• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

Modded NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 With 16 GB of VRAM Shows Impressive Performance Uplift

GFreeman

News Editor
Staff member
Joined
Mar 6, 2023
Messages
1,588 (2.39/day)
A memory mod for the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 that doubles the amount of VRAM showed some impressive performance gains, especially in the most recent games. While the mod was more complicated than earlier ones, since it required some additional PCB soldering, the one tested game shows incredible performance boost, especially in the 1%, 0.1% lows, and the average frame rate.

Modding the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 to 16 GB VRAM is not a bad idea, since NVIDIA already planned a similar card (RTX 3070 Ti 16 GB), but eventually cancelled it. With today games using more than 8 GB of VRAM, it means that some RTX 30 series graphics card can struggle with pushing playable FPS. The modder benchmarked the new Resident Evil 4 at very high settings, showing that those additional 8 GB of VRAM is the difference between stuttering and smooth gameplay.



As said, the recent mod is a bit more complicated than the earlier one done on some earlier graphics cards, as some resistors needed to be grounded in order to support higher-capacity memory ICs, and the modded graphics card had to be set to high-performance mode in the NVIDIA Control Panel, in order to fix flickering.

AMD marketing has recently called out NVIDIA and pulled the VRAM card, but with NVIDIA launching the GeForce RTX 4070 with 12 GB of VRAM, it appears this won't change anytime soon. These mods show that there is definitely the need for more VRAM, at least in some games.


View at TechPowerUp Main Site | Source
 
Joined
Jan 29, 2012
Messages
6,881 (1.46/day)
Location
Florida
System Name natr0n-PC
Processor Ryzen 5950x-5600x | 9600k
Motherboard B450 AORUS M | Z390 UD
Cooling EK AIO 360 - 6 fan action | AIO
Memory Patriot - Viper Steel DDR4 (B-Die)(4x8GB) | Samsung DDR4 (4x8GB)
Video Card(s) EVGA 3070ti FTW
Storage Various
Display(s) Pixio PX279 Prime
Case Thermaltake Level 20 VT | Black bench
Audio Device(s) LOXJIE D10 + Kinter Amp + 6 Bookshelf Speakers Sony+JVC+Sony
Power Supply Super Flower Leadex III ARGB 80+ Gold 650W | EVGA 700 Gold
Software XP/7/8.1/10
Benchmark Scores http://valid.x86.fr/79kuh6
I would do this if I had the tools.
 
Joined
Feb 11, 2009
Messages
5,578 (0.96/day)
System Name Cyberline
Processor Intel Core i7 2600k -> 12600k
Motherboard Asus P8P67 LE Rev 3.0 -> Gigabyte Z690 Auros Elite DDR4
Cooling Tuniq Tower 120 -> Custom Watercoolingloop
Memory Corsair (4x2) 8gb 1600mhz -> Crucial (8x2) 16gb 3600mhz
Video Card(s) AMD RX480 -> RX7800XT
Storage Samsung 750 Evo 250gb SSD + WD 1tb x 2 + WD 2tb -> 2tb MVMe SSD
Display(s) Philips 32inch LPF5605H (television) -> Dell S3220DGF
Case antec 600 -> Thermaltake Tenor HTCP case
Audio Device(s) Focusrite 2i4 (USB)
Power Supply Seasonic 620watt 80+ Platinum
Mouse Elecom EX-G
Keyboard Rapoo V700
Software Windows 10 Pro 64bit
Joined
Jul 16, 2014
Messages
8,220 (2.15/day)
Location
SE Michigan
System Name Dumbass
Processor AMD Ryzen 7800X3D
Motherboard ASUS TUF gaming B650
Cooling Artic Liquid Freezer 2 - 420mm
Memory G.Skill Sniper 32gb DDR5 6000
Video Card(s) GreenTeam 4070 ti super 16gb
Storage Samsung EVO 500gb & 1Tb, 2tb HDD, 500gb WD Black
Display(s) 1x Nixeus NX_EDG27, 2x Dell S2440L (16:9)
Case Phanteks Enthoo Primo w/8 140mm SP Fans
Audio Device(s) onboard (realtek?) - SPKRS:Logitech Z623 200w 2.1
Power Supply Corsair HX1000i
Mouse Steeseries Esports Wireless
Keyboard Corsair K100
Software windows 10 H
Benchmark Scores https://i.imgur.com/aoz3vWY.jpg?2
Joined
Sep 17, 2014
Messages
22,738 (6.05/day)
Location
The Washing Machine
System Name Tiny the White Yeti
Processor 7800X3D
Motherboard MSI MAG Mortar b650m wifi
Cooling CPU: Thermalright Peerless Assassin / Case: Phanteks T30-120 x3
Memory 32GB Corsair Vengeance 30CL6000
Video Card(s) ASRock RX7900XT Phantom Gaming
Storage Lexar NM790 4TB + Samsung 850 EVO 1TB + Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial BX100 250GB
Display(s) Gigabyte G34QWC (3440x1440)
Case Lian Li A3 mATX White
Audio Device(s) Harman Kardon AVR137 + 2.1
Power Supply EVGA Supernova G2 750W
Mouse Steelseries Aerox 5
Keyboard Lenovo Thinkpad Trackpoint II
VR HMD HD 420 - Green Edition ;)
Software W11 IoT Enterprise LTSC
Benchmark Scores Over 9000

