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Sabrent and Phison Collaborating on Record Breaking PCIe Gen 5 SSD

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In the last few months, we have seen a wealth of new systems that all support Gen 5 SSD capabilities. A few companies have even released Gen 5 SSDs rating in the 10,000 MB/s range. At Sabrent, we have been working very hard to bring this new product to market while working extremely closely with Phison to develop our new line of Gen 5 SSDs to push the boundaries to 14,000 MB/s. There have been many challenges to overcome with these new products to meet our strict requirements for new drives to enter our lineup of high-quality products. We have been working to make the best Gen 5 SSD possible to improve system performance and user experience. Here we have our new Sabrent Rocket X5 Gen 5 SSD being tested to our specifications.

We will showcase examples of what we have come up with to demonstrate our commitment to bringing the highest quality and top performers to the marketplace.
There is no doubt that many have already seen the Tech Demo sample results that were sent out by Phison. We aim to improve that and increase the performance as high as possible. At this stage, we have passed 12,000 MB/s with the technology available. Below we'd like to show a sample of what we are able to achieve with the Technology Demo we present to you today.



With our CrystalDiskMark testing runs, we have broken records that top the charts. Over 12,000 MB/s in both Sequential Read and almost 12,000 MB/s Sequential Writes numbers to drool over. Technology is limiting us at this point to reaching the 14,000 MB/s goal, but we suspect that will come at a later point.

The new Rocket X5 is still in the tuning process, and we expect performance to improve even better. This still needs to be a finished and finalized product, but we are moving forward with the technology we have at hand now. To name a few items, many things can change, including the name and label. As we work with Phison very closely, new tech is on the way, and Phison assists us in pushing what we have now to achieve groundbreaking results.

Stay tuned to Sabrent for news on our other top-performing products as we approach the release. Our Test Lab is very busy these days with many new groundbreaking products we will release soon.

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100MB/s+ for random read.
unless it surpasses the Samsung 990 PRO which gets 115+, theres no point getting a phison based ssd. Which btw there is no need to wait for Sabrent and their "tuning". Current phison based gen 5 ssds that "only" achieve 10,000 MB/s range already reach 100+ for random read. So it looks like their tuning only applies to Sequential speeds. It didn't improve the random reads.
 
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unless it surpasses the Samsung 990 PRO which gets 115+, theres no point getting a phison based ssd. Which btw there is no need to wait for Sabrent and their "tuning". Current phison based gen 5 ssds that "only" achieve 10,000 MB/s range already reach 100+ for random read. So it looks like their tuning only applies to Sequential speeds. It didn't improve the random reads.
I thought so too, until it was explained to me that these big results in the TweakTown tables were obtained at selected test settings with minimum loads to show the maximum possible as a number.
 
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unless it surpasses the Samsung 990 PRO which gets 115+, theres no point getting a phison based ssd.
I mean, who in their right mind pays extra for a "Pro" SSD, only to utilize it in burst workloads? Doesn't that kill the whole point of sustained workload performance? The 990 Pro is embarrasingly slower than the 970 Pro which was MLC based, and even the 980 Pro. Oh and then both the 980 Pro and 990 Pro were designed unreliably. I want to see an NVMe SSD that has NAND that can beat 2 GBps sustained. The only two I'm aware of are the Optane SSDs, and the 983 ZET (which is SLC, and I want it).
 
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Without knowing what controller they're using, it's impossible to get excited about this. Unless Phison has already been able to produce a PCIe 5.0 controller that doesn't consume more energy than a nuclear reactor, this is wholly uninteresting.

@T0@st Why does the source link go to Sabrent's Twitter? It should go to https://www.tweaktown.com/news/9068...-pcie-gen-5-ssd-speeds-up-14000-mb/index.html
I mean, who in their right mind pays extra for a "Pro" SSD, only to utilize it in burst workloads? Doesn't that kill the whole point of sustained workload performance? The 990 Pro is embarrasingly slower than the 970 Pro which was MLC based, and even the 980 Pro. Oh and then both the 980 Pro and 990 Pro were designed unreliably. I want to see an NVMe SSD that has NAND that can beat 2 GBps sustained. The only two I'm aware of are the Optane SSDs, and the 983 ZET (which is SLC, and I want it).
I'm sure you don't want to pay for it, though.
 

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Without knowing what controller they're using, it's impossible to get excited about this. Unless Phison has already been able to produce a PCIe 5.0 controller that doesn't consume more energy than a nuclear reactor, this is wholly uninteresting.

@T0@st Why does the source link go to Sabrent's Twitter? It should go to https://www.tweaktown.com/news/9068...-pcie-gen-5-ssd-speeds-up-14000-mb/index.html

I'm sure you don't want to pay for it, though.
The head honcho for TPU got a press release from Sabrent via email. Sabrent's PR team hasn't published it as a news/puff piece on their own site, yet.
It's not Tweaktown's test/benchmark. Other tech websites have posted the exact same chart and information, presumably based on the email sent by Sabrent this week.
 
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Using a 1 gb file on a drive than can go 12 gb/sec? That's not a test, that's gambling until you get a random value that you like.
 

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unless it surpasses the Samsung 990 PRO which gets 115+, theres no point getting a phison based ssd. Which btw there is no need to wait for Sabrent and their "tuning". Current phison based gen 5 ssds that "only" achieve 10,000 MB/s range already reach 100+ for random read. So it looks like their tuning only applies to Sequential speeds. It didn't improve the random reads.
The other company only hits 115 when you enable full power mode. At that point it consumes more power than E26. Both are supposed to be limited to the M.2 spec of 11w.
 
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Pushing the boundaries is interesting for sure, but as always, the REAL question is how many arms, legs, kidneys, and testicles will we need to sell in order to afford these techno-marvels ? :D
 
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let me know when rando 4k numbers look like this

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Well if it runs without a 420 AIO and 6 x 140 fans like the other gen 5 drives - Im going to buy it....
 
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let me know when rando 4k numbers look like this

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That will happen when manufacturers finally decide to offer a permanent SLC mode (not just SLC cache) on their high-performance SSDs. Many people, for many use cases, would be willing to make the capacity vs. seq speed vs. random speed tradeoff.
 
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Record breaking with a big cooler to keep the SSD from throttling? Those numbers look great on paper, but we have seen this for many years, where the real life benefit for most users is 0. SSD latencies have been stagnant for many years.
 
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I'm sure you don't want to pay for it, though.
Oh no, I absolutely would pay for it, I'm actually limited by form factor. I ABSOLUTELY would get a 983 ZET 960 GB if I would have a spare PCIe x4 slot on my upcoming build, which I do not. (well, not on the PC that I would be using it with anyways). I require an NVMe because that's all the NUC Extreme can handle, the x4 slot is already being used by a capture card, and x16 slot is being used by graphics card.
 
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