OpenAI Considers Exit From Europe - Faces Planned Legislation from Regulators

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OpenAI's CEO, Sam Altman, is currently exploring the UK and Europe on a PR-related "mini" world tour, and protesters have been following these proceedings with much interest. UK news outlets have reported that a demonstration took place outside of a university building in London yesterday, where the UCL Events organization hosted Altman as part of a fireside discussion about the benefits and problems relating to advanced AI systems. Attendees noted that Altman expressed optimism about AI's potential for the creation of more jobs and reduction in inequality - despite calls for a major pause on development. He also visited 10 Downing Street during the British leg of his PR journey - alongside other AI company leaders - to talk about potential risks (originating from his industry) with the UK's prime minister. Discussed topics were reported to include national security, existential threats and disinformation.

At the UCL event, Altman touched upon his recent meetings with European regulators, who are developing plans for advanced legislation that could lead to targeted laws (applicable to AI industries). He says that his company is "gonna try to comply" with these potential new rules and agrees that some form of regulation is necessary: "something between the traditional European approach and the traditional US approach" would be preferred. He took issue with the potential branding of large AI models (such as OpenAI's ChatGPT and GPT-4 applications) as "high risk" ventures via the European Union's AI Act provisions: "Either we'll be able to solve those requirements or not...If we can comply, we will, and if we can't, we'll cease operating… We will try. But there are technical limits to what's possible."



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[Nostras]

Ok bye.

 

[Space Lynx]

chat gpt is so overrated, it doesn't get half of the shit I ask it right, so I am not worried about my students using it personally.

 

[TumbleGeorge]

chat gpt is so overrated, it doesn't get half of the shit I ask it right, so I am not worried about my students using it personally.

You should be worried.

 

[Space Lynx]

You should be worried.

never understimate the power of empiricism lad.

 

[TumbleGeorge]

never understimate the power of empiricism lad.

I'd rather worry in time than when I find my students on the obituary pages.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

Good. Between his open crypto scam stealing people bio data and his pushes to legislate chatGPT as the only AI, its obvious that Sam Altman is another Sam Bankman, and shouldnt be trusted. Well, nobody that is partnered with and gets funding from MicroShaft should be trusted, but you get my point.

I'd rather worry in time than when I find my students on the obituary pages.

Paranoia is no fun. You should see a therapist.

 

[Easo]

This won't stop what is already happening. But there clearly will be some attempts at regulation.

Good. Between his open crypto scam stealing people bio data and his pushes to legislate chatGPT as the only AI, its obvious that Sam Altman is another Sam Bankman, and shouldnt be trusted. Well, nobody that is partnered with and gets funding from MicroShaft should be trusted, but you get my point.

Paranoia is no fun. You should see a therapist.

It's also really hard to take anyone seriously who uses words like "MicroShaft".

 

[HisDivineOrder]

At least somebody is taking the ChatGPT thing seriously. This is going to upend entire industries and traditional job roles whether the technology is actually ready or not. It needs the brakes pumped.

 

[dir_d]

At least somebody is taking the ChatGPT thing seriously. This is going to upend entire industries and traditional job roles whether the technology is actually ready or not. It needs the brakes pumped.

I doubt that, its only as good as its dataset and at most ChatGTP will be is an AI troll with how much misinformation is out there. It will speed up some functions in day to day life but will still need to be overseen by humans for a while. Now if for some reason the internet magically got rid of false information then, yes, it would be damn right scary.

 

[R-T-B]

I doubt that, its only as good as its dataset and at most ChatGTP will be is an AI troll with how much misinformation is out there. It will speed up some functions in day to day life but will still need to be overseen by humans for a while. Now if for some reason the internet magically got rid of false information then, yes, it would be damn right scary.

It's damn scary just because of the misinformation potential alone.

That, and AI generated spam. Ooh, fun.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

This won't stop what is already happening. But there clearly will be some attempts at regulation.


It's also really hard to take anyone seriously who uses words like "MicroShaft".

*neeerrrr* Actshually I cant take you sherioushly unlesh you ushe proper namesh *neeerrrr*

It's damn scary just because of the misinformation potential alone.

That, and AI generated spam. Ooh, fun.

I doubt that, its only as good as its dataset and at most ChatGTP will be is an AI troll with how much misinformation is out there. It will speed up some functions in day to day life but will still need to be overseen by humans for a while. Now if for some reason the internet magically got rid of false information then, yes, it would be damn right scary.

Man you guys clutch that pearl any harder and it'll shatter.

 

[lexluthermiester]

It's damn scary just because of the misinformation potential alone.

This. I'm not worried about AI taking over our police, military's and weapons, it's the disinformation that has the potential for complete yet structured chaos. We've gone too far. Skynet is becoming a more likely possibility every day...

 

[DrCR]

This. I'm not worried about AI taking over our police, military's and weapons, it's the disinformation that has the potential for complete yet structured chaos. We've gone too far. Skynet is becoming a more likely possibility every day...

We the people already vote in puppets. It’s just choose a flavour.

 

[R-T-B]

Man you guys clutch that pearl any harder and it'll shatter.

