AMD Marketing Compares Last-Generation GPUs: Radeon RX 6800 vs NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070

[AleksandarK]

As we await the launch of AMD's remaining lineup of Radeon RX 7000 series GPUs like RX 7800 XT, RX 7700 XT, etc., AMD's marketing department is comparing last-generation products against each other. Sasa Marinkovic, Senior Director of Gaming Marketing at AMD, has posted a Tweet that initially claimed to compare AMD Radeon RX 6800 16 GB gaming performance versus NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 8 GB card in ray tracing and rasterization. However, the follow-up Tweet cleared that the chart is a comparison for rasterization performance only, and no ray tracing has been enabled. In an odd move to compare last-generation solutions, it is logical to do so from a price perspective, as both GPUs can be found at relatively the same price point at retailers like Newegg.

As far as the performance, the chart shows a comparison of the average FPS at 1440p. In titles like Valorant, Radeon RX 6800 can achieve 31% higher FPS. NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 3070 was only faster in Metro Exodus, GTA V, and Dota 2, while the remaining titles benefitted Radeon RX 6800. You can check the chart below.



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[Vayra86]

How about firing up your marketing spirits for that midrange RDNA3 instead, hm?

 

[Broken Processor]

Well I can understand because neither red or green has hit a home run with current gen for one reason or another so far. Might as well keep banging on about last gen gives marketing folks something to do.

 

[Recus]

AMDepression, I mean AMD marketing working in mysterious ways. At launch RX 6800 compete against RTX 3080, end of life RX 6800 vs RTX 3070, 10 years from now legacy review RX 6800 vs RTX 3050.

 

[Gungar]

AMDepression, I mean AMD marketing working in mysterious ways. At launch RX 6800 compete against RTX 3080, end of life RX 6800 vs RTX 3070, 10 years from now legacy review RX 6800 vs RTX 3050.

It competes with 3070 now because AMD lower their prices and not Nvidia. If they still lower their prices yes someday they can compare it to the 3050.

 

[ZoneDymo]

AMDepression, I mean AMD marketing working in mysterious ways. At launch RX 6800 compete against RTX 3080, end of life RX 6800 vs RTX 3070, 10 years from now legacy review RX 6800 vs RTX 3050.

Not really, the RX6800 was shown at launch against the RTX2080Ti, which is about 3070 level.

The RX6800XT was put against the 3080

 

[OverFlow]

AMD marketing is something else - it starts to push for 16GB and ridicule competitors with 8GB - right in time when about to release its 7xxx with 8GB

 

[Hyderz]

amd should have just refresh the 7700xt and 7800xt with 6800xt and 6900xt and call it a day

 

[W1zzard]

My data says 9%:

http://imgur.com/sE73aq0

Prices might be outdated though:

http://imgur.com/3AzM7yr

and with RT, it's basically the same difference from raster, just reversed:

http://imgur.com/LNfc94c

 

[bug]

My data says 9%:

http://imgur.com/sE73aq0

Prices might be outdated though:

http://imgur.com/3AzM7yr

and with RT, it's basically the same difference from raster, just reversed:

http://imgur.com/LNfc94c

So, with cherry-picked titles, they have 4% more to show after all this time. Plus, you don't draw 31% all the way to the end of the graph to make it look like 100%
Also, notice how they try to make it look like all that performance is because of more VRAM.

 

[Shou Miko]

Not really, the RX6800 was shown at launch against the RTX2080Ti, which is about 3070 level.

The RX6800XT was put against the 3080

I really enjoy the RX 6800 XT my current card is the third model I owned since launch.
1. MSI Gaming X
2. Reference
3. Red Devil

I wish I own a Sapphire Nitro too but I haven't been able to get my hands on one but if I am going Sapphire again it's going to be 7900 XT/XTX if I have the money but I don't at the moment sadly

 

[Nostras]

AMD marketing is something else - it starts to push for 16GB and ridicule competitors with 8GB - right in time when about to release its 7xxx with 8GB

Are you daft? Do you understand what AMD was trying to say?
Here's a hint, pricing matters.
For a 7600 card below 300$ 8GB is fine and does not invalidate their statements or make "AMD marketing is something else".
Sometimes I question the intelligence of some people.

Sad thing is that this signals that AMD won't be releasing anything near the same performance level as the 6800 any time soon.

 

[mb194dc]

RTX 3070 is Nvidia's best seller? So that's why they probably do such a comparison.

 

[Bomby569]

RTX 3070 is Nvidia's best seller? So that's why they probably do such a comparison.

**60 is always the answer to that question

 

[Dirt Chip]

"32 games across RT and raster"
One might be wrong to think that AMD is on average 13% faster with RT-on across large set of titles (that many of them don`t have RT at all...).
So pathetically illustrated. I don`t even pay attention to the probably specifically selected titles, unless those are the top 32 playable\currently selling games at steam or something like that- which I doubted.
Also, they kind of playing a 2 years game as 6000 and 3000 gen are quite over now.