Space Lynx

Astronaut
Joined
Oct 17, 2014
Messages
17,444 (4.68/day)
Location
Kepler-186f
Processor 7800X3D -25 all core
Motherboard B650 Steel Legend
Cooling Frost Commander 140
Video Card(s) Merc 310 7900 XT @3100 core -.75v
Display(s) Agon 27" QD-OLED Glossy 240hz 1440p
Case NZXT H710 (Red/Black)
Audio Device(s) Asgard 2, Modi 3, HD58X
Power Supply Corsair RM850x Gold
Joined
Jan 17, 2023
Messages
28 (0.04/day)
Processor Ryzen 5 4600G
Motherboard Gigabyte B450M DS3H
Cooling AMD Stock Cooler
Memory 3200Mhz CL16-20-20-40 memory
Video Card(s) ASRock Challenger RX 6600
Storage 1TB WD SN570 NVME SSD and 2TB Seagate 7200RPM HDD
Software Windows 11 Pro
This MAGIC trick will make your 3070 not obsolete!
 
Joined
May 17, 2021
Messages
3,082 (2.33/day)
Processor Ryzen 5 5700x
Motherboard B550 Elite
Cooling Thermalright Perless Assassin 120 SE
Memory 32GB Fury Beast DDR4 3200Mhz
Video Card(s) Gigabyte 3060 ti gaming oc pro
Storage Samsung 970 Evo 1TB, WD SN850x 1TB, plus some random HDDs
Display(s) LG 27gp850 1440p 165Hz 27''
Case Lian Li Lancool II performance
Power Supply MSI 750w
Mouse G502
There was a local guy that modded xbox 360, and nintendo consoles, and it involved soldering in some cases. I guess a local industry could flourish from this. Those indian stores that repair phones and are everywhere could specialise in this :D
 
Joined
Sep 26, 2022
Messages
236 (0.29/day)
Location
Portugal
System Name Main
Processor 5700X
Motherboard MSI B450M Mortar
Cooling Corsair H80i v2
Memory G.SKILL Ripjaws V 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4-3600MHz CL16
Video Card(s) MSI RTX 3060 Ti VENTUS 2X OC 8GB GDDR6X
Display(s) LG 32GK850G
Case NOX HUMMER ZN
Power Supply Seasonic GX-750
Might be a bit too late, but I would have loved if EVGA gave a last "middle finger" to Nvidia and launched a 16gb 3070/ti
 
Joined
Dec 26, 2006
Messages
3,870 (0.59/day)
Location
Northern Ontario Canada
Processor Ryzen 5700x
Motherboard Gigabyte X570S Aero G R1.1 BiosF5g
Cooling Noctua NH-C12P SE14 w/ NF-A15 HS-PWM Fan 1500rpm
Memory Micron DDR4-3200 2x32GB D.S. D.R. (CT2K32G4DFD832A)
Video Card(s) AMD RX 6800 - Asus Tuf
Storage Kingston KC3000 1TB & 2TB & 4TB Corsair MP600 Pro LPX
Display(s) LG 27UL550-W (27" 4k)
Case Be Quiet Pure Base 600 (no window)
Audio Device(s) Realtek ALC1220-VB
Power Supply SuperFlower Leadex V Gold Pro 850W ATX Ver2.52
Mouse Mionix Naos Pro
Keyboard Corsair Strafe with browns
Software W10 22H2 Pro x64
I wish they had 4 so-dimm slots around the gpu, so you could change ram quantity and speeds........if you so desired............just like a cpu............
 