I guess you like spam? Spam and disinformation, it's part of a complete breakfast!

unlesh you ushe proper namesh *neeerrrr*

If you like being taken seriously, yeah. It's basically a neckbeard stereotype to use childish insults like that, it's not like I'm calling you out for mispronouncing an anime character, this is just the way people communicate.

 

[Vayra86]

Paranoia is no fun. You should see a therapist.

Well, about that...

Kids’ mental health is in crisis. Here’s what psychologists are doing to help

Research is focused on child and teen mental health, exploring why they are struggling and what can be done to help them

www.apa.org

We should be connecting the dots here. AI is the next step, the current mental health crisis however is increasingly caused by technology and consumerism related to technology. We went from mobile phone to social media and it has been a terrible blow to society and mental health. AI takes it a few steps further, and is non-transparent about how it gets there.

 

[Tahagomizer]

Europe really is trying to legislate itself into oblivion and become a museum. It's a similar situation to Project Manhattan - If USA didn't develop and drop the A-bombs, Germans would, at some point, figure it out and do it themselves. Or ruskies, which would have been even worse. If Europe cripples AI research and usage, it will fall behind the rest of the world even more than it does now. In a decade or two there will be no serious research and development done without AI being used in some capacity. Hell, it's nothing new, many advanced circuits are designed with machine learning tools for years if not decades now.

 

[Wye]

This new sorcery called steam engine spells doom on the humans. Doom I tell you! The machines will steal our jobs and our souls. I beg you to put a stop to them now before it is too late, before our kids will suffer.

Oh wait, it is not 1712? It does seem the history is repeating.

 

[Deleted member 185088]

chat gpt is so overrated, it doesn't get half of the shit I ask it right, so I am not worried about my students using it personally.

It's very good when used properly.

 

[Space Lynx]

It's very good when used properly.

not having developed its knowledge through empiricism gives it inherent weakness, which shows at the advanced level of questions I throw at it, useless database

 

[Deleted member 229121]

This. I'm not worried about AI taking over our police, military's and weapons, it's the disinformation that has the potential for complete yet structured chaos. We've gone too far. Skynet is becoming a more likely possibility every day...

Disinformation needs a good hard look and re-evaluation at the Federal level within the US.
I get freedom of speech, but purposefully disseminating disinformation is dangerous and should have consequences.

Opinions are always debatable, but facts never should be.

 

[Space Lynx]

Opinions are always debatable, but facts never should be.

Can you give me a single fact that is irrefutable to your knowledge?

 

[Deleted member 229121]

I'm speaking about current events specifically within the country that should be considered general fact, but it's fine line without getting all political.
I'll just stop because the premise of that is a bit too intrinsic in nature.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I get freedom of speech, but purposefully disseminating disinformation is dangerous and should have consequences.

This already exists in legal code. Companies and persons of influence can face civil and even criminal troubles if they deliberately state false or misleading information. For example, Shaq and the like facing legal troubles for the involvement in those cryptocoin scandals.

Opinions are always debatable, but facts never should be.

Fully agree!

Can you give me a single fact that is irrefutable to your knowledge?

I can give you many. Example:

Fact.
The Sun emits light and matter every moment of every day.

Fact:
The substance commonly known as "Water" is comprised of molecules which contain the elements Hydrogen and Oxygen.

Fact:
An atom of Hydrogen contains only one Electron and can not be made to carry two Electrons.

See how easy that is?

 

[Space Lynx]

This already exists in legal code. Companies and persons of influence can face civil and even criminal troubles if they deliberately state false or misleading information. For example, Shaq and the like facing legal troubles for the involvement in those cryptocoin scandals.


Fully agree!


I can give you many. Example:

Fact.
The Sun emits light and matter every moment of every day.

Fact:
The substance commonly known as "Water" is comprised of molecules which contain the elements Hydrogen and Oxygen.

Fact:
An atom of Hydrogen contains only one Electron and can not be made to carry two Electrons.

See how easy that is?

well I 100% agree with you those are facts, however, I know a cynic philosopher might come back and say


1. light? that is percieved by our eyes with our species, technically speaking it could appear as darkness being emitted to some species - depending how their empirical relationship is with the world around them. light is a word by the English language, what is light? can you explain it? why is it so wonderful? why is the Sun the life source for everything, but the only way we can describe it is fusion reactions? surely it is more than just the sum of its parts, when we study the Cosmos fully?

2. I'm not sure wha a cynic philosopher in ancient times would say to you hear, perhaps they would ask if there is an infinite regress problem with breaking down water into anything more than its whole, for example, how do you know there is not something that makes up hydroge, and oxygen, how small can you go? what if it is infinite, so now its just a problem of etymology.

3. I would use the same argument as number 2 for the elctron atom, perhaps humans lack the understanding to see the bigger picture of why the electron is so special in the Cosmos, the more lenses we see the Cosmos through the more we understand, perhaps there are still lenses we have not looked though, so perhaps this is true for now, but not in the future.


FYI, I AGREE WITH YOU, i just am playing devils advocate based on my study of phenomenology, a sub-field of philosophy... mixed in with some ancient cynic philoosphy (cynics of ancient times means something different than the word now just side note)