Reference NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Rumored to Launch at $749

[N3utro]

The rumors are wrong. There is no way the 4070 is only 50$ off the 4070ti while having 20% less cuda cores. No one would ever buy a 4070 which would make it a commercial failure and waste of money for nvidia

 

[N3M3515]

The rumors are wrong. There is no way the 4070 is only 50$ off the 4070ti while having 20% less cuda cores. No one would ever buy a 4070 which would make it a commercial failure and waste of money for nvidia

The 4080 was more of a ripoff and they still launched it a +$500 more than the one it replaced.......

 

[N3utro]

The 4080 was more of a ripoff and they still launched it a +$500 more than the one it replaced.......

That's another topic. What came to me is that 750$ might be the MSRP for a higher vram 4070 version, like a 16GB version instead of the 12GB 4070Ti. That would make sense.

 

[rv8000]

I'm sorry you had such a bad experience with the 4000 series. Hopefully you were able to get a full refund.

I guess, If you really want to ignore all the issues with the tech as it current exists be my guest.

 

[Klemc]

All this price thingie is non-sense, useless to calculate the last 50 dollars that make the difference or the +4gb RAM that could make it a better offer, price is crazy ands that's all... no need to enter in the details about 50 euros.

I have a 4070-ti and never thinked pay that much for a GPU in my life (i'd gaven them 500, bc RTX is pricy since always), but that's when i decided to upgrade my 1660S and that i had planned to take a higher-end card (i aways had only 60 series my whole life) then i buyed it anyway. I knew 4070 non-ti would have 5888 core, it was talked about since last year, so i even buyed a ti that i didn't planned nor never wanted.

The card i have has no value, in 2 years i sell it 150 bucks (but no, bc i planned to keep it also since long time), but if people buy, brand sells, so the only solution is to stop to buy.
I did it bc that's what i planned since a lot of years, if nobody can jump a gen, Nvidia will continue to sell at high price, all the way.

4000 is what i cal v1.0 , 2000 is first (no buy), it introduces RTX, 3000 good, 4000 FG ! = 0.1 / 0.5 / 1.0 (best value in RTX)

 

[xorbe]

Crazy. Looks like I will be skipping this gen entirely after all. Maybe 2024 brings better news.

 

[piffdaddy]

HAHA! Quick, everyone! Turn on that frame generation software to increase latency because.....
Because.....
Ummm.....
Well, because....we need some kind of lame method to make your purchase appear worthwhile and prove that you're getting more for your money.

No thanks. I wouldn't waste my money on Nvidia for this feature now or anytime in the future. If Nvidia needs to rely on special software to keep their new hardware relevant, then they're doing something wrong. I don't even use DLSS/DLSS2 with my 3080. I've tried and the end results always has some kind of fuzzy haze in parts of the game and I don't like it.....almost like a constant motion blur is active.

It's not like that. It didn't increase latency at least judging from my own system. If I have 80 fps without frame generation and latency was 10 or whatever it still stays at 10 when I'm getting 160 fps it's just butter smooth. I'd way rather have the option of frame generation than not. Just my real life experience

 

[Garrus]

It's not like that. It didn't increase latency at least judging from my own system. If I have 80 fps without frame generation and latency was 10 or whatever it still stays at 10 when I'm getting 160 fps it's just butter smooth. I'd way rather have the option of frame generation than not. Just my real life experience

The problem is NVidia is dedicating more and more silicon area to compute and FG and Tensor and all these things. You could just make a video card with 50 percent more cores for gaming instead. Then your latency is 10 and mine is 7, even my FPS is lower than your "FPS" from FG.

NVidia needs to make a video card for gaming. I don't want RT, DLSS, FG, Tensor, CUDA, any of this stuff. I want a GPU core designed for a gaming console.

They went in the wrong direction for gaming, that's why pricing has increased. Nothing good has come out since the 1080 Ti.

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Let me make it more clear. The 1080 Ti is 11 billion transistors. This RTX 4070 will come from almost 40 billion transistors.

Imagine if NVidia just took the 1080 Ti, shrunk it to 4nm, added the best VRAM you can get, and ran it at 3Ghz instead of 1.5Ghz. It would be faster and cheaper. 1/3 the cost.

 

[wolf]

I find this price highly unlikely, my 2c, it has to be lower. Might be interesting to see some of the member outrage here when the real price drops, and I may need to find a hat to eat, but I doubt it.

According to Moore's Law is Dead

Seriously @GFreeman, can't we do better than this for news sources? I mean, it's not even news, bottom feeders spreading rumours to desperately cling to relevance, don't play into it.

nGreedia

Show me on the doll where the greedy company touched you Don't worry, I jest, AMgreeD are just as bad, they hurt me too.