Joined
Jun 16, 2019
Messages
387 (0.19/day)
System Name Cyberdyne Systems Core
Processor AMD Sceptre 9 3950x Quantum neural processor (384 nodes)
Motherboard Cyberdyne X1470
Memory 128TB QRAM
Video Card(s) CDS Render Accelerator 4TB
Storage SK 16EB NVMe PCI-E 9.0 x8
Display(s) LG C19 3D Environment Projection System
Power Supply Compact Fusion Cell
Software Skysoft Skynet
I wish they had 4 so-dimm slots around the gpu, so you could change ram quantity and speeds........if you so desired............just like a cpu............
Good luck finding GDDR6 SODIMMs
 
Joined
Mar 4, 2022
Messages
31 (0.03/day)
Why not just power shunt an RTX A4000???
That seams unnecessary...

In any case yes, 8GB are not enough and has been for 3 years at least, that's why I sold my 3070 after 4 months post launch.
 
Joined
Dec 26, 2006
Messages
3,870 (0.59/day)
Location
Northern Ontario Canada
Processor Ryzen 5700x
Motherboard Gigabyte X570S Aero G R1.1 BiosF5g
Cooling Noctua NH-C12P SE14 w/ NF-A15 HS-PWM Fan 1500rpm
Memory Micron DDR4-3200 2x32GB D.S. D.R. (CT2K32G4DFD832A)
Video Card(s) AMD RX 6800 - Asus Tuf
Storage Kingston KC3000 1TB & 2TB & 4TB Corsair MP600 Pro LPX
Display(s) LG 27UL550-W (27" 4k)
Case Be Quiet Pure Base 600 (no window)
Audio Device(s) Realtek ALC1220-VB
Power Supply SuperFlower Leadex V Gold Pro 850W ATX Ver2.52
Mouse Mionix Naos Pro
Keyboard Corsair Strafe with browns
Software W10 22H2 Pro x64
Joined
Mar 4, 2022
Messages
31 (0.03/day)
I wish they had 4 so-dimm slots around the gpu, so you could change ram quantity and speeds........if you so desired............just like a cpu............
That will just increase latency and complexity for no real reason.
An easy solution is just to give video cards enough Vram, 2GB GDDR6 modules are like $8-15 each, $18-25 for GDDR6X... Nvidia won't go bankrupt for that.
The easiest solution would have been buy an RX 6800 for more performance and less money tho.
Lets see how many will make the same mistake with a 4070/4070Ti...

There was a local guy that modded xbox 360, and nintendo consoles, and it involved soldering in some cases. I guess a local industry could flourish from this. Those indian stores that repair phones and are everywhere could specialise in this :D
Or you could just buy an AMD graphic card... I know, sound crazy, right?
 
Joined
Dec 26, 2006
Messages
3,870 (0.59/day)
Location
Northern Ontario Canada
Processor Ryzen 5700x
Motherboard Gigabyte X570S Aero G R1.1 BiosF5g
Cooling Noctua NH-C12P SE14 w/ NF-A15 HS-PWM Fan 1500rpm
Memory Micron DDR4-3200 2x32GB D.S. D.R. (CT2K32G4DFD832A)
Video Card(s) AMD RX 6800 - Asus Tuf
Storage Kingston KC3000 1TB & 2TB & 4TB Corsair MP600 Pro LPX
Display(s) LG 27UL550-W (27" 4k)
Case Be Quiet Pure Base 600 (no window)
Audio Device(s) Realtek ALC1220-VB
Power Supply SuperFlower Leadex V Gold Pro 850W ATX Ver2.52
Mouse Mionix Naos Pro
Keyboard Corsair Strafe with browns
Software W10 22H2 Pro x64
That will just increase latency and complexity for no real reason.
An easy solution is just to give video cards enough Vram, 2GB GDDR6 modules are like $8-15 each, $18-25 for GDDR6X... Nvidia won't go bankrupt for that.
The easiest solution would have been buy an RX 6800 for more performance and less money tho.
Lets see how many will make the same mistake with a 4070/4070Ti...
of course, but it still be nice to have an option like that.............
 
Joined
May 17, 2021
Messages
3,082 (2.33/day)
Processor Ryzen 5 5700x
Motherboard B550 Elite
Cooling Thermalright Perless Assassin 120 SE
Memory 32GB Fury Beast DDR4 3200Mhz
Video Card(s) Gigabyte 3060 ti gaming oc pro
Storage Samsung 970 Evo 1TB, WD SN850x 1TB, plus some random HDDs
Display(s) LG 27gp850 1440p 165Hz 27''
Case Lian Li Lancool II performance
Power Supply MSI 750w
Mouse G502
Or you could just buy an AMD graphic card... I know, sound crazy, right?

