NVIDIA Could be Reducing RTX 4070 GPU Production, Palit Card Price Cut Reported in UK

[Papusan]

Just read an article stating that the 4070 gets smacked by the 6800xt in all but rt/dlss3 capable titles. That says everything I need to know about this heap. I'll keep buying 6 series cards for my client builds. 99% of which don't have any interest in $1000 halo cards. Sucks for me but whaddya do? I sure as hell ain't droppin a grand+ on a 4090.
Here's the article if you're interested...

GeForce RTX 4070 vs. RTX 3080 vs. Radeon RX 6800 XT: Which to buy?

The new GeForce RTX 4070 is here, offering scant value over last generation's RTX 3080 and Radeon RX 6800 XT. Which graphics card should you buy? It depends on what you play.

www.pcworld.com

You don't even get the 4080 for that price

 

[konga]

Just read an article stating that the 4070 gets smacked by the 6800xt in all but rt/dlss3 capable titles. That says everything I need to know about this heap. I'll keep buying 6 series cards for my client builds. 99% of which don't have any interest in $1000 halo cards. Sucks for me but whaddya do? I sure as hell ain't droppin a grand+ on a 4090.
Here's the article if you're interested...

GeForce RTX 4070 vs. RTX 3080 vs. Radeon RX 6800 XT: Which to buy?

The new GeForce RTX 4070 is here, offering scant value over last generation's RTX 3080 and Radeon RX 6800 XT. Which graphics card should you buy? It depends on what you play.

www.pcworld.com

A single article will never be "all you need to know." Almost all the games tested here typically favor AMD GPUs, so the results are skewed. Meanwhile, TPU's review with 25 games tested show it as a tie between the two rather than a smackdown for the 6800 XT. Similar story in many other reviews.

 

[AnarchoPrimitiv]

Wow....look at the result even after withholding your consumption for just a brief amount of time....can you imagine what concessions Nvidia would be forced to make to consumers if even just a fraction of the potential customers withheld their purchases for an entire generation?

Meanwhile AMD is content to continue selling last-gen cards. What a shame. Here’s to, um, Intel.

generations are just a name and for all intents and purposes irrelevant to most people and applications....there's not many features that RDNA2 lacks compared to RDNA3, so all that should really matter to most consumers is if the price to performance is correct for them....heck, I wouldn't care if the videocard just housed a hamster on a wheel, as long as it provided the performance I felt warranted by its respective price point.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Well NV isn't wrong when they said people buy "ti"
Maybe just leave off the generic and just troll the "ti" part and be done with it NV save people decision time

 

[Fluffmeister]

Selling great at Mindfactory though!

The lesson... ignore Mindfactory

 

[AnarchoPrimitiv]

Oh, Jensen. You've strangled the golden goose to within an inch of its life. Imagine having that lucrative deal where you fleece companies to sell your products for you at next to no margins for them and all the money for you and you're like, "No. I want even more money than that. Push every die up a segment and raise prices up a segment, too. They'll pay it!"

If Lisa wasn't asleep at the wheel (or price fixing with him?), AMD would be capitalizing. Instead, Lisa and Jensen seem content with the status quo even when cards aren't selling. What a weird business model they've decided upon.

Publicly traded companies are pretty much beholden to their share holders, and the CEO has very little tangible power with respect to unilateral, sweeping changes of policy and direction, especially if it poorly effects stock price and profit margin....remember, AMD is not in the business of making CPUs and GPUs, they're in the business of generating profit, and it just so happens that designing and selling computer hardware achieve that end. Instead of saying Lisa is content with the status quo, it'd be more correct to state that the shareholders are content with the status quo, because the overwhelming majority of them probably have no personal interest or attachment to PC hardware as they probably view the products AMD sells as widgets that generate a profit.

 

[maxfly]

A single article will never be "all you need to know." Almost all the games tested here typically favor AMD GPUs, so the results are skewed. Meanwhile, TPU's review with 25 games tested show it as a tie between the two rather than a smackdown for the 6800 XT. Similar story in many other reviews.

Skewed...right. A tie...right. We're talking last gen vs current. There's all the skew I need to know.

The 4070 should be crushing the 6800xt, period end of story.

 

[renz496]

When will these AIBs realize that doing business with Nvidia is a loss loss relationship. eVGA was able to figure it out. Why not the rest?

Because nvidia still end up selling over 80% of discrete gpu on the planet. Also other AIB like Asus, MSI, Gigabyte have OEM business. Having nvidia gpu inside their laptop or prebuilt will help them selling those unit.

 

[64K]

I remember Huang saying last year that they planned to cut back production.

A fundamental change is taking place with a lot of gamers. Due to the economic conditions and uncertainty of the future gamers are not upgrading so readily. They look at what they have and accept that it's enough for now.