 

[PapaTaipei]

Ill take one for 300 max

 

[TheDeeGee]

superiority and the level of joy is hardly in question. It's the price! I suspect, for most, the asking price alone shattered a ton of optimisms. Some have waited for years to upgrade and patience didn't pay off. So a pretty hard-hit disappointment. Although for the cash splurge willing i'm glad you're enjoying the hell out of it... possibly a x3-x4 fold massive performance uplift over a 1070!

Oh, the price was a bitter pill to swallow. But i'm one of those with no other hobbies like drinking or smoking, or spending that much on a 1 week vacation trip. It made me feel okey with it, and i won't be upgrading until the 7070 Ti.

 

[ReallyBigMistake]

They should have launched it on april 1st because this card is a joke .

 

[john_]

The rumors are wrong. There is no way the 4070 is only 50$ off the 4070ti while having 20% less cuda cores. No one would ever buy a 4070 which would make it a commercial failure and waste of money for nvidia

Their only difference is in the GPU, so Nvidia could be selling that GPU $50 cheaper than the GPU for use in 4070 Ti. The rest of the card, memory, bus, PCB, whatever, seems to be the same, so yes, only $50 price reduction.
And let's not forget two things.

First that 4070 price will send more people to buy the 4070 Ti. The same happened with the price of RTX 4080, where many where... persuaded to spend $400 more and go for the RTX 4090.
Second. AMD is quiet. It doesn't make a wisper about mid range cards. So, they are waiting Nvidia to put the price tags and then they will come out with cards at $50-$100 lower. Adding the fact here that Gigabyte launched a new RX 6800 XT, probably means that AMD will NOT release ANYTHING in the coming months, meaning, $750 if you want a NEW card with NEW features (DLSS 3.0).

 

[frazzngarth]

50% more performance than 3070 for 50% more money, haha. I gather 70ti and 80 are selling well enough for them to persist with this nonsense, despite the headlines suggesting otherwise.

In fact, the RTX 3070 in 1440p has 30% lower performance than the RTX 3080ti... so even at best, if the 4070 was as powerful as a 3080Ti it would be a joke; but I think the 4070 will be closer to the 3080; It would be a terrible value, to have an acceptable value it would have to go down to 499 dollars lol

 

[Vayra86]

superiority and the level of joy is hardly in question. It's the price! I suspect, for most, the asking price alone shattered a ton of optimisms. Some have waited for years to upgrade and patience didn't pay off. So a pretty hard-hit disappointment. Although for the cash splurge willing i'm glad you're enjoying the hell out of it... possibly a x3-x4 fold massive performance uplift over a 1070!

Its quite precisely 3x faster, never 4x

Interestingly:
1070 MSRP = 379
4070ti MSRP = 799

Three generations worth and more than doubled in price for x3 perf. So quick, poor math says you gained 50% frames/dollar over the course of three whoppin generations. Except you did pay twice the entry fee to get there. Could have bought 2 generational x70s in a normal world.

 

[Kaleid]

They're trying to normalize the new high prices. Vote with your wallet

 

[neatfeatguy]

It's not like that. It didn't increase latency at least judging from my own system. If I have 80 fps without frame generation and latency was 10 or whatever it still stays at 10 when I'm getting 160 fps it's just butter smooth. I'd way rather have the option of frame generation than not. Just my real life experience

If you don't notice it, good for you then, but it's been shown that it does increase latency and it can be bad at times and easily noticeable over native gameplay.

Nvidia DLSS 3: Fake Frames or Big Gains?

Nvidia is making some pretty bold claims around DLSS 3, like the ability to 3x-4x performance with RTX 40 GPUs. Let's explore this new technology and see...

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[Dr. Dro]

All this price thingie is non-sense, useless to calculate the last 50 dollars that make the difference or the +4gb RAM that could make it a better offer, price is crazy ands that's all... no need to enter in the details about 50 euros.

I have a 4070-ti and never thinked pay that much for a GPU in my life (i'd gaven them 500, bc RTX is pricy since always), but that's when i decided to upgrade my 1660S and that i had planned to take a higher-end card (i aways had only 60 series my whole life) then i buyed it anyway. I knew 4070 non-ti would have 5888 core, it was talked about since last year, so i even buyed a ti that i didn't planned nor never wanted.

The card i have has no value, in 2 years i sell it 150 bucks (but no, bc i planned to keep it also since long time), but if people buy, brand sells, so the only solution is to stop to buy.
I did it bc that's what i planned since a lot of years, if nobody can jump a gen, Nvidia will continue to sell at high price, all the way.