Buying any card, amd or nvidia at these prices doesn't sound crazy, it's actually crazy.
Anyway more thinking of the ones that already have one.
 
Joined
Mar 16, 2017
Messages
2,170 (0.76/day)
Location
Tanagra
System Name Budget Box
Processor Xeon E5-2667v2
Motherboard ASUS P9X79 Pro
Cooling Some cheap tower cooler, I dunno
Memory 32GB 1866-DDR3 ECC
Video Card(s) XFX RX 5600XT
Storage WD NVME 1GB
Display(s) ASUS Pro Art 27"
Case Antec P7 Neo
planned obsolescence
It really does seem so. Or maybe planned gimping to make the upsell more appealing. Apple does the same thing. Base Macs have 8GB RAM, and 16GB is a big upsell. There’s no reason they can’t default to 16GB.
 

Space Lynx

Astronaut
Joined
Oct 17, 2014
Messages
17,444 (4.68/day)
Location
Kepler-186f
Processor 7800X3D -25 all core
Motherboard B650 Steel Legend
Cooling Frost Commander 140
Video Card(s) Merc 310 7900 XT @3100 core -.75v
Display(s) Agon 27" QD-OLED Glossy 240hz 1440p
Case NZXT H710 (Red/Black)
Audio Device(s) Asgard 2, Modi 3, HD58X
Power Supply Corsair RM850x Gold
It really does seem so. Or maybe planned gimping to make the upsell more appealing. Apple does the same thing. Base Macs have 8GB RAM, and 16GB is a big upsell. There’s no reason they can’t default to 16GB.

Apple does it with storage and ram, and it does work sadly...
 
Joined
Dec 30, 2010
Messages
2,201 (0.43/day)
I always wondered what was possible if we where giving the option for faster ram. Both camps usually place what's available and call it a day. But over time chips, speeds and quantity do change and by replacing it you could be looking at 25% up to 40% of memory bandwidth boost.

The polaris 480/580 for example, does'nt scale beyond 1200Mhz - it's memory bandwidth constraint. Now if we found a way to upgrade it's ram and push for even faster speeds imagine how much performance would be uncorked from such a chip. Replacing memory on boards is'nt old; it happened with even SIMM's which where single sided 2MB large; and one just figured it out to solder another set at the back side of the SIMM and suddenly have 4MB per stick.
 

Space Lynx

Astronaut
Joined
Oct 17, 2014
Messages
17,444 (4.68/day)
Location
Kepler-186f
Processor 7800X3D -25 all core
Motherboard B650 Steel Legend
Cooling Frost Commander 140
Video Card(s) Merc 310 7900 XT @3100 core -.75v
Display(s) Agon 27" QD-OLED Glossy 240hz 1440p
Case NZXT H710 (Red/Black)
Audio Device(s) Asgard 2, Modi 3, HD58X
Power Supply Corsair RM850x Gold
I always wondered what was possible if we where giving the option for faster ram. Both camps usually place what's available and call it a day. But over time chips, speeds and quantity do change and by replacing it you could be looking at 25% up to 40% of memory bandwidth boost.

The polaris 480/580 for example, does'nt scale beyond 1200Mhz - it's memory bandwidth constraint. Now if we found a way to upgrade it's ram and push for even faster speeds imagine how much performance would be uncorked from such a chip. Replacing memory on boards is'nt old; it happened with even SIMM's which where single sided 2MB large; and one just figured it out to solder another set at the back side of the SIMM and suddenly have 4MB per stick.

I think there is a definite limit to this concept, and I think you would hit that limit by testing this on a 580, maybe very specfific games like Hogwarts Legacy might run a little better at 1080p? That's about all you would see I think. Just a guess though, its a good question for sure...
 
Joined
Dec 30, 2010
Messages
2,201 (0.43/day)
Some polaris cards can do beyond 1633Mhz core. But it's obsolete since it won't really scale beyond 1200Mhz because it's memory bandwidth capped.
 
Joined
Apr 6, 2021
Messages
1,131 (0.83/day)
Location
Bavaria ⌬ Germany
System Name ✨ Lenovo M700 [Tiny]
Cooling ⚠️ 78,08% N² ⌬ 20,95% O² ⌬ 0,93% Ar ⌬ 0,04% CO²
Audio Device(s) ◐◑ AKG K702 ⌬ FiiO E10K Olympus 2
Mouse ✌️ Corsair M65 RGB Elite [Black] ⌬ Endgame Gear MPC-890 Cordura
Keyboard ⌨ Turtle Beach Impact 500
Surprised this even worked. :eek: I mean, don't you need some custom BIOS for it to access the more RAM? Aren't they made "tamper proof" by Nvidia?

