000. I haven't seen a 4070m for under $1600, and the nice ones are >$2000.
You'll all be hating on Nvidia, but I put at least as much blame on AMD. They pretty much did nothing with laptop GPUs this year, and so have less presence than the weak presence they had before. A laptop manufacturer will always wish to incorporate the latest in their new machines. When there is no competition, this is what we get.
Desktop users can hope that the situation is a little better when the midrange 4000 series cards drop. At least AMD can provide some competition there even with old 6000 series cards.
The 4070m is struggling to match the 3070m and 3070Ti at the same 140W power limits!
The 4060m is slightly faster than the 3060m, as a a 105W 4060m is about on par with a 140W 3060m. So maybe the 33% power increase with a full power 4060m is worth +10% in performance?
The 4050m is well ahead of the 3050Ti... but you'd expect that since the 4050m has a whopping 140W limit vs 95W on the 3050Ti. It isn't keeping up with the 140W 3060m, though.
JarrodTech comparison of 3070 Ti and 4070:
Notebookcheck's poor "analysis" of 4050, 4060, and 4070 laptop GPUs: https://www.notebookcheck.net/GeFor...eam-Laptop-GPUs-in-Review.696414.0.html#toc-8
It's poor because they didn't attempt to normalize for TGP, and compared full power 4000 laptops to last gen averages. So I looked up their tests of Legion notebooks with 3060 and 3070 Ti GPUs. Scroll down to the game benchmark data and compare to the 4000 series:
Everybody was hoping the 4000 series would push down the price of 3000 series laptops, but that ain't happening... it will probably push them up! Legion 5i Pros with 12th gen Intel and 3070 Ti have been $1400 lately, and cheaper than that in the past. Cheap 3070m models have been <$1000. High quality 3060m laptops were going on sale for <$1000, with cheaper models ~$700. The absolute cheapest 4050m is $1,000. I haven't seen a 4070m for under $1600, and the nice ones are >$2000.
You'll all be hating on Nvidia, but I put at least as much blame on AMD. They pretty much did nothing with laptop GPUs this year, and so have less presence than the weak presence they had before. A laptop manufacturer will always wish to incorporate the latest in their new machines. When there is no competition, this is what we get.
Desktop users can hope that the situation is a little better when the midrange 4000 series cards drop. At least AMD can provide some competition there even with old 6000 series cards.
