Arctic Rolls Out the P12 MAX Case Fan

[Cheeseball]

https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-P12-Max-High-Performance-Controlled/dp/B09VDNKL4G

^ Non-referral link to the exact product on US Amazon.

 

[Minus Infinity]

The $25 P12 PWM 5-packs are fantastic value.

Are they the best fans ever? No.
Are they plenty good enough and 1/4 the price of comparable fans, Hell yes.

Realistically, if you need a better fan than a P12 PWM then you should probably be spending $25 per fan. Nothing else in the P12's price bracket comes close...

In Australia, the land of the great PC component rip-off, Arctic were by far the best value good quality fans I could find. I got a 5 pack of 140mm PWM fans for less than one stinking Noctua. I can daisy chain my fans too and they have been going great for 2 years now. I've set my fan curves so my Phanteks P500A with 6 fans total is barely audible even when gaming on a hot day.

 

[Sabotaged_Enigma]

From official website:
Performance
Fan Speed: 200 – 3300 rpm, (0 rpm under 5% PWM)
Airflow: 81.04 CFM/ 137.69 m³/h
Static Pressure: 4.35 mm H₂O
Noise Level: 0.6 Sone
Warranty: 6 Years
Fan
Fan Frame: Standard
Control Type: Pulse Width Modulation - PWM
Connector: 4-Pin-Connector
Fan Bearing: Dual Ball Bearing
Electric Characteristics:
Typical Voltage: 12 V DC
Starting Voltage: 3.9 V
Current/ Voltage: 0.29 A / 12 V
Cable Length: 400 mm
Size & Weight
Length: 120 mm
Width: 120 mm
Height: 25 mm
Weight: 184 g

I'm looking to get one, to replace my F12. I'm happy with my P12.

 

[Devastator0]

In Australia, the land of the great PC component rip-off, Arctic were by far the best value good quality fans I could find. I got a 5 pack of 140mm PWM fans for less than one stinking Noctua. I can daisy chain my fans too and they have been going great for 2 years now. I've set my fan curves so my Phanteks P500A with 6 fans total is barely audible even when gaming on a hot day.

I am just here to comment on your opening line and oh how right you are. We get totally ripped on all PC components. So damn expensive, everything is a pain right now.

 

[ViperXTR]

 

[NRANM]

Any fan has a variance of around plus or minus 10% of the rated rpm = 330. From 0-100% pwm (or even 10%-100%, ballpark is about the same) the fans can be controlled in 33rpm steps (vs. around 15rpm for a regular fan), much lower than their tolerance is or anyone could discern, so no, you don't loose any meaningfull granularity with such a high speed fan.

I meant the motherboard UEFI. If the fan has such a high maximum RPM, which I don't it ever reaching, I have to lump all speed/control points closer together. Call it a personal pet peeve if you prefer. Considering how useless 3300 RPM is, I consider this an unnecessary complication.

I would definitely use them for one of my water cooled folding rigs to cool radiators when things are going full bore. For my main rig I would consider them too when I'm benching. These are enthusiast parts, not for someone's gaming rig.

First and foremost, I seriously doubt that the difference in performance between 1800 RPM (of the regular P12) and 3300 RPM would be nearly as high to justify the added noise, unless you need every tiny bit of performance, but in that case the entire setup is probably insufficient.
Secondly, enthusiasts would most likely purchase Noctua, be Quiet!, or Phanteks fans, not Arctic ones.

 

[Sandbo]

Actually looks pretty amazing given the price. Question maybe then how long living it can be - with Noctua I can get a new one within 5 years and I actually had to do it for a couple.

 

[darrenj]

And how exactly does it achieve this magical feat ? Oh do tell please....

And no, the product page does NOT provide any useful explanations either, I already looked

Dual ball bearings & high static pressure aren't exactly a new features after all, so any mfgr making claims like this without providing the facts to back it up seems moar like pure marketying nonsense than anything else, which is about what we have come to accept from these so-called "PR's"

Your such a bonehead!!

 

[freeagent]

Merely increasing the rpms by 80% does not in & of itself guarantee increased performance...

Have you ever run high performance fans?

 

[Bomby569]

you can't go wrong with arctic fans, great price performance

 

[damric]

I meant the motherboard UEFI. If the fan has such a high maximum RPM, which I don't it ever reaching, I have to lump all speed/control points closer together. Call it a personal pet peeve if you prefer. Considering how useless 3300 RPM is, I consider this an unnecessary complication.


First and foremost, I seriously doubt that the difference in performance between 1800 RPM (of the regular P12) and 3300 RPM would be nearly as high to justify the added noise, unless you need every tiny bit of performance, but in that case the entire setup is probably insufficient.
Secondly, enthusiasts would most likely purchase Noctua, be Quiet!, or Phanteks fans, not Arctic ones.

Case? You don't use a case with fans like this. You use a test bench. Again, these aren't for gamers or regular people that need cases lol.

 

[bobbybluz]

Have you ever run high performance fans?