 

[Minus Infinity]

The trouble they have is there are still boatloads of unsold Ampere cards. This is why neither AMD and Nvidia were in any rush to release mide-tier cards, with so many unsold Ampere's and RDNA2 cards around and no crypto scum to sell them to.

4070 price is what the Ti version should be, 4070 $499, 4060 Ti $379, 4080 $899.

If RDNA 4 is no dearer than current prices, I'll jump on that to replace my 6800XT. Not a snowball's chance in hell Blackwell won't see prices rises due to the massive cost of TSMC's N3 wafers. AMD smartly using N4P for RDNA4.

 

[wolf]

A fair few here and all across the internet have a really unhealthy obsession with the CEO's of these companies, the fantasies people come up with about what they say and do are both entertaining and frightening. I suppose it's easier to vilify/praise a person than a company for their collective decisions.

Having said that, I'm glad prices are trending down, capitalist companies would be foolish to sell products for less than what people expect to pay, so they go higher where possible and gradually pull back till the balance is struck.

 

[Chaitanya]

Smaller partners here like Zotac or PNY probably feel stuck.
If most of your business and brand awareness pertains to Nvidia GPUs, simply walking away isn't easy.

That said EVGA was in a better position to do just that, and felt confident enough in themselves to continue expansion into other segments.

ASUS, Gigabyte and MSI...very different story.
Deep pockets, established branding in other segments and they have AMD cards to boot.

The margins may suck right now, but they aren't being forced into anything yet. If there's profit to be had they'll stick around.

PNY is not a small partner, their consumer oriented side surely is small but their workstation GPUs is where they used to be sole partners for nVidia GPUs(these days like FE cards there seem to be 1st party nVidia SKUs).

 

[Deleted member 229121]

True, I was just referring to the consumer side of things and diversity within that market, should have specified.

 

[Dirt Chip]

Every new 4xxx SKU just make the 4090 an even better option and for most, an imaginary option.

 

[80251]

Oh, Jensen. You've strangled the golden goose to within an inch of its life. Imagine having that lucrative deal where you fleece companies to sell your products for you at next to no margins for them and all the money for you and you're like, "No. I want even more money than that. Push every die up a segment and raise prices up a segment, too. They'll pay it!"

If Lisa wasn't asleep at the wheel (or price fixing with him?), AMD would be capitalizing. Instead, Lisa and Jensen seem content with the status quo even when cards aren't selling. What a weird business model they've decided upon.

I've read Lisa and Jensen are related!

 

[taka]

I've read Lisa and Jensen are related!

They are both from the same island, and if you give enough time for an island population they all become related at the end.

 

[john_]

Yep. I'm content just continuing to buy used gear. Not paying NVidia's ridiculous prices.

You pay them indirectly, by giving money for their old card to someone who intents to take that money and use it to buy a new Nvidia card.

 

[Rais]

I cannot repeat that enough...DON'T BUY.

They need our money but we don't need graphic cards.

 

[Deleted member 185088]

Given the tiny GPU, narrow memory bandwidth and small PCB, this card shouldn't be priced that much, make it 500€ real price with tax and it'd make more sense.

 

[AnotherReader]

A fair few here and all across the internet have a really unhealthy obsession with the CEO's of these companies, the fantasies people come up with about what they say and do are both entertaining and frightening. I suppose it's easier to vilify/praise a person than a company for their collective decisions.

While putting all the blame on the CEO might be unfair, you're naive if you believe that a CEO's influence is no greater than your typical middle manager. Moreover, Jensen Huang isn't you average, garden variety CEO. He's also the cofounder of Nvidia. Shareholders have a great deal of influence, but with a rockstar CEO like Jensen, Elon or Steve Jobs, the shareholders typically just go along with whatever they want. With that being said, like any large bureaucracy, large corporations typically do not run on one person's whims alone.

They are both from the same island, and if you give enough time for an island population they all become related at the end.

That island's population is greater than that of Netherlands and Denmark combined.

 

[80251]

Being a CEO and co-founder didn't help Wozniak much (the man who actually designed the original Apple), he was still given the boot.

 

[AnotherReader]

Being a CEO and co-founder didn't help Wozniak much (the man who actually designed the original Apple), he was still given the boot.

Of course, there are limits to your power if you aren't running a private, family run corporation. Still, being a CEO with a proven record like Jen-Hsun, buys you a lot of leeway. Whatever else you might say about the man, Nvidia has only gone in one direction for almost all of its history, and that's up.

 

[80251]

Did you know Apple was sued over the choice of name by their company? Guess which company sued them?

 

[AnotherReader]

Did you know Apple was sued over the choice of name by their company? Guess which company sued them?

Thanks, I learned something new. Apple Corps, founded by the Beatles, sued Apple multiple times over a period of three decades.

 

[mechtech]

hmmmm I might be enticed to buy one for say $500 CAD.................more than that, no dice.

Sorry