Where's my popcorn at

Want some?

 
Joined
Dec 31, 2020
Messages
1,010 (0.69/day)
Processor E5-4627 v4
Motherboard VEINEDA X99
Memory 32 GB
Video Card(s) 2080 Ti
Storage NE-512
Display(s) G27Q
Case DAOTECH X9
Power Supply SF450
There's no planned anything it's just what makes the most sense economically and the path they fell into like using G6X that is being too expensive and in short supply, g6 on the other hand is too slow. In case 3070 and 3080 were 16GB cards that would cause insane shortages and can't have a 3080 12 GB and at the same time 3070 with so much more Vram. In the case of 3060 apparently we can. GDDR7 doesn't allow for any deviations or room for possible scenarios at least as 12 GB 36Gbps is going to be insanely fast and insufficient. This means 5070 and 5080 are both 16GB with 1152 GBs wow. But without any clock speed advantage can't beat the 4090 which is so inefficient that's so disappointing, 16383 CU 176 Rops and barely as fast as a hypothetical 12288 CU 128 Rops or double the 4070 in performance.
 
Last edited:
Joined
Dec 25, 2020
Messages
7,090 (4.84/day)
Location
São Paulo, Brazil
System Name "Icy Resurrection"
Processor 13th Gen Intel Core i9-13900KS Special Edition
Motherboard ASUS ROG Maximus Z790 Apex Encore
Cooling Noctua NH-D15S upgraded with 2x NF-F12 iPPC-3000 fans and Honeywell PTM7950 TIM
Memory 32 GB G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB F5-6800J3445G16GX2-TZ5RK @ 7600 MT/s 36-44-44-52-96 1.4V
Video Card(s) ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX™ 4080 16GB GDDR6X White OC Edition
Storage 500 GB WD Black SN750 SE NVMe SSD + 4 TB WD Red Plus WD40EFPX HDD
Display(s) 55-inch LG G3 OLED
Case Pichau Mancer CV500 White Edition
Audio Device(s) Apple USB-C + Sony MDR-V7 headphones
Power Supply EVGA 1300 G2 1.3kW 80+ Gold
Mouse Microsoft Classic Intellimouse
Keyboard IBM Model M type 1391405 (distribución española)
Software Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC 24H2
Benchmark Scores I pulled a Qiqi~
Congratulations to the Brazilian people there sending well in international forums.

a99.jpg


I always wondered what was possible if we where giving the option for faster ram. Both camps usually place what's available and call it a day. But over time chips, speeds and quantity do change and by replacing it you could be looking at 25% up to 40% of memory bandwidth boost.

The polaris 480/580 for example, does'nt scale beyond 1200Mhz - it's memory bandwidth constraint. Now if we found a way to upgrade it's ram and push for even faster speeds imagine how much performance would be uncorked from such a chip. Replacing memory on boards is'nt old; it happened with even SIMM's which where single sided 2MB large; and one just figured it out to solder another set at the back side of the SIMM and suddenly have 4MB per stick.

Memory bandwidth per-se doesn't change unless frequencies change as well, what changes is the memory pressure factor. Even if 8 GB is adequate for any given workload, often assets have to be replaced in memory whereas they can simply remain resident if more was available to begin with. Similar phenomenon occurs with system RAM, and why 16 GB RAM systems have a rotten experience most of the time nowadays - and the worst of all, many people still running only 16 GB of RAM aren't even aware of it.

I think there is a definite limit to this concept, and I think you would hit that limit by testing this on a 580, maybe very specfific games like Hogwarts Legacy might run a little better at 1080p? That's about all you would see I think. Just a guess though, its a good question for sure...

Availability of larger GDDR5 modules may prove a challenge, though, and I'm not sure a clamshell configuration can even be installed in most RX 580 boards. In any case - the RX 580 is a very weak GPU by modern standards, its performance has always more or less been equivalent to that of the GTX 980, which is now 9 years old. It's probably not as relevant on such hardware to go beyond 8 GB, and your doubt could likely be serviced by a Barco MXRT-8700 - a custom WX 7100 variant with 16 GB, if you can find someone who owns one and is willing to test it for you.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Top