Intel 14th Gen Core Lineup Confirmed to be Meteor Lake CPU Range

[T0@st]

The Meteor Lake codename has been linked to the fourteenth generation of Intel's Core lineup for a while, following several significant leaks in 2022 and 2023. According to newly unearthed internal documentation and benchmark data, Intel has confirmed that the Meteor Lake family of CPUs will form its upcoming 14th Gen Core lineup - with laptop variations expected to arrive mid-2023 and heavily speculated desktop units in the fourth quarter, although a middle of the year refresh of Raptor Lake could push the entire Meteor Lake range's release window into 2024.

Meteor Lake is anticipated to be Intel's debuting of a "disaggregated" design - the most advanced laptop CPU variant features a top-of-the-line 6P+8E core configuration. Intel is solely responsible for fabrication of an IOE (I/O) tile (the company's own term for a chiplet) with PCIe 5.0 plus Thunderbolt 4, as well as an SoC tile. The GPU part of the design is rumored to be based on their own Arc Alchemist architecture, and TSMC has been contracted to manufacture this graphics tile - not a big surprise since Intel has also placed substantial manufacturing orders for discrete Arc cards with the Taiwanese foundry.



An internal document (published by Intel) was leaked on Twitter over the past weekend, and it lists hardware support for Intel Media SDK and oneVPL (Video Processing Library) GPU runtimes. On this chart the "Future: 14th Generation Intel Core" series is indicated as being part of the "MTL/Meteor Lake" category. "RPL/Raptor Lake" stays in the 13th Generation Intel Core lineup according to this information - industry insiders have speculated that a refresh of Raptor Lake would result in a jump into Intel's 14th generation.

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[agent_x007]

I like how they don't count X99/X299 as platforms (first slide), which means they are clearly not supported (/s)
(HSW-E = 5-th gen, BD-E = 6-th gen and SKL-X = 7/8/9/10-th gen)

 

[SAINT ENZO]

This sounds like its going to be great,
If i understand this correctly, its confirmed that 14th Gen intel processors will be Meteor Lake, 5nm/6nm process
11th gen intel was 14nm
12th gen intel was 10nm
This next generation finna be Fast AF Boii

 

[bobbybluz]

I like how they don't count X99/X299 as platforms (first slide), which means they are clearly not supported (/s)
(HSW-E = 5-th gen, BD-E = 6-th gen and SKL-X = 7/8/9/10-th gen)

Those of us using those platforms are the Rodney Dangerfield's of Intel platforms; We get no respect.

 

[ZoneDymo]

This sounds like its going to be great,
If i understand this correctly, its confirmed that 14th Gen intel processors will be Meteor Lake, 5nm/6nm process
11th gen intel was 14nm
12th gen intel was 10nm
This next generation finna be Fast AF Boii

Based solely on an nm shrink you think this is "finna be fast af" ?

 

[SAINT ENZO]

Based solely on an nm shrink you think this is "finna be fast af" ?

Yes.

 

[Luke357]

Those of us using those platforms are the Rodney Dangerfield's of Intel platforms; We get no respect.

Even the worthless Atom in my Surface gets more respect than HEDT.

 

[R0H1T]

This sounds like its going to be great,
If i understand this correctly, its confirmed that 14th Gen intel processors will be Meteor Lake, 5nm/6nm process
11th gen intel was 14nm
12th gen intel was 10nm
This next generation finna be Fast AF Boii

And be right on time ~ just 1.5 years late instead of two

 

[oxrufiioxo]

And be right on time ~ just 1.5 years late instead of two

It's sad when the leakers seem to be more accurate than intel slides at least when it comes to when their products are launching....

 

[Space Lynx]

14th gen in laptops this summer? holy shit. 13th gen in laptops just hit shelves like two months ago...

Hmm, I didn't think it would happen this fast... I might wait it out before I buy my new work laptop, wouldn't mind having a 14th gen work laptop, I want it to last me like ten years since its just for work.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

14th gen in laptops this summer? holy shit. 13th gen in laptops just hit shelves like two months ago...

Hmm, I didn't think it would happen this fast... I might wait it out before I buy my new work laptop, wouldn't mind having a 14th gen work laptop, I want it to last me like ten years since its just for work.

eh 10 years is asking a lot for a laptop even a high ish end one I would say 5-6 years is doable..... I guess if you keep it really lean it has a decent amount of ram and mostly use it for web browsing maybe....

 

[Dr. Dro]

Those of us using those platforms are the Rodney Dangerfield's of Intel platforms; We get no respect.

I'd argue that all respect is there, given these platforms' advanced age (especially regarding the almost 10-year-old X99 platform) and that microcode updates are still developed for these platforms and updated regularly. Intel releases the microcode to Microsoft and it's transparently updated to a version newer than the one present on your motherboard's BIOS when Windows loads, unless you've deleted mcupdate_GenuineIntel.dll from your Windows system32 folder. It's also hot patched on Linux, though I don't know the specifics, I presume it's built into the kernel or included as a system driver somehow.