The real shame thing is that they really do have good product to show off, but choose a misleading and statistical-trick-style (aka PR) way to convey it.
It is up to 31% faster at some titles and in the same time up to 9% slower* in other titles on raster. With RT-on they up to 30% slower*, no win in that front so practically they are both 31-30% faster and slower at the same time.
*TPU 144P data

Why do they enter the RT dungeon?
Why not just stick to "13% faster on average with double the memory at the same cost" and maybe add at a lower power consumption (if they must, I would avoid it). So much better that this highly inaccurate data that above all put them in bad light imo.

 

[ixi]

Emm

AMDepression, I mean AMD marketing working in mysterious ways. At launch RX 6800 compete against RTX 3080, end of life RX 6800 vs RTX 3070, 10 years from now legacy review RX 6800 vs RTX 3050.

Emm, are you sure about comparison, source? Somehow I do remember like this.

6800 = 3070
6800 xt = 3080

 

[tvshacker]

In Portugal, for a long time, the 3070 was more expensive than the 6800, but since last week or so that situation has reversed.
Maybe this is happening on several territories and AMD cannot lower the 6800 price any more, and that's where this marketing piece comes in.

 

[Crackong]

lol they really need to put someone else on the marketing
This one is so lame.

 

[BoboOOZ]

Emm

Emm, are you sure about comparison, source? Somehow I do remember like this.

6800 = 3070
6800 xt = 3080

I'd say, more precisely, that the 6800 was competing with the 3070Ti at launch, but the 3070Ti didn't exist yet, so reviewers compared it to the 3080.

 

[SL2]

Not really, the RX6800 was shown at launch against the RTX2080Ti, which is about 3070 level.

The RX6800XT was put against the 3080

Yet somehow he managed to turn the drop in price into something bad..

Even when AMD is lowering the price some people thinks it's wrong!

High prices: "They're greedy!"
Prices lowered: "Oh, they're trying to sell more = greed!"

 

[Bomby569]

Yet somehow he managed to turn the drop in price into something bad..

Even when AMD is lowering the price some people thinks it's wrong!

High prices: "They're greedy!"
Prices lowered: "Oh, they're trying to sell more = greed!"

You do know prices dropped because they aren't selling, not because they like you to have more money, right? and they aren't selling because they are terrible value.

 

[Dr. Dro]

Why do they enter the RT dungeon?
Why not just stick to "13% faster on average with double the memory at the same cost" and maybe add at a lower power consumption (if they must, I would avoid it). So much better that this highly inaccurate data that above all put them in bad light imo.

Because that'd be potentially even more dishonest, even phone SoCs are pushing ray tracing. Just look at the Mediatek PR just posted on the site now. It's the future of graphics, and AMD must be ready for it, even if brand loyalists are all too happy to deny it.

Their most important segment is a no show and the halo practically flopped, so they're propping up their existing product line. And we all know what RDNA 2's RT capabilities are like; and that is: shoddy.

Yet somehow he managed to turn the drop in price into something bad..

Even when AMD is lowering the price some people thinks it's wrong!

High prices: "They're greedy!"
Prices lowered: "Oh, they're trying to sell more = greed!"

I can't see overstock clearance at near MSRP levels for 3 year old hardware as a generous or charitable act. Not to mention most RX 6800 stock has exhausted at this point, considered it is a low quality Navi 21 with 25% of the processor fused off. AMD makes the other cards and those that are no good become 6800s... After making them for so long, after multiple steppings and chip revisions, yields must be pretty good which in turn means less 6800 quality dies. Much less.

It's pointless marketing they deserve no praise for.

 

[Daven]

AMD marketing is something else - it starts to push for 16GB and ridicule competitors with 8GB - right in time when about to release its 7xxx with 8GB

AMD is not saying all GPUs across the stack should have 16 GB. They are saying Radeons at similar price points have more memory than Geforces. That VRAM happens to be in the 16 GB range. Where did some of you get that AMD was planning 16 GBs across all parts and now is changing their minds?

 

[david salsero]

No need for $500 and $1000 charts anymore
What Everyone wants is an ultrabook with AMD ZEN 4 7040 Phoenix= LPDDR5 + RDNA 3 + USB 4.0 + HDMI 2.1 + artificial intelligence with XDNA architecture developed by Xilinx and all at 4nm vs 10nm from Intel.
With RDNA 3 + FidelityFX Super Resolution 3.0 you can play AAA Games and render 3D and videos, no need for graphics that consume and reduce performance.
Where are the OEMs that do not bet on the best processor for laptops AMD ZEN 4 7040 Phoenix. Where ????

 

[SL2]

You do know prices dropped because they aren't selling, not because they like you to have more money, right? and they aren't selling because they are terrible value.

What a weird comment.

I can't see overstock clearance at near MSRP levels for 3 year old hardware as a generous or charitable act.

No one said it was, but unlike the one I was talking about I don't think it's a bad thing. Either way, I'm not going to buy one.