4000 is what i cal v1.0 , 2000 is first (no buy), it introduces RTX, 3000 good, 4000 FG ! = 0.1 / 0.5 / 1.0 (best value in RTX)

I mean Klem, you've seen me going on tirades against Ada Lovelace at length on the Special K Discord, even if done in a humorous manner, end of the day most of the guys there are enthusiasts as extreme as me, just with more blessed pockets and even more blessed countries of residence.

However, with a 4090 costing 14000 BRL/2650 USD here on average, that's a considerable chunk of my (fairly high for my country, mind you) yearly income at present, I just had to put my foot down and say no. They know it's too damn much too, most of the guys there purchased theirs on credit or made some sort of concession to purchase theirs, and that's something I am absolutely unwilling to do. I refuse to contract debt or temporarily lower my standard of living for a graphics card, especially when mine still runs almost every game on ultra settings with decent frame rates, and would be even better if Nvidia stopped lying to us, making up excuses and didn't gate DLSS Frame Generation behind the 40 series. (I blame AMD for being unable to keep up.)

Nvidia should be ashamed.

They're trying to normalize the new high prices. Vote with your wallet

I hope more people do but Ada is selling well. The days owning a flagship GPU to me may be coming to an end.

 

[Klemc]

Nvidia should be ashamed.

Hey hello,

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more than ashamed, and far more, also fighted by laws, since all over the world people finally reacted to earth beeing poluated two years ago and what Nvidia sells ?... 300-600 watts GPUs ! Inel too is bypassing law with 300w CPUs.

And yes, RTX is good to do tests, not sure it's so good foor end user (12>60 FPS...), i never could see a difference, i tested few games having it, but it looks to do nothing so amazing, perhaps it needs 4k to be spotted and big screens IDK.

 

[Vayra86]

And yes, RTX is good to do tests, not sure it's so good foor end user (12>60 FPS...), i never could see a difference, i tested few games having it, but it looks to do nothing so amazing, perhaps it needs 4k to be spotted and big screens IDK.

Its only amazing in a world of buyer's remorse and overinflated pixel peering e-peeners. Let's just be honest. A game is meant to be played, not watched. Even Nvidia agrees

I'm honestly even struggling to see the point of a new GPU altogether, when I run stuff on my current one and compare I'm honestly not having any semblance of FOMO for any new feature. Just FPS, really, and that's fixable by nudging settings one click lower... and game still looks fine.

I'm running Elden Ring now at 100 FPS fixed on max settings at 2560x1440. Game looks good enough and plays well... I mean seriously I just don't get how newer games can tank the FPS for what they show you, that much, even sans RT. That, along with graphics cards developments since Turing pushes me into believing its one massive clusterfuck of commercial nonsense led by Nvidia's bags of money to push RT forward - a fake reality, a marketing reality, while the market barely catches up. I'm not paying huge money to live in a marketing dream, but to each their own. And this whole move was clear from the get-go, pre-Turing launch.

 

[Klemc]

A game is meant to be played, not watched. Even Nvidia agrees

Except 2D Pixel Arts, modern ones are so beautifull

 

[N3M3515]

They're trying to normalize the new high prices. Vote with your wallet

I already see the future rtx 5080 at $1300, what a steal!! we just increased $100!!
Because they did it with the 20x0 series, they hiked prices and in the next gen, they maintained them, suddenly 30x0 series was such a great deal!

 

[Vayra86]

Except 2D Pixel Arts, modern ones are so beautifull

Sorry what?

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[Zer0code]

750$ will translate to ~1200$ at my home country after tax.
A bit steep for a mid-range GPU so another easy skip.
Good luck all.

In my country it will cost at least 1000 bucks too. Nvidia just went crazy.

 

[wheresmycar]

Its quite precisely 3x faster, never 4x

yep, i just checked some benchies - about 3x faster.

So quick, poor math says you gained 50% frames/dollar over the course of three whoppin generations. Except you did pay twice the entry fee to get there. Could have bought 2 generational x70s in a normal world.

oh no, i didn't buy one! I wouldn't touch that card or any of the 40-series calamities with a 4070-foot pole

Interestingly:
1070 MSRP = 379
4070ti MSRP = 799

Three generations worth and more than doubled in price for x3 perf. So quick, poor math says you gained 50% frames/dollar over the course of three whoppin generations.

To think of it, had Nvidia maintained the mid-tier performance pricing or an increase of ~$100 for the generational climb/features i would have bagged one. $800 the 4070 TI smells like green poop