Do Delta server fans count as "high performance"? I have more of their 150cfm 120x25mm FFB1212EH's in use than any other fans. For 140mm all I use are the SilverStone FHP-141's running at full speed (171cfm, they're a two speed fan with switches on them. The contacts on the switch have a habit of going bad so I solder them to bypass the switch). Loud? Yes. Push amazing amounts of air? Most definitely!

Case? You don't use a case with fans like this. You use a test bench. Again, these aren't for gamers or regular people that need cases lol.

80cfm is 30cfm less than any fan I have in use and they're all in or on cases (I externally mount them at times along with radiators).

 

[kiakk]

This looks like they took the improved P12 RGB, removed the RGB and increased max RPM.

Seems, You are right, but this MAX has dual ball bearing motor, not plain bearing like the P12 RGB.
Huge plus +++ for not having RGB bullshit.

 

[bonehead123]

Have you ever run high performance fans?

Nope, I just go around spouting off random bullshit about whatever nonsense I see each day, mainly because I have the experience of using & building computers since the DOS days, that's all

I've probably used at least as many, or possibly moar, "high-performance" fans than most people have forgotten about years ago....

Your such a bonehead!!

Hummmm.... I thought personal attacks/childish name calling were not allowed here.... not that I really give a sh^t, but hey, rulz are rulz, yes ?

Perhaps the mods can clarify this for us ?

 

[AsRock]

I need a 140mm version of this because I ain't buying noctua's NF-a14 3000 at 35€ for a single fan..
At least arctic pricing makes sense

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Then you be after the P14, and that be crazy a 140mm doing 3kRPM haha. love to see more 140mmx38 and slower RPM.

 

[Drash]

I loved Arctic Rolls as a kid

https://groceries.morrisons.com/products/birds-eye-original-arctic-roll-raspberry-565822011

 

[bobbybluz]

Then you be after the P14, and that be crazy a 140mm doing 3kRPM haha. love to see more 140mmx38 and slower RPM.

Check out the SilverStone FHP-141. 140x38mm, has a dual speed switch and pushes air from mild to wild (171cfm max). They also have a version with another switch for reversing the air flow direction. I've been using them for many years and haven't had one die yet.

 

[AsRock]

Check out the SilverStone FHP-141. 140x38mm, has a dual speed switch and pushes air from mild to wild (171cfm max). They also have a version with another switch for reversing the air flow direction. I've been using them for many years and haven't had one die yet.

Key word was more, and their like $30 fans.

 

[thewan]

The $25 P12 PWM 5-packs are fantastic value.

Are they the best fans ever? No.
Are they plenty good enough and 1/4 the price of comparable fans, Hell yes.

Realistically, if you need a better fan than a P12 PWM then you should probably be spending $25 per fan. Nothing else in the P12's price bracket comes close...

Now if only they do not discriminate by country and sell these multi pack bargains at all the countries they have official presence in.

 

[ZeDestructor]

The new ring structure support for the blades looks nice, but is there a good reason for one solid chunk of plastic for the ring structure versus a more of a mesh design with a good bit less plastic and lighter at the same time. I still like the fan blade structural support, but it certainly looks like a good amount of added plastic waste.

Better aerodynamic performance and lower noise, more or less. by using the fan ring, what they're actually doing is moving the "wind tunnel" to fully intersect the edge of the fan blades (the holy grail would be a completely static wall that's touching the blades, and this is the next best), at the cost of a bit more drag and more inertia. Having it be a mesh, or curved plastic would reduce the effectiveness of the fan ring because it would incur more drag and possible induce turbulence at that edge

Now if only they do not discriminate by country and sell these multi pack bargains at all the countries they have official presence in.

And keep the stock levels reliably high!

 

[bobbybluz]

Key word was more, and their like $30 fans.

I bought three of them off Amazon for $22 each in January. Their price fluctuates on there. The V2 version is the one to get.

 

[NRANM]

Case? You don't use a case with fans like this. You use a test bench. Again, these aren't for gamers or regular people that need cases lol.

Yes, a case. Because the overwhelming majority of customers of computer fans use them in cases, not for test benches. I am inclined to agree that these new Arctic fans can have their uses for test benches, however, this isn't how most people would use them. And I would assume that people who have test benches are enthusiast enough to purchase higher quality fans. I'm not implying Arctic fans are crap, just that Noctua, be Quiet!, and Phanteks are overall superior.
Besides, I don't see anywhere in the press release or on Arctic's website that these P12 Max fans are designed/intended for test benches, thus, I default to a typical usage: inside a case.

 

[Oberon]

HC's numbers are very suspect, and not just for this fan.

 

[gasolin]

And how exactly does it achieve this magical feat ? Oh do tell please....

And no, the product page does NOT provide any useful explanations either, I already looked

Dual ball bearings & high static pressure aren't exactly a new features after all, so any mfgr making claims like this without providing the facts to back it up seems moar like pure marketying nonsense than anything else, which is about what we have come to accept from these so-called "PR's"

Because it has much higher rpm than the stock p12 fans