NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Allegedly Launches on April 13

[JustBenching]

In case it's not super-duper-turbo obvious, BOTH companies are scamming people.
Also, MSRP's have been meaningless since 2020. If you're relying on them still, you're a fool. Every hardware review site and channel has repeated this incessantly for the last three years. If you ignore that advice, it's entirely on you.

Pricing of the 7900XT is just reflecting the real performance. It's 5/6ths of the 7900XTX so it should cost (at most) 5/6ths the price.

But my comparison wasn't done on msrp but on actual products sold throughout Europe using sites like idealo and geizhals. The 4070ti was pretty instantly at 929 while the xt was at least 100 euros higher. Anyways...

 

[Chrispy_]

But my comparison wasn't done on msrp but on actual products sold throughout Europe using sites like idealo and geizhals. The 4070ti was pretty instantly at 929 while the xt was at least 100 euros higher. Anyways...

Clearly, no. You were arguing performance/$ at MSRP as per Techspot's review. If you didnt' want to argue performance/$ at MSRP, perhaps you should have cited a different source?

You can't just choose different, historic pricing from 2 months ago in this week's news article to support your stance, especially not when the price is part of the data you're arguing (performance/MSRP-cost).

 

[JustBenching]

You were arguing performance/$ at MSRP as per Techspot's review. If you didnt' want to argue performance/$ at MSRP, perhaps you should have cited a different source?

Ι indeed was, but both techspots and even techpowerups msrps for both the 4070ti and the 7900xt was equally apart from reality for both. The graph you posted from techppowerup for example had the 4070ti at 800 - real price was 929 - that's a 16% increase. They had the 7900xt at 900 - real price was 1029 / 1049 - thats a difference of 15%. So their price to performance graphs were pretty accurate.

 

[Chrispy_]

Ι indeed was, but both techspots and even techpowerups msrps for both the 4070ti and the 7900xt was equally apart from reality for both. The graph you posted from techppowerup for example had the 4070ti at 800 - real price was 929 - that's a 16% increase. They had the 7900xt at 900 - real price was 1029 / 1049 - thats a difference of 15%. So their price to performance graphs were pretty accurate.

Why are you using that word "was" again.
Those "real" prices you're talking about aren't the real prices now. This is a news article from this week, not 9 weeks ago.

 

[Why_Me]

People should not settle for anything less than "super puper" this gen, given the price on those things.

Maybe even "super puper duper" is worth waiting for.


Sure, John:

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Anyone with an IQ knows the 4070 Ti 12GB is geared for gaming at 1440P. If you choose to game at 4K then get a card meant for gaming at 4K.

 

[medi01]

Anyone with an IQ knows the 4070 Ti 12GB is geared for gaming at 1440P. If you choose to game at 4K then get a card meant for gaming at 4K.

That a card faster than 3090Ti is a 1440p card.

Of course, genius.

And even that crappy "better perf / $" comes when actual street price is ignored.

 

[JustBenching]

And even that crappy "better perf / $" comes when actual street price is ignored.

Wrong. It had the better raster performance / $ at launch up until a couple of weeks ago. That's not taking into account the better RT, better power draw, FG etc

 

[medi01]

It had the better raster performance / $ at launch

The chart posted above is how things were at launch EVEN if you take faux MSRP at face value.

better power draw

It is about 10% behind 7900 XT and consumes roughly 10% less power.

better RT

"Better", right? Not "faster"?

Anyhow. Now that we know that "FPS with RT on drops, because not enough RT cores" is a lie (with even 4000 series dropping of 40%-ish with RT on), it also becomes obvious, that "RT advantage" is largely a war of "who sponsored more games with RT gimmick"

And even that is relevant only to those folks, who care about RT gimmickl.

FG

There is no proper use case for frame generation, something that TVs are doing with crappy hardware they have for more than a decade, but even that will get addressed shortly by AMD.

etc

There is no "etc", unless you mean "8 GB less RAM".