Hell, I have an Intel-branded LGA1156 server board here for the Lynnfield platform (3420 chipset, based on P55) and its last BIOS update was in 2018, practically 10 years later, that's with all the turmoil and Intel's withdrawal from the motherboard market. Has any consumer motherboard, Intel or AMD-based, had their BIOS maintained for more than nine years?

I like how they don't count X99/X299 as platforms (first slide), which means they are clearly not supported (/s)
(HSW-E = 5-th gen, BD-E = 6-th gen and SKL-X = 7/8/9/10-th gen)

Haswell-E is 4th gen and Broadwell-E is 5th gen (despite the -5000 and -6000 nomenclature for these chips), and neither design has integrated graphics, which the media SDK seems to entirely rely upon. That's why only the mainstream desktop Core and Xeon E3 segments are serviced, they do have an iGPU.

 

[freeagent]

So this is an LGA1700 part?

It will work on B660?

 

[oxrufiioxo]

So this is an LGA1700 part?

It will work on B660?

I'd say hell would freeze over prior to intel supporting a socket for for 3 generations.... The fact that LGA 1700 seems to be getting 2.5 with the RL refresh is already kinda surprising.

 

[freeagent]

I'd say hell would freeze over prior to intel supporting a socket for for 3 generations.... The fact that LGA 1700 seems to be getting 2.5 with the RL refresh is already kinda surprising.

LGA775 will never happen again

 

[oxrufiioxo]

LGA775 will never happen again

Didn't that last like 7 years lol. To be fair the only CPUs it supported that I would consider good were the Core 2 duo and quad..... My last prebuilt in the late 00s had a pos LGA775 mobo

 

[tussinman]

So this is an LGA1700 part?

It will work on B660?

No it will be a new socket.

The purpose of this leak is basically just to confirm that even if their is a raptor lake refresh (which is the current heavy rumor) it won't carry the 14th gen name.

 

[Crackong]

Let's going backwards to have max 6 P -cores....yikes

 

[A&P211]

14th gen in laptops this summer? holy shit. 13th gen in laptops just hit shelves like two months ago...

Hmm, I didn't think it would happen this fast... I might wait it out before I buy my new work laptop, wouldn't mind having a 14th gen work laptop, I want it to last me like ten years since its just for work.

The 11th gen in laptops only had a brief history of maybe 6months then 12th gen came out.

 

[bobbybluz]

Allegedly 14th gen will be called LGA 1800 but will be the same dimensions hardware-wise as LGA 1700 so existing coolers will fit.

 

[AusWolf]

If the iGPU is based on Alchemist that is based on Xe, does that mean there's no improvement there since 11th gen, but we're using a different codename to make it look like there is?

 

[BArms]

I predict the 15th Gen chips will have the CPU and GPU tiles will be less than 5% of the die space after the SOC tile gives birth to it's SOC litter of SOC babies.

 

[AusWolf]

I predict the 15th Gen chips will have the CPU and GPU tiles will be less than 5% of the die space after the SOC tile gives birth to it's SOC litter of SOC babies.

Well, if you want a CPU with your enormous SoC tile, that'll cost you some money.

I wonder when we're gonna move the SoC parts outside the CPU package and call it a north bridge again.

 

[Minus Infinity]

So this is an LGA1700 part?

It will work on B660?

No and no.

 

[hs4]

Well, if you want a CPU with your enormous SoC tile, that'll cost you some money.

I wonder when we're gonna move the SoC parts outside the CPU package and call it a north bridge again.

That's not likely to happen. Rather, like Apple, more chips, such as memory, will be unified into the CPU package.
The latest bus standards have so much wiring that if the North Bridge were separated now, the PCB would not fit into the laptop chassis.

If the iGPU is based on Alchemist that is based on Xe, does that mean there's no improvement there since 11th gen, but we're using a different codename to make it look like there is?

The iGPUs up to the 13th gen are DG1 (Xe-LP) and Meteor lake is DG2 (Xe-LPG) based. mTL GT2 is basically Arc A370M with the tensor core (XMX) removed, and according to Techpowerup's GPU database, is twice as powerful as the 13 th gen iGPUs.

Intel Iris Xe Graphics 96EU Mobile
Pixel Rate: 33.60 GPixel/s
Texture Rate: 67.20 GTexel/s

Intel Arc A370M
Pixel Rate: 65.60 GPixel/s
Texture Rate: 131.2 GTexel/s

I predict the 15th Gen chips will have the CPU and GPU tiles will be less than 5% of the die space after the SOC tile gives birth to it's SOC litter of SOC babies.

SoC tiles include many PHYs such as media unslice. It will not be possible to make it too small there because of the need to physically output large voltages and currents.

Of course, if our bodies shrink to match the CPU tiles, the SoC tiles will also be smaller because the cable lengths will be shorter and can be driven by smaller currents and